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Cato March 2nd 07 03:58 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

O.K., so you're setting up emegency evacuation packs for your
family, and space and weight are serious considerations, what with
food, clothing tent sleeping bags etc. If you thought that you might
have to abandon your vehicle and use bikes or go on foot, what radio
would you consider? If you were to pack a A.M./F.M./ Shortwave
receiver, which one would it be, and why? Would you pack a wind-up
antenna, or a small active loop?
Would it be a wind-up, multiple power source radio? Or would you
pack a small digital radio with extra batteries, or rechargeables with
a seperate solar charger? What would your decision be, and your
arguments in defense of your decision?


[email protected] March 2nd 07 04:50 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
I guess a low price AM/FM/Shortwave radio which works on batteries and
solar power and wind up power.A radio like that will work ok,almost as
good as the most expensive radio(s) In an emergency situation where all
h.ll might break lose,why spend a ton of money on an expensive radio?
Spend some good money on a small portable Katadyn water purifier (I own
one,I paid about $183.00 for it at the local Forest Supply store here in
Jackson just before the Y2K. www.katadyn.com and other survival
equipment that might keep you alive.Magafying glasses for making fire in
the daytime,a hatchet,a few good knives,fish hooks,stuff.
cuhulin


CDH March 2nd 07 04:58 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
On Mar 1, 9:58 pm, "Cato" wrote:
O.K., so you're setting up emegency evacuation packs for your
family, and space and weight are serious considerations, what with
food, clothing tent sleeping bags etc. If you thought that you might
have to abandon your vehicle and use bikes or go on foot, what radio
would you consider? If you were to pack a A.M./F.M./ Shortwave
receiver, which one would it be, and why? Would you pack a wind-up
antenna, or a small active loop?
Would it be a wind-up, multiple power source radio? Or would you
pack a small digital radio with extra batteries, or rechargeables with
a seperate solar charger? What would your decision be, and your
arguments in defense of your decision?


Probably the wind-up. Who wants to worry about batteries after the big
one has dropped?
On the other hand, you'll want something that has USB and LSB so you
can monitor ham operators and US military. So I would have my Grundig
FR200 (wind-up) for general broadcast reception and emergency
flashlight, and my Sony 2010. The Sony is kind of big, but it would be
an invaluable resource. I would use it sparingly to preserve its
batteries.
If you want to go as small as possible, the Grundig Mini100 or the
Kaito WRX911 are both breast pocket size and a pair of AAs last
forever in either.


[email protected] March 2nd 07 05:04 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
Across the majestic mountains to the valleys down below,,,,,,, North to
Alaska,,,,,, going North,,,,, the rush is onnn,,,,,,,,,,
AMC tb channel,right now.
cuhulin


[email protected] March 2nd 07 05:06 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
If the ''big one'' goes off,that transistor isn't going to work
anyway.Get an old tube type radio.
cuhulin


Geoffrey S. Mendelson March 2nd 07 08:21 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
Cato wrote:

O.K., so you're setting up emegency evacuation packs for your
family, and space and weight are serious considerations, what with
food, clothing tent sleeping bags etc. If you thought that you might
have to abandon your vehicle and use bikes or go on foot, what radio
would you consider? If you were to pack a A.M./F.M./ Shortwave
receiver, which one would it be, and why? Would you pack a wind-up
antenna, or a small active loop?
Would it be a wind-up, multiple power source radio? Or would you
pack a small digital radio with extra batteries, or rechargeables with
a seperate solar charger? What would your decision be, and your
arguments in defense of your decision?


I would (and kept in my sealed room, the Israeli version of a fallout
shelter) a Grundig FR-200. It's not much better than any other cheap
radio and worse than many, but it receives AM, FM, and shortwave, has
a loud speaker so everyone can hear, runs off of windup, a wall wart
and AA batteries. Uses a cordless phone battery which can be easily
found and replaced and has a light.

The only problem is that it needs to wound up every few months to
keep the rechargable battery working, and to make sure it still holds
a charge.

When I carried a gas mask, I carried with it a small pocket radio with
a speaker that used two AAA batteries. Better than nothing and if you
only listen for a few minutes at a time, will last for days.

