What's the cheapest prices for them E1's nowdays? I might be interested.
cuhulin

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What's the cheapest prices for them E1's nowdays? I might be interested.
cuhulin

I looked around and found it at $479.00 at http://www.radioworld.ca/

Everyone else seemed to want $500.00

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
...
Everyone else seemed to want $500.00


All these radios are being made and most likely designed overseas.

In the software industry, foreign engineers can be had for $10,000 USD a
year or less and they think that is a good wage in their country.
Factory workers in china consider $3.00 USD a day a good wage.

Now, when they take this cheap chit, chuck it in a plastic case and
build it in a way where it is lucky to escape its first fall on a hard
surface ... over $100.00 USD and I would tell 'em to keep it.

I don't think the youngsters know any different, they were born during
the time throw-away-junk was becoming all which is obtainable.

Now don't get me wrong, I have a nice receiver, a boat anchor from a
bygone day. The rest is just cheap plastic chit

I doubt if you can find any radio which is still manufactured in the
USA--toss the boards into cases and claim "assembled in the usa" or some
such nonsense though ...

Regards,
JS

In article ,
John Smith I wrote:

Telamon wrote:
...
Everyone else seemed to want $500.00


All these radios are being made and most likely designed overseas.

In the software industry, foreign engineers can be had for $10,000 USD a
year or less and they think that is a good wage in their country.
Factory workers in china consider $3.00 USD a day a good wage.

Now, when they take this cheap chit, chuck it in a plastic case and
build it in a way where it is lucky to escape its first fall on a hard
surface ... over $100.00 USD and I would tell 'em to keep it.

I don't think the youngsters know any different, they were born during
the time throw-away-junk was becoming all which is obtainable.

Now don't get me wrong, I have a nice receiver, a boat anchor from a
bygone day. The rest is just cheap plastic chit

I doubt if you can find any radio which is still manufactured in the
USA--toss the boards into cases and claim "assembled in the usa" or some
such nonsense though ...

Well, there was the Drake R8B made in the USA. Now it is just Ten-Tec.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

DoN.

So does your Car Radio have a built-in Ferrite Rod
Antenna for AM/MW Reception - - - NO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ETON-E...o/message/3758
- - - But many AM/MW Radio Listener's wish that their
home radios could receive the AM/MW Band as well
as their Car Radios.

While a Whip Antenna used for AM/MW Radio reception
lacks the directional characteristics of a AM/MW Ferrite
Rod Antenna : When fully extended a Whip Antenna can
have a Greater Signal Capture Area then Ferrite Rod Antenna.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources...1XM_US_693.pdf

A Whip Antenna with the proper Matching Circuit for AM/MW
Radio Reception an be a very good Antenna for a portable
AM/FM Shortwave Radio.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources...1XM_US_693.pdf

IIRC - The Eton's built-in Whip Antenna can function as
an Active Antenna for both Shortwave and AM/MW Radio.
The "DX" Control {Antenna RF Signal Amplifier} can be
used with the Whip Antenna for better AM/MW Reception.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources...1XM_US_693.pdf

The Whip Antenna can be fully extended and layed down
Flat {Horizontal} and then Rotated to help improve it's
directionality to Peak and Null an AM/MW Radio signal.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources...1XM_US_693.pdf

While the Eton E1 Radio does not have a built-in Ferrite Rod
Antenna. Its AM/MW performance Off-the-Whip is every-bit
as good {if not better then} as the Sangean ATS-909, Sony
ICF-SW7600GR and Grundig 4000A radios using just their
built-in Ferrite Rod Antennas. It may fall behind the GE
Superadios; Grundig S350; Redsun RP2100 and CC Radio
but each of them has large Ferrite Rod Antennas that are
usually not found in most 'portable' AM/MW Shortwave
Radios.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources...1XM_US_693.pdf

Don't short-change the Eton E1 Radio : It has very good
AM/MW Radio reception using the Whip Antenna.
http://www.etoncorp.com/US/resources...1XM_US_693.pdf


yes - it's all in the owner's manual - e1-ing you all ~ RHF

On Dec 30, 3:58 pm, wrote:
dead of night wrote:
Hi I remember reading in the radiointel review that the E1 does not
have a built- in ferrite AM antenna. However, I've read in this group
that the E1 uses the whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car
radio. Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without an
optional external antenna?Absolutely unbelievable, for a radio in this price class without an
internal ferrite-bar antenna, and without a Satellite Radio antenna,
too ! God, pay $400 - $500 for another Eaton **** receiver,
- with a plastic housing
- and cheap plastic knobs,
and add on another $100 for
the extra antennas ! Jesus !

