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On Feb 27, 3:49 pm, dxAce wrote:

No one was kept out. They kept themselves out through their refusal to learn the
code

wrong. I studied for the code and written test. They kept me and
others out by giving required to get your ham liscence phony ham tests
in addition to the real test, claiming it was also part of the real
test, marking correct answers wrong, and then claiming that wrong
answers were the correct answers.

question "What does ATV stand for as relating to amateur radio?"

My answer: "ATV stands for amateur tv, also known as ham tv"

They marked it wrong and then told me that "the correct answer is an
All-Terrain Vehhicle that is equipped with an amateur radio set. There
is't any such thing as amateur tv or ham tv.

THAT IS purposely keeping people out.





If that's the case, you only had to file a complaint. You clearly
didn't take your test with an FCC examiner. More likely a VE, or at an
ARRL event, or hamfest.

FCC takes testing irregularities seriously. What your suggesting,
here, is a crime. If taken with an FCC examiner, your experience would
have been highly public, at a testing event, and there would be many
witnesses. Witnesses to not only support your claim but to file
complaints of their own. FCC examiners at the event would have been
summarily terminated. And you'd be permitted to retest again. At no cost
to you.

If you took your test with a VE, at a hamfest, a single complaint
can get a VE summarily decertified while the merit of your complaint is
evaluated. Again, there would be witnesses, and supporting complaints.
And you would have been redirected to another VE for retesting.

That said, your complaint, here, is quite difficult to swallow.
First of all, all government issued tests, and that includes FCC and
even FAA tests, which should give us all pause, are required to publish
and maike available both the pool of questions AND their answers to
anyone interested in testing. Non published questions are NOT permitted
on the tests. This has the force of law. That means your phoney ham
tests is an allegation of a criminal act. Believe me when I tell you,
anyone observing this would raise holy hell if anyone were turned away
based on a 'phoney' test. In this litigious society, the lawsuits would
far outlive your interest in amateur radio.

And finally, there has been amateur TV since before there was TV. If
you have really studied your theory and legal elements, you would know
that a portion of many of the bands are set aside for slow-scan TV on HF
and fast scan TV VHF and above. There IS amateur TV. And any study
materials you'd have access to would include it.


So your story is false on its face. And you've neither studied code
in earnest (outside of the Cub Scout and Boy Scout merit badges) nor any
of the elements.




And one other thing...if you really expect us to believe your
complaint, it may be useful to not go to such lengths to remain
anonymous. Many, here, use handles and nicknames, we've come to
correspond with them privately, many have done business with some of
them, bought and sold radios, shared schematics...You're clearly not
willing to participate in any of that. And as such seem to be only about
the bitch, and not about the hobby, as your absurd anecdote attests.

If you'd like to try again, and if you're genuinely interested in
pursuing amateur radio, try being more of a participant. And a little
more genuine. You'll find that amateurs, as a whole, are a pretty
inclusive bunch. And any obstacles you face will be non-issues in the
wake of the juggernaut of knowledge and experience that will come your way.


p