I suggest that you go for two levels. One is an abandon all you have and
run and the other is take the car and get the heck out of there.
For the take the care, I suggest a decent laptop with a bunch of DVDs
or DVD ROMs with movies for the kids and if you want a real communications
monitoring station a Ten-Tec RX-320. The are not much more expensive than
a decent portable, and give you a lot more.

Geoff.



--
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[email protected] March 2nd 07 04:56 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
Small electronic devices,radios,laptop or hand held computers,other
devices.You can put that stuff in a metal container with a close/snug
fitting metal lid,that should work ok.Some people say something like
some copper screen wire will serve as a Faraday cage to protect the
electronic devices.I have never tried it out before,so I really don't
know.Of course all of that would need to be done before a ''big one''
goes off.
cuhulin


dxAce March 2nd 07 05:06 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 


wrote:

Small electronic devices,radios,laptop or hand held computers,other
devices.You can put that stuff in a metal container with a close/snug
fitting metal lid,that should work ok.Some people say something like
some copper screen wire will serve as a Faraday cage to protect the
electronic devices.I have never tried it out before,so I really don't
know.Of course all of that would need to be done before a ''big one''
goes off.


Big one? You mean like an upcoming weather forecast for downtown Tehran?

"Morning temperatures will be cool, then rapidly rising to 55,000 degrees.
Afternoon temperatures will drop rapidly, with heavy haze forecast throughout
the evening..."

dxAce
Michigan
USA



IR March 2nd 07 11:32 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
Cato wrote:
O.K., so you're setting up emegency evacuation packs for your
family, and space and weight are serious considerations, what with
food, clothing tent sleeping bags etc. If you thought that you might
have to abandon your vehicle and use bikes or go on foot, what radio
would you consider? If you were to pack a A.M./F.M./ Shortwave
receiver, which one would it be, and why? Would you pack a wind-up
antenna, or a small active loop?
Would it be a wind-up, multiple power source radio? Or would you
pack a small digital radio with extra batteries, or rechargeables with
a seperate solar charger? What would your decision be, and your
arguments in defense of your decision?


I think I'd just carry tools, and fix radios along the way,
although I'd sure be tempted to carry a 2-way radio...

Roadie March 3rd 07 12:07 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
On Mar 1, 10:58 pm, "Cato" wrote:
O.K., so you're setting up emegency evacuation packs for your
family, and space and weight are serious considerations, what with
food, clothing tent sleeping bags etc. If you thought that you might
have to abandon your vehicle and use bikes or go on foot, what radio
would you consider? If you were to pack a A.M./F.M./ Shortwave
receiver, which one would it be, and why? Would you pack a wind-up
antenna, or a small active loop?
Would it be a wind-up, multiple power source radio? Or would you
pack a small digital radio with extra batteries, or rechargeables with
a seperate solar charger? What would your decision be, and your
arguments in defense of your decision?


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


John Smith I March 3rd 07 01:16 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
wrote:
If the ''big one'' goes off,that transistor isn't going to work
anyway.Get an old tube type radio.
cuhulin


Keep the emergency radio wrapped up in aluminum foil. Should provide a
high degree of protection ...

Yanno, just like the tinfoil hats some of the guys wear around here. grin

JS
--
http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com

Geoffrey S. Mendelson March 3rd 07 05:11 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
Roadie wrote:

A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

HD Radio Fan March 3rd 07 05:13 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

"CDH" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 1, 9:58 pm, "Cato" wrote:
O.K., so you're setting up emegency evacuation packs for your
family, and space and weight are serious considerations, what with
food, clothing tent sleeping bags etc. If you thought that you might
have to abandon your vehicle and use bikes or go on foot, what radio
would you consider? If you were to pack a A.M./F.M./ Shortwave
receiver, which one would it be, and why? Would you pack a wind-up
antenna, or a small active loop?
Would it be a wind-up, multiple power source radio? Or would you
pack a small digital radio with extra batteries, or rechargeables with
a seperate solar charger? What would your decision be, and your
arguments in defense of your decision?


Probably the wind-up. Who wants to worry about batteries after the big
one has dropped?
On the other hand, you'll want something that has USB and LSB so you
can monitor ham operators and US military. So I would have my Grundig
FR200 (wind-up) for general broadcast reception and emergency
flashlight, and my Sony 2010. The Sony is kind of big, but it would be
an invaluable resource. I would use it sparingly to preserve its
batteries.
If you want to go as small as possible, the Grundig Mini100 or the
Kaito WRX911 are both breast pocket size and a pair of AAs last
forever in either.



