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HD Radio/IBOC will fail - VERY few are buying HD radios, and the FCC
has not authorized IBOC for nighttime AM, so nothing to worry about,
yet. If you want to learn more visit:


IBOC DXing is rather fun. A real kick picking up an AM station broadcasting
IBOC at a small fraction of power relative to the analog main carrier in
digital sound. Having a DX station's call-sign displayed for instant
station verification is pure bliss.

So far my best IBOC dx catch with "instant verification" was about 500 miles
via grayline one morning. Keep in mind that until the analog broadcast
signal is turned off, the IBOC signal is transmitted at a small fraction of
the power that the main analog signal is broadcast. So any IBOC DX catch
made right now is indeed a remarkable feat. The night that AM stations
broadcast in 100% IBOC only with full legal power will really be fun.

There are a few AM IBOC stations that broadcast about an hour or so before
and after their local sunrise/sunset.

IBOC/digital DXing is no different than DXing other digital modes like CW,
RTTY, HDTV, etc... All the whiners are just concerned that they will have
to retire their analog R8 receivers along with their analog TV's to the
museum. Hopefully, the IBOC decoder software will be made available in the
future for free and in the public domain. That would make IBOC available
for decoding on any receiver using a computer. Imagine the possibilities
with a software defined radio such as the SDR-1000.


Don't listen to this piece-of-**** ! HD Radio/IBOC has only 60% the
coverage of analog and causes adjacent-channel interference. To learn
more, go to:

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....ard,194.0.html

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Don't listen to this piece-of-****.

IBOC is currently transmitted at 1/100th (one/one hundredth) of the power of
the main analog carrier.
At that 1/100th power level it is covering 60% of the analog carrier -
INCREDIBLE!!!!

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del.icio.us wrote:
wrote

HD Radio/IBOC will fail - VERY few are buying HD radios, and the FCC
has not authorized IBOC for nighttime AM, so nothing to worry about,
yet. If you want to learn more visit:


IBOC DXing is rather fun. A real kick picking up an AM station

broadcasting
IBOC at a small fraction of power relative to the analog main carrier in
digital sound. Having a DX station's call-sign displayed for instant
station verification is pure bliss.

So far my best IBOC dx catch with "instant verification" was about 500

miles
via grayline one morning. Keep in mind that until the analog broadcast
signal is turned off, the IBOC signal is transmitted at a small fraction

of
the power that the main analog signal is broadcast. So any IBOC DX

catch
made right now is indeed a remarkable feat. The night that AM stations
broadcast in 100% IBOC only with full legal power will really be fun.

There are a few AM IBOC stations that broadcast about an hour or so

before
and after their local sunrise/sunset.

IBOC/digital DXing is no different than DXing other digital modes like

CW,
RTTY, HDTV, etc... All the whiners are just concerned that they will

have
to retire their analog R8 receivers along with their analog TV's to the
museum. Hopefully, the IBOC decoder software will be made available in

the
future for free and in the public domain. That would make IBOC

available
for decoding on any receiver using a computer. Imagine the

possibilities
with a software defined radio such as the SDR-1000.


Don't listen to this piece-of-**** ! HD Radio/IBOC has only 60% the
coverage of analog and causes adjacent-channel interference. To learn
more, go to:

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....ard,194.0.html



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del.icio.us wrote:
Don't listen to this piece-of-****.

IBOC is currently transmitted at 1/100th (one/one hundredth) of the power of
the main analog carrier.
At that 1/100th power level it is covering 60% of the analog carrier -
INCREDIBLE!!!!

wrote in message
oups.com...

del.icio.us wrote:
wrote

HD Radio/IBOC will fail - VERY few are buying HD radios, and the FCC
has not authorized IBOC for nighttime AM, so nothing to worry about,
yet. If you want to learn more visit:


IBOC DXing is rather fun. A real kick picking up an AM station

broadcasting
IBOC at a small fraction of power relative to the analog main carrier in
digital sound. Having a DX station's call-sign displayed for instant
station verification is pure bliss.

So far my best IBOC dx catch with "instant verification" was about 500

miles
via grayline one morning. Keep in mind that until the analog broadcast
signal is turned off, the IBOC signal is transmitted at a small fraction

of
the power that the main analog signal is broadcast. So any IBOC DX

catch
made right now is indeed a remarkable feat. The night that AM stations
broadcast in 100% IBOC only with full legal power will really be fun.

There are a few AM IBOC stations that broadcast about an hour or so

before
and after their local sunrise/sunset.

IBOC/digital DXing is no different than DXing other digital modes like

CW,
RTTY, HDTV, etc... All the whiners are just concerned that they will

have
to retire their analog R8 receivers along with their analog TV's to the
museum. Hopefully, the IBOC decoder software will be made available in

the
future for free and in the public domain. That would make IBOC

available
for decoding on any receiver using a computer. Imagine the

possibilities
with a software defined radio such as the SDR-1000.


Don't listen to this piece-of-**** ! HD Radio/IBOC has only 60% the
coverage of analog and causes adjacent-channel interference. To learn
more, go to:

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....ard,194.0.html


And, causing adjacent-channel interference - HD Radio/IBOC will fail.
Crutchfield is already getting out of the HD Radio business - other to
follow !

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del.icio.us wrote:
Don't listen to this piece-of-****.