Plastic ! - Did You Say Plastic ? ~ RHF

On 31 Dec 2006 01:23:12 -0800, "RHF"
wrote:



On Dec 30, 3:58 pm, wrote:
dead of night wrote:
Hi I remember reading in the radiointel review that the E1 does not
have a built- in ferrite AM antenna. However, I've read in this group
that the E1 uses the whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car
radio. Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without an
optional external antenna?Absolutely unbelievable, for a radio in this price class without an
internal ferrite-bar antenna, and without a Satellite Radio antenna,
too ! God, pay $400 - $500 for another Eaton **** receiver,
- with a plastic housing
- and cheap plastic knobs,
and add on another $100 for
the extra antennas ! Jesus !

Plastic ! - Did You Say Plastic ? ~ RHF
.
.
. .
The Eton cases are very nice plastic.

BTW, my $1,300 Drake has no ferrite bar nor shiny telescoping whip;
did I get ripped off?

On Dec 31, 5:47 am, David wrote:
On 31 Dec 2006 01:23:12 -0800, "RHF"
wrote:







On Dec 30, 3:58 pm, wrote:
dead of night wrote:
Hi I remember reading in the radiointel review that the E1 does not
have a built- in ferrite AM antenna. However, I've read in this group
that the E1 uses the whip antenna for AM reception, much like a car
radio. Is this true? How is the MW reception on the E1 without an
optional external antenna?Absolutely unbelievable, for a radio in this price class without an
internal ferrite-bar antenna, and without a Satellite Radio antenna,
too ! God, pay $400 - $500 for another Eaton **** receiver,
- with a plastic housing
- and cheap plastic knobs,
and add on another $100 for
the extra antennas ! Jesus !

Plastic ! - Did You Say Plastic ? ~ RHF
.
.
. .The Eton cases are very nice plastic.


- BTW, my $1,300 Drake has no ferrite bar
- nor shiny telescoping whip; did I get ripped off?

David - Maybe they need a Product Recall . . . ) ~ RHF

Eton E1 Radio -and- The "Green" Antenna for AM/MW Radio Reception
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw.../message/11921

WAS - Is It True The Eton E1 Radio Uses The Whip
For An AM Antenna ?

- - So for AM work, one should plan on using
- - an external AM loop with the E1.
-
- Someone should produce an external MW ferrite rod
- accessory antenna for the E1. It could be mounted
- on top of the case and would rotate like the
- ferrite rod on the Panasonic RF-2200.
-
- The signal output of the rod would connect to one
- of the external antenna inputs of the E1 with
- proper impedance matching, if necessary.
-

SG - They have one it is called the "Green" Antenna ~ RHF
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On Jan 1, 10:42 am, Stephan Grossklass
wrote:
As I understand it, the E1 is still quite closely related to the Drake
SW8 and thus the Sat 800 when it comes to the internals. The SW8 did not
feature any internal antennas and was to be used with external ones.
Then the Sat 800 had a ferrite antenna, and folks promptly complained
about a multitude of strong birdies on MW (I guess the receiving
sections are decently shielded but the microprocessor and stuff are not,
which didn't matter in the original design). Now much the same
electronics are inside the E1, and people are complaining that it
doesn't have a ferrite antenna...
That a top-notch portable like this should normally have one (of a
considerable length nonetheless) is another matter - electrical antennas
are just about useless when the least bit of nearby RFI is present. So
for AM work, one should plan on using an external AM loop with the E1.

Oh, and it's true that RDS for FM wouldn't have hurt either (a real
Grundig would have had it) - we have a 15 EUR kitchen radio featuring
RDS including CT, so it's not like the chips would be terribly expensive
or anything (apparently there's a Rohm BU1923 inside that one).

Stephan
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