Wind-up radios(s) that include AM/FM & TV audio and NOAA Weather.It is
essential that you keep informed on local conditions at all times.

A hand-held scanner to listen to local police/fire and others including
Amateur/Ham operators. However, a hand-held scanner with some method of
recharging the batteries like a small portable solar panel with regulator
would be a considered a luxury item while roughing it on a bicycle. It
could also become an item of interest to persons you would likely want to
avoid during a serious crises - thieves and authorities under heightened
alert.

In the night/evenings a wind-up shortwave radio would provide entertainment
as well as provide possible alternative news sources which would need to be
digested with a large dose of propaganda awareness.

Anything which requires batteries would need a reliable solar/wind-up type
recharging device.

Don't forget your Iodine pills - LOL!



HD Radio Fan March 3rd 07 05:18 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
Cato wrote:



When I carried a gas mask, I carried with it a small pocket radio with
a speaker that used two AAA batteries. Better than nothing and if you
only listen for a few minutes at a time, will last for days.


In an uncertain situation I would avoid wasting power/energy of any sort.

USE headphones whenever possible. Uses less energy and you will not emit
any audio to passerby's which will attract attention. DO NOT BRING
ATTENTION TO YOURSELF!



HD Radio Fan March 3rd 07 05:19 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Big one? You mean like an upcoming weather forecast for downtown Tehran?

"Morning temperatures will be cool, then rapidly rising to 55,000 degrees.
Afternoon temperatures will drop rapidly, with heavy haze forecast

throughout
the evening..."


LMAO!



Geoffrey S. Mendelson March 3rd 07 05:41 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
HD Radio Fan wrote:
USE headphones whenever possible. Uses less energy and you will not emit
any audio to passerby's which will attract attention. DO NOT BRING
ATTENTION TO YOURSELF!


Again only in the U.S. Here if you have a radio in a shelter you SHARE it.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

dxAce March 3rd 07 05:44 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 


"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

HD Radio Fan wrote:
USE headphones whenever possible. Uses less energy and you will not emit
any audio to passerby's which will attract attention. DO NOT BRING
ATTENTION TO YOURSELF!


Again only in the U.S. Here if you have a radio in a shelter you SHARE it.


Less time in shelters = more time trying to defeat Hezbollah.

Better luck next time.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce March 3rd 07 06:34 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 




"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

HD Radio Fan wrote:
USE headphones whenever possible. Uses less energy and you will not emit
any audio to passerby's which will attract attention. DO NOT BRING
ATTENTION TO YOURSELF!


Again only in the U.S. Here if you have a radio in a shelter you SHARE it.


Less time in shelters = more time trying to defeat Hezbollah.


I look at it this way: We (The USofA) send your country (adopted/country) one
hell of a lot of money every year and what do we get out of it? Folks hiding in
shelters?

Get off your ass, or start repaying your debt to the USofA.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Geoffrey S. Mendelson March 3rd 07 07:51 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
dxAce wrote:
I look at it this way: We (The USofA) send your country (adopted/country) one
hell of a lot of money every year and what do we get out of it? Folks hiding in
shelters?

Get off your ass, or start repaying your debt to the USofA.


With almost everyone at age 18 going into the service, and people
serving in the reserves until their 40's, what more do you want?

What would you have done with over 200 rockets a day landing on your head?

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

dxAce March 3rd 07 07:58 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 


"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:

dxAce wrote:
I look at it this way: We (The USofA) send your country (adopted/country) one
hell of a lot of money every year and what do we get out of it? Folks hiding in
shelters?

Get off your ass, or start repaying your debt to the USofA.


With almost everyone at age 18 going into the service, and people
serving in the reserves until their 40's, what more do you want?

What would you have done with over 200 rockets a day landing on your head?


Gone into southern Lebanon and kicked ****ing ass. Sure beats letting the *******s
get away with it. Instead, you ****ing butt lickers are content to let us subsidize
you... get out there and show some balls, elsewise we need to stop subsidizing you..

