"policy-ham" wrote in message
oups.com...
Found on qrz.com. The ARRL now only wants only no code hams. And as
for the rest of us?

Not true what you say about the ARRL. Amateur radio is only as good as the
effort you put into it. If you can't do code, you cannot communicate with a
huge subset of the amateur population. That is a fact. You never will be
able to so until your learn code, FCC requirement or no FCC requirement.
There is some DX you will never get, some countries you may never contact,
many people you will never meet.

Some no-coders sound like the gay rights lobby: They seem to be trying to
make no-code the "norm". "I want you to think I am normal". "I am as just
good as you, I can do HF now, I can be a real 'Ham'". (Gays can get
"married"). True by regulation, but not really in practice.

In the foreseeable future you will never truly be a ham until you can QSO in
code; you will only hold a piece of paper authorizing you to communicate on
HF. Don't shoot the messanger. Don't bother disagreeing with me; it is the
large subset of the amateur base that you have to convince and,
unfortunately, that will take a while to change IF it ever does change. When
people are sick of SSB QRM or we cannot QSO by voice due to conditions, we
can simply move to the CW sub-bands and you are left "holding the mike".

As Walter Cronkite used to say. "That's the way it is..." February 23, 2007.

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:35:46 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe"
wrote:

Don't bother disagreeing with me; it is the
large subset of the amateur base that you have to convince and,
unfortunately, that will take a while to change IF it ever does change.

And when you're all dead, nobody will remember you, or if they do
they'll laugh their asses off.

On 12 Feb 2007 16:29:18 -0800, "
wrote in
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On Feb 12, 2:35?pm, robert casey wrote:
NEWINGTON, CT, Feb 9, 2007 -- As new Amateur Radio Service rules phase
in Friday, February 23,

You realize that the 23rd, when you divide 2 by 3, you'll get 666, the
devil's area code? Sounds like a bad omen to me.... :-)

Sorry, that is a SERIOUS FACTUAL ERROR!!!

Dividing 2 by 3 results in the decimal fraction 0.66666666666666...

That is NOT the Bible's reference to "the number of the beast."


The number of the beast is 616, not 666.

On 2007-02-11 16:45:13 -0500, "policy-ham" said:

Found on qrz.com. The ARRL now only wants only no code hams. And as
for the rest of us?


???

Get over it already and move on. They ARE doing code too or can't you read?

Code is still used but it is not relevant today in testing any more.
GET OVER IT. MOVE ON. No one is stopping you from USING CW. USE IT IF
YOU WANT.

"Jim Shaffer" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:35:46 -0500, "Stefan Wolfe"
wrote:

Don't bother disagreeing with me; it is the
large subset of the amateur base that you have to convince and,
unfortunately, that will take a while to change IF it ever does change.

And when you're all dead, nobody will remember you, or if they do
they'll laugh their asses off.

So you depend upon some sort of massive die-off to validate your license
class?

On Feb 12, 7:29 pm, "
wrote:
On Feb 12, 2:35?pm, robert casey wrote:

NEWINGTON, CT, Feb 9, 2007 -- As new Amateur Radio Service rules phase
in Friday, February 23,

You realize that the 23rd, when you divide 2 by 3, you'll get 666, the
devil's area code? ? Sounds like a bad omen to me.... ? ?:-)

Sorry, that is a SERIOUS FACTUAL ERROR!!!

Dividing 2 by 3 results in the decimal fraction 0.66666666666666...

That is NOT the Bible's reference to "the number of the beast."



The difference is 665.33333333333333334. Way, way off. Completely
wrong. A Factual Error!

On Feb 12, 8:03 pm, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
On 12 Feb 2007 16:29:18 -0800, "
wrote in
.com:

On Feb 12, 2:35?pm, robert casey wrote:
NEWINGTON, CT, Feb 9, 2007 -- As new Amateur Radio Service rules phase
in Friday, February 23,

You realize that the 23rd, when you divide 2 by 3, you'll get 666, the
devil's area code? Sounds like a bad omen to me.... :-)

Sorry, that is a SERIOUS FACTUAL ERROR!!!