IBOC is currently transmitted at 1/100th (one/one hundredth) of the power of
the main analog carrier.
At that 1/100th power level it is covering 60% of the analog carrier -
INCREDIBLE!!!!

wrote in message
oups.com...

del.icio.us wrote:
wrote

HD Radio/IBOC will fail - VERY few are buying HD radios, and the FCC
has not authorized IBOC for nighttime AM, so nothing to worry about,
yet. If you want to learn more visit:


IBOC DXing is rather fun. A real kick picking up an AM station

broadcasting
IBOC at a small fraction of power relative to the analog main carrier in
digital sound. Having a DX station's call-sign displayed for instant
station verification is pure bliss.

So far my best IBOC dx catch with "instant verification" was about 500

miles
via grayline one morning. Keep in mind that until the analog broadcast
signal is turned off, the IBOC signal is transmitted at a small fraction

of
the power that the main analog signal is broadcast. So any IBOC DX

catch
made right now is indeed a remarkable feat. The night that AM stations
broadcast in 100% IBOC only with full legal power will really be fun.

There are a few AM IBOC stations that broadcast about an hour or so

before
and after their local sunrise/sunset.

IBOC/digital DXing is no different than DXing other digital modes like

CW,
RTTY, HDTV, etc... All the whiners are just concerned that they will

have
to retire their analog R8 receivers along with their analog TV's to the
museum. Hopefully, the IBOC decoder software will be made available in

the
future for free and in the public domain. That would make IBOC

available
for decoding on any receiver using a computer. Imagine the

possibilities
with a software defined radio such as the SDR-1000.


Don't listen to this piece-of-**** ! HD Radio/IBOC has only 60% the
coverage of analog and causes adjacent-channel interference. To learn
more, go to:

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....ard,194.0.html


And, causing adjacent-channel interference - HD Radio/IBOC will fail.
Crutchfield is already getting out of the HD Radio business - others to
follow !

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del.icio.us wrote:
Don't listen to this piece-of-****.

IBOC is currently transmitted at 1/100th (one/one hundredth) of the power of
the main analog carrier.
At that 1/100th power level it is covering 60% of the analog carrier -
INCREDIBLE!!!!

wrote in message
oups.com...

del.icio.us wrote:
wrote

HD Radio/IBOC will fail - VERY few are buying HD radios, and the FCC
has not authorized IBOC for nighttime AM, so nothing to worry about,
yet. If you want to learn more visit:


IBOC DXing is rather fun. A real kick picking up an AM station

broadcasting
IBOC at a small fraction of power relative to the analog main carrier in
digital sound. Having a DX station's call-sign displayed for instant
station verification is pure bliss.

So far my best IBOC dx catch with "instant verification" was about 500

miles
via grayline one morning. Keep in mind that until the analog broadcast
signal is turned off, the IBOC signal is transmitted at a small fraction

of
the power that the main analog signal is broadcast. So any IBOC DX

catch
made right now is indeed a remarkable feat. The night that AM stations
broadcast in 100% IBOC only with full legal power will really be fun.

There are a few AM IBOC stations that broadcast about an hour or so

before
and after their local sunrise/sunset.

IBOC/digital DXing is no different than DXing other digital modes like

CW,
RTTY, HDTV, etc... All the whiners are just concerned that they will

have
to retire their analog R8 receivers along with their analog TV's to the
museum. Hopefully, the IBOC decoder software will be made available in

the
future for free and in the public domain. That would make IBOC

available
for decoding on any receiver using a computer. Imagine the

possibilities
with a software defined radio such as the SDR-1000.


Don't listen to this piece-of-**** ! HD Radio/IBOC has only 60% the
coverage of analog and causes adjacent-channel interference. To learn
more, go to:

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....ard,194.0.html


And, causing adjacent-channel interference - HD Radio/IBOC will fail.
Crutchfield is already getting out of the HD Radio business - others to
follow !



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"Tester" wrote in message
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I notice that a number of stores have BUY BUY BUY THEY MAKE GREAT XMAS
GIFTS AND YOU DON'T GET A MONTHLY BILL FROM SIRIUS OR XM! ads for HD
Radio receivers. So once there is a reasonable per centage of HD
receivers will MW DX be a viable hobby? Will anyone outside the local
area be able to get radio stations 10 kHz away if they live anywhere
near an HD xmtr?


I think the FCC probably would approve nighttime IBOC-AM transmissions if
the radios somehow become popular. However, I doubt the radios will ever
sell well until they cost little more than standard radios and there's an
IBOC portable that's easy on batteries.

Frank Dresser


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They don't allow HD on AM after sunset.. That should help


"Tester" wrote in message
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I notice that a number of stores have BUY BUY BUY THEY MAKE GREAT XMAS
GIFTS AND YOU DON'T GET A MONTHLY BILL FROM SIRIUS OR XM! ads for HD
Radio receivers. So once there is a reasonable per centage of HD
receivers will MW DX be a viable hobby? Will anyone outside the local
area be able to get radio stations 10 kHz away if they live anywhere
near an HD xmtr?

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"Steve Stone" wrote in message
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They don't allow HD on AM after sunset.. That should help


They will, eventually. The real issue is that nearly nobody listens to AM at
night, anyway.


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David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve Stone" wrote in message
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They don't allow HD on AM after sunset.. That should help


They will, eventually. The real issue is that nearly nobody listens to AM at
night, anyway.


The FCC will never allow IBOC at night - there are too many
interference problems, and IBOC will fail anyway.

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The FCC will never allow IBOC at night - there are too many
interference problems



How can that be when 1/100th of the power transmitted is IBOC and it only
has a 60% coverage area?
Are you Al Gore's brother?

When analog disapears, and it will, your analog radio will be a museum peice
and your so called interference will be solved.




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