BRB.. time for Kol Israel on 7545..



HD Radio Fan March 3rd 07 08:31 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
Roadie wrote:

A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:

1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?



Geoffrey S. Mendelson March 3rd 07 08:49 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
HD Radio Fan wrote:

A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?


Are there Canadian weather brodcasts on VHF? NOAA is a U.S. government
agency.

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

HD Radio Fan March 3rd 07 09:24 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
HD Radio Fan wrote:

A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in

an
emergency radio.

Only in the U.S.


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?


Are there Canadian weather brodcasts on VHF? NOAA is a U.S. government
agency.


Will there be ANY broadcasts on VHF after the BIG one?



Michael Black March 3rd 07 09:31 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson ) writes:
HD Radio Fan wrote:

A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.

Only in the U.S.


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?


Are there Canadian weather brodcasts on VHF? NOAA is a U.S. government
agency.

But presumably because there existed dedicated receivers for
those weather broadcasts in the US, Canada followed. So there is a chain
of weather broadcast stations here in Canada using the same frequencies as in
the US.

Of course, the location reference was that shortwave reception wasn't
particularly useful in the US (so yes, properly it would have made sense
to use "North America" there), since in North America the shortwave
stations are generally not news sources.

Michael


john sumner[_2_] March 3rd 07 10:24 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
I look at it this way: We (The USofA) send your country

(adopted/country) one
hell of a lot of money every year and what do we get out of it? Folks

hiding in
shelters?

Get off your ass, or start repaying your debt to the USofA.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Ace i too think it is high time that the country of Israel should start to
fight its own battles and do thir own dirty work in regards to iran



john sumner[_2_] March 3rd 07 10:26 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote: With almost everyone at age 18 going into the service, and

people
serving in the reserves until their 40's, what more do you want?

What would you have done with over 200 rockets a day landing on your head?

Geoff.


Yeah but you give your ultra orthadox fantics a free pass, because you dont
want to **** them off to much.



dxAce March 3rd 07 10:31 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 


john sumner wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
I look at it this way: We (The USofA) send your country

(adopted/country) one
hell of a lot of money every year and what do we get out of it? Folks

hiding in
shelters?

Get off your ass, or start repaying your debt to the USofA.


Ace i too think it is high time that the country of Israel should start to
fight its own battles and do thir own dirty work in regards to iran


Indeed.

Get down with it.



dxAce March 3rd 07 10:45 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 


dxAce wrote:

john sumner wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
I look at it this way: We (The USofA) send your country

(adopted/country) one
hell of a lot of money every year and what do we get out of it? Folks

hiding in
shelters?

Get off your ass, or start repaying your debt to the USofA.


Ace i too think it is high time that the country of Israel should start to
fight its own battles and do thir own dirty work in regards to iran


Indeed.

Get down with it.


Heck, I actually like Israel and the IDF. I spent some time in the 70's there...
but it's time to cut the cord and get on with it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



charlie March 3rd 07 10:47 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
SNIP

With almost everyone at age 18 going into the service, and people
serving in the reserves until their 40's, what more do you want?

What would you have done with over 200 rockets a day landing on your head?

Geoff.


One thing's for sure - I am not going to defend the behaviour of
Israel (I cannot get my head around the fact that a country based on
the experience of the Nazis can turn round and be Nazis). But I have
to say that having someone like "dxAxe" prattle on as if he
represents America is sickening. America and Israel have a lot in
common when it comes to the way that they treat their neighbours.

I am very thankful that I do not live in Central America or anywhere
bordering Israel. I do acknowledge that the British are pretty much
responsible for creating the mess in and around Israel. American
foreign policy creates their messes - over and over again from Korea
to Iraq (and soon Iran).

Pot kettle!

Charlie.

--
www.wymsey.co.uk

dxAce March 3rd 07 10:49 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 


charlie wrote:

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
SNIP

With almost everyone at age 18 going into the service, and people
serving in the reserves until their 40's, what more do you want?

What would you have done with over 200 rockets a day landing on your head?

Geoff.


One thing's for sure - I am not going to defend the behaviour of
Israel (I cannot get my head around the fact that a country based on
the experience of the Nazis can turn round and be Nazis). But I have
to say that having someone like "dxAxe" prattle on as if he
represents America is sickening.