Dividing 2 by 3 results in the decimal fraction 0.66666666666666...

That is NOT the Bible's reference to "the number of the beast."

The number of the beast is 616, not 666.

Frank, welcome back.

BTW, what is the mark of his little red-hatted monkey?

On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:38:05 GMT, helmsman
wrote:

+++On 11 Feb 2007 13:45:13 -0800, "policy-ham"
+++wrote:
+++
+++Found on qrz.com. The ARRL now only wants only no code hams. And as
+++for the rest of us?
+++
+++I'm an ARRL member and I haven't gotten an email canceling my
+++membership. If they dumped all us coders they'er membership would go
+++down to almost zero. It ain't gonna happen. The ARRL welcomes
+++everyone.
+++KG8PM
**********

Yep as long as you send in your money every year they don't care.

james

On 12 Feb 2007 21:28:11 -0800, "
wrote:

+++On Feb 12, 4:35?pm, "Stefan Wolfe" wrote:
+++ "policy-ham" wrote in message
+++
+++ oups.com...
+++
+++ Found on qrz.com. he ARRL now only wants only no code hams. And as
+++ for the rest of us?
+++
+++ Not true what you say about the ARRL. Amateur radio is only as good as the
+++ effort you put into it. If you can't do code, you cannot communicate with a
+++ huge subset of the amateur population. That is a fact. You never will be
+++ able to so until your learn code, FCC requirement or no FCC requirement.
+++ There is some DX you will never get, some countries you may never contact,
+++ many people you will never meet.
+++
+++ Some no-coders sound like the gay rights lobby: They seem to be trying to
+++ make no-code the "norm". "I want you to think I am normal". "I am as just
+++ good as you, I can do HF now, I can be a real 'Ham'". (Gays can get
+++ "married"). True by regulation, but not really in practice.
+++
+++ In the foreseeable future you will never truly be a ham until you can QSO in
+++ code; you will only hold a piece of paper authorizing you to communicate on
+++ HF. Don't shoot the messanger. Don't bother disagreeing with me; it is the
+++ large subset of the amateur base that you have to convince and,
+++ unfortunately, that will take a while to change IF it ever does change. When
+++ people are sick of SSB QRM or we cannot QSO by voice due to conditions, we
+++ can simply move to the CW sub-bands and you are left "holding the mike".
+++
+++ As Walter Cronkite used to say. "That's the way it is..." February 23, 2007.
+++
+++ Hello? This is February 12, 2007. FACTUAL ERROR!!!
+++
+++ There's one little problem, "Stefan." Isn't ANY "Stefan Wolfe"
+++ in the FCC CORES database. The best that can be found
+++ are two Steven Wolfes:
+++
+++ Steven H. Wolfe, KC4UZW, Tech, FRN 0004408340
+++ Steven B. Wolfe, KC9KTN, Tech, FRN 0016067183
+++
+++ www.qrz.com confirms that.
+++
+++ The only "CW sub-bands" that Techs have is a small
+++ sliver on the bottom of two VHF ham bands. Of course,
+++ all other classes can use those. shrug So?
+++
+++
+++
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Only giving back which was taken away. In a land far far away and
along time ago Techs had some CW priviledge on 2 and 6 meter CW if my
senile memory has not forgotten me.

james

On 12 Feb 2007 20:46:58 -0800, "Bignose Bernie the Bagelman"
wrote:

+++
+++The sooner that you *******s all realize that ham radio as you have
+++known it is now ended and now getting a licence is much like pulling a
+++prize envelope out of a Cracker-Jack Box the better you'll all be for
+++it. Am I lying? It really don't matter anyway as kids today would
+++rather be on Youtube or Myspace or AOL IM with their friends.
*************

Yep faster and easier than pouning CW and listening to the static on
80 meters. Besides the Internet is far more reliable than F2-layer
propgation.

james