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It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it
would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius |
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On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote:
It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM. |
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On Feb 15, 1:21 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote: It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just a sales ploy? Sales ploy??? All marketing decisions are ploys to make sales. It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - One possibility is that Eton will announce that the E1 is "upgraded" and sold with XM installed for the north america market and the G1 will be sold as the shortwave radio. The other possibility is Eton removes some features beyoind the XM plug from the E1 to make a stripped down G1. Given their tendency to announce but not deliver it's best to think of the G1 as vaportronics until a working radio is available for sale. |
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On Feb 15, 4:21�pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote: It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: *The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You, same cheap crap, as the Eaton **** E1 - made in China, not Germany, anymore. |
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On Feb 15, 3:43 pm, wrote:
On Feb 15, 4:21?pm, "Steve" wrote: On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote: It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: ?The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You, same cheap crap, as the Eaton **** E1 - made in China, not Germany, anymore.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Made in India, actually. But we've gone through this more than once in this group. Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL) puts the E1 together. BEL, as in the Indian public sector defense firm. http://www.asdsource.com/source_deta...ited_-_BEL.htm http://defensenews.com/index.php?S=06top100 So, buy your E1/G1 and contribute to the profit that BEL turns over to the Gov't of India (and yes, BEL regularly turns over a profit to the GOI). http://pib.nic.in/release/rel_print_...sp?relid=21377 But, true, the Eton/Grundig/Lextronix E1/G1 is not made in Germany. Nor is it made in Portugal, as the Grundig Satellits 400, 500, 650, 700 were. By the way, can anyone in this group tell us which was the last shortwave radio that Grundig mass produced from production facilities in Germany? |
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![]() So, buy your E1/G1 and contribute to the profit that BEL turns over to the Gov't of India (and yes, BEL regularly turns over a profit to the GOI). You are aware that US firms turn over a portion of their profit to the US Government, right? |
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On Feb 16, 9:34 pm, "Unrevealed Source"
wrote: So, buy your E1/G1 and contribute to the profit that BEL turns over to the Gov't of India (and yes, BEL regularly turns over a profit to the GOI). You are aware that US firms turn over a portion of their profit to the US Government, right? Right, bud. Maybe you missed what I was getting at there... Bharat Electronics is a Public Sector Undertaking of the Defence Production Department of India's Ministry of Defence. Note (to borrow from Wikipedia): "The public sector is the part of economic and administrative life that deals with the delivery of goods and services by and for the government" Today, there privately traded shares of Bharat Electronics on the Bombay Sensex; but, to be sure, the GOI is the dominant shareholder in this enterprise. The GOI holds some 75.9% of BEL shares. So, when I wrote of BEL turning over a profit to the GOI, I was referring to dividend payments (refer to the GOI Public Information Bureau released referenced). Contracts from India's Ministry of Defense by far constitute the bulk of Bharat Electronics' sales. Indeed, civilian sales and exports to foreign gov'ts account for only about 16% of Bharat Electronics' revenues. Hey, here in the US, we might have the Tobyhanna Army Depot, with all of the great work they carry out for CECOM; but the big production contracts for military communications go to private firms, such as ITT, Harris, Thales, General Dynamics, etc... |
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On Feb 15, 1:21 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote: It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No idea why they're developing this habit of dual branding of various radio models sold in the US market (e.g. also the case with the E5 / G5). In Germany, the non-XM-capable E1 is sold under the Lextronix name (http://www.thiecom.de/shop1/index.html? target=WeltempfaengerLextronix.html); but that's another story altogether. |
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On Feb 15, 1:21 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote: It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Meanwhile, I've spent much of this weekend playing around with Ten- Tec's humble "black box" receiver, the RX320, available from Universal for $349.00. It's amazing what you get for the price. The software I'm currently using with it (RxPlus) gives me my choice from among 34 filter bandwidths, four VFOs, excellent dsp noise reduction, the ability to decode SSTV, RTTY, PSK and HF-FAX, three AGC speeds, extremely effective passband tuning, 1 hz tuning resolution...I could go on and on. Yes, these black boxes chain you to a computer, it's true. Yes, it unfortunately includes DRM capability if you get the right software. However, it's *American made* and the bang for the buck is impressive--a refreshing change of pace from the overpriced portables people inexplicably obsess over. And I guess one nice thing about these black boxes is that there's not as much to break or moving parts to wear out. My only real complaint about this receiver concerns its lack of synchronous detection, but my sense is that this could have a software solution down the line. I don't know. But even out of the box it's amazing what you get for the money. Eton schmeton. |
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On Feb 17, 8:41 am, "Steve" wrote:
On Feb 15, 1:21 pm, "Steve" wrote: On Feb 14, 6:44 pm, "junius" wrote: It looks like the Eton E1 (minus XM satellite radio capability, it would seem) is to be rebadged as the Grundig G1. http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2001.html Not available until late 2007. The selling price on this set could potentially prove more attractive than that of the $500 E1XM: The G1's list price is $500 on Universal's website, as opposed to the $700 list price of the E1 (which Universal and other outlets regularly sell at 499.95). RadioIntel has some pictures of the G1, taken at CES 2007. http://www.radiointel.com/ces2007.htm junius Anyone know why they're slapping the Grundig name on it? Is this just a sales ploy? It's great that they're stripping off the XM.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Meanwhile, I've spent much of this weekend playing around with Ten- Tec's humble "black box" receiver, the RX320, available from Universal for $349.00. It's amazing what you get for the price. The software I'm currently using with it (RxPlus) gives me my choice from among 34 filter bandwidths, four VFOs, excellent dsp noise reduction, the ability to decode SSTV, RTTY, PSK and HF-FAX, three AGC speeds, extremely effective passband tuning, 1 hz tuning resolution...I could go on and on. Yes, these black boxes chain you to a computer, it's true. Yes, it unfortunately includes DRM capability if you get the right software. However, it's *American made* and the bang for the buck is impressive--a refreshing change of pace from the overpriced portables people inexplicably obsess over. And I guess one nice thing about these black boxes is that there's not as much to break or moving parts to wear out. My only real complaint about this receiver concerns its lack of synchronous detection, but my sense is that this could have a software solution down the line. I don't know. But even out of the box it's amazing what you get for the money. Eton schmeton.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Interesting set the RX-320. I played around with one once, and I considered getting one for a time. The bandwidth flexibility is really a plus. Admittedly, though, I have a preference for all of the knobs and buttons and other things with which things can go wrong! Were I looking to get a computer controlled set, I'd definitely go for the RX-320. As I'm soon planning to go for the General class ticket, though, I'm thinking my next plunge will be for the IC-7000 (which, incidentally, offers a passband width range of 200Hz to 10kHz in 200Hz steps for AM mode...nice for those who enjoy BCB SWLing!). If Icom were to have added synchronous detection to this unit, it'd hands down be much more interesting than almost any of the recent offerings for SWLers in the HF-receiver market. |
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