You been in Israel, boy?



Geoffrey S. Mendelson March 3rd 07 11:09 PM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
charlie wrote:
One thing's for sure - I am not going to defend the behaviour of
Israel (I cannot get my head around the fact that a country based on
the experience of the Nazis can turn round and be Nazis).


Israel are not and have never been Nazis. If you are refering to the
treatment of the Palestinians, Israel has never treated them like
the Nazis. It's just propaganda created by the news organizations
to sell newspapers/tv time.

Israel has certainly been far kinder and gentler to the "Palestinians"
than any of their leaders or neighboring countries have been. It
also has been kinder and gentler than England ever was in Ireland.

The Palestinians have never been above sacrificing their own children
for "the cause". The famous shooting of a 12 year old boy filmed by
a French TV crew, was investigated by a German TV network and their
conclusion is that he was shot by a Palestinain because he was on camera.

To keep it the least bit on the topic of shortwave radio, Israel continues
its English broadcasts, but since the first "gulf war", they are nothing
like they were, and the IBA never bothers to refute the claims of the
Palestian propagand machine. If anyone acts like Nazis, it's the Palestinains
complete with their "ethnic cleansing" of Christians.

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at
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Cato March 4th 07 01:13 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...





Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:

1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.
We have the same type of Weather Alert-Emergency Alert system as
the U.S. Environment Canada runs it as far as I know. We can buy the
same alert radios as in the U.S., We use SAME technology in the latest
radios. Same frequencys. NOAA and Environment Canada have agreements
together on the system.
I agree that a radio with weather frequencys would be very
important. However, for some reason, I don't trust these wind-up
radios for long term use. I prefer to use a small digital am/fm/sw
with spare rechargeables and a solar charger. Reason being that I also
use AA batteries for other things. Some of the new thin film solar
cell foldable chargers do a very good job. I believe the thin film
foldables were developed for the military. I was able to get one for
my kit. along with a some sets of the latest technology rechargeables.
(Eneloop and Panasonic make some of the newest high tech batteries.)
Ya, if you think they might drop the big one, wrap one radio in
something like cardboard, and then wrap it in metal foil . (Faraday
cage). If you think the big one is about to happen, retract all whip
antennas, unhook all other antennas, keep your radios at least ten
feet from any metal pipes, lengths of wire etc. that could act as a
collector of EMP. Any whip antenna should be as short as possible, no
more then 30", and much shorter then that if possible. That's why a
very small radio, with a collapsed antenna length of maybe four or
five inches has a better chance of surviving even if it is not in a
Faraday cage.




dxAce March 4th 07 02:10 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 


Cato wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...





Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:

1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/


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Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.


When would you like to sign title over?

Come on now, you being a nice Liberal, Carbon Footprint, Al Gore, Cock Sucking kinda Canuck *******.. Give it
up, Boy!

I'm a real Native American...





m II March 4th 07 02:44 AM

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dxAce wrote:

Cato wrote:

On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...





Roadie wrote:
A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.
Only in the U.S.
Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:
1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/
The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.


When would you like to sign title over?

Come on now, you being a nice Liberal, Carbon Footprint, Al Gore, Cock Sucking kinda Canuck *******.. Give it
up, Boy!

I'm a real Native American...




I believe you once said you were one sixth Native stock. It appears you
use the race card when it's to your advantage. When it comes to
others...well..you claim they're just pieces of
Mexican/Japanese/Canadian ****.

I feel sorry for you and how you were brought up. Your parents couldn't
instill a sense of decency or respect in you. I'm sure they tried.

You should avoid getting drunk in a public forum. Try AA. Please.


mike



[email protected] March 4th 07 03:03 AM

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I saw some neat looking battery chargers at the Wal Mart store
electronics department this afternoon.(I always check out the
electronics department and the magazine racks too,I also bought a new
computer magazine at the store along with my usual Beer and grub) Saker
www.sakar.com makes them.Plug the charger in a car cigarette lighter
(the charger comes with two AA batteries) and the batteries get charged
up.
cuhulin


Roadie March 4th 07 03:15 AM

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On Mar 3, 12:11 pm, (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
Roadie wrote:
A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.

Geoff.


Do you honestly think that hams will be of any use for providing
emergency or weather information in an emergency? They haven't yet.
And what possible value could there for the victims of a hurricane to
be able to hear BBC or any other international broadcaster on
shortwave. The original poster would be much better off listening to
local MW and FM broadcasts as was done in New Orleans.



Roadie March 4th 07 03:23 AM

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On Mar 3, 8:13 pm, "Cato" wrote:
On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:





"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...


Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:

1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -


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Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.
We have the same type of Weather Alert-Emergency Alert system as
the U.S. Environment Canada runs it as far as I know. We can buy the
same alert radios as in the U.S., We use SAME technology in the latest
radios. Same frequencys. NOAA and Environment Canada have agreements
together on the system.
I agree that a radio with weather frequencys would be very
important. However, for some reason, I don't trust these wind-up
radios for long term use.


Uuuuh, why don't you trust the windup radios. Have you had problems
with one? The Baygen radios have been used in Africa for a long
time. Over how long a term were you planning to use the radio.

I prefer to use a small digital am/fm/sw
with spare rechargeables and a solar charger.


Do you realize that solar chargers take a long time and that you need
sun or light for them to work. That may not be very practical in a
real emergency.


Reason being that I also
use AA batteries for other things. Some of the new thin film solar
cell foldable chargers do a very good job. I believe the thin film
foldables were developed for the military. I was able to get one for
my kit. along with a some sets of the latest technology rechargeables.
(Eneloop and Panasonic make some of the newest high tech batteries.)
Ya, if you think they might drop the big one, wrap one radio in
something like cardboard, and then wrap it in metal foil . (Faraday
cage). If you think the big one is about to happen, retract all whip
antennas, unhook all other antennas, keep your radios at least ten
feet from any metal pipes, lengths of wire etc. that could act as a
collector of EMP.


If you survive an event with an EMP sufficient to knock out
electronics I doubt there will be much to hear. Your needs will be
far more immediate.


Any whip antenna should be as short as possible, no
more then 30", and much shorter then that if possible. That's why a
very small radio, with a collapsed antenna length of maybe four or
five inches has a better chance of surviving even if it is not in a
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[email protected] March 4th 07 03:36 AM

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You ever watched the Damnation Alley movie before? It comes on the FMC
Radio tb channel tomorrow at 11:30 PM.Objective,Burma movie has just now
started on Radio tb.
cuhulin


Michael Black March 4th 07 03:36 AM

Emergency Go Bag. What Receiver?
 
"Roadie" ) writes:
On Mar 3, 8:13 pm, "Cato" wrote:
On Mar 3, 12:31 pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:





"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in ...


Roadie wrote:


A radio that uses a built-in generator would be much easier to carry
around and keep charged up than your other alternatives. AM, FM and
weather channel coverage is far far more imprtant than shortwave in an
emergency radio.


Only in the U.S.


Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice:
1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/


The original poster to this thread is in Canada. Close enough?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yes, I am in Canada. I live about ten miles from the border at
Niagara Falls. Spent a lot of time in both Canada and the U.S. Have
relatives in both countrys. Family been here since 1635.
We have the same type of Weather Alert-Emergency Alert system as
the U.S. Environment Canada runs it as far as I know. We can buy the
same alert radios as in the U.S., We use SAME technology in the latest
radios. Same frequencys. NOAA and Environment Canada have agreements
together on the system.
I agree that a radio with weather frequencys would be very
important. However, for some reason, I don't trust these wind-up
radios for long term use.


Uuuuh, why don't you trust the windup radios. Have you had problems
with one? The Baygen radios have been used in Africa for a long
time. Over how long a term were you planning to use the radio.

And of course, one key thing about emergency preparedness is redundancy.
If the windup generator fails, it won't kill the radio. And you should
ahve batteries and other things available to run it. On the other
hand, as you point out the generator is useful if the solar cells won't
charge the batteries because there's no sun (or to run the radio while
the batteries are being charged in the daytime while the sun is out).

Michael

John Smith I March 4th 07 04:43 AM

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charlie wrote:

...
represents America is sickening. America and Israel have a lot in
common when it comes to the way that they treat their neighbours.
...
Charlie.


Yeah, would be good to see Israel put some of her MOOSELUM neighbors out
of their misery--just humane really.

JS


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