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Telamon March 5th 07 05:23 AM

"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
 
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I don't own a shortwave set anymore - I just AM DX, and that
ain't dead !

No, AM is just in agony and about to die.

AM talks/news/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well.

That is about 30 stations out of 5000.

And several have already begun their move to FM from AM, starting
with KSL!



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30 stations ? Try again:

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html


I have an idea... if the big boys don't seem to think AM is viable,
why not give it back to the little local guys who CAN make it work?
AM is still very viable. It's the likes of Clear Channel et. al. that
are killing it by loading it down with the same **** all across the
dial. Who the hell wants cookie cutter radio?


Hey, you go girl!

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Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo March 5th 07 05:27 AM

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Read up a little on this. Your facts are worng, and you do not understand
how easy it is to move a format from an AM to and FM.... many operators
could do it on a few hours' notice!


My favorite, WLW AM is ranked #1:

"Radio Ratings Are In"

"WLW-AM again was No. 1 for all listeners (ages 12 and older), as it
has been since January 2000. It also was No. 1 in the 25-54 demo that
advertisers want."

It is declining in 25-54, and when it gets an FM competitor, it will be as
dead in that demo as KDKA in Pittsburg is.

No advertiser uses 12+ ratings for ad buys... that is why those numbers are
given away for free.

Oh, tell me.... how far down the list in 25-54 do you have to go to find the
next AM station? I'll tell you... it is after 13 FMs in a row!

So, in that market, there is 1 AM in the top 10, 25-54, and one in the top
20. The next is at #20.

AM is dead.



Telamon March 5th 07 05:28 AM

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These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that
AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual
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And, you just don't get it - the FM band is over-allocated, so there
is just only so much room for new FMs - this is already tied up in the
FCC. ?There will always be a use for AM, and since HD/IBOC has no
consumer interest, and little interest on AM from stations owners,
there will always be something to DX.

I have told you multiple times that no new FMs are being created.

In Phoenix, Bonnevile bought an FM from Emmis, and moved the AM n/t format
to it. In DC, they killed classical on an FM they already owned and moved
n/t to that station. In Seattle, they just bought multiple FM stations and
one will get the AM KIRO format. In Salt Lake, they took a lower-rated FM
they owned and started the transition to FM by simulcasting KSL for a while.

Cox took existing AMs they owned in Jacksonville and Dayton and is
simulcasting n/t and will eventually have the format on FM only. Clear
Channel took two FMs, one each in Pittsburgh and New Orleans, and did new
n/t formats on them... killing KDKA and WWL in the sales demos.

In other words, operators are moving the format from AM to FM, from existing
AM facilities, to existing FM ones, because only on FM can n/t survive.
Expect to see more and morde of this over the next five years as AM
audiences age even more and the spots become unsalable due to old
demographics. The WTOP experience has proven that the same format, moved
from AM to FM, will get much younger and salable audiences... yet in another
post you say that WTOP is still on AM, despite the calls and format having
moved 14 months ago to FM!!!!

Read up a little on this. Your facts are worng, and you do not understand
how easy it is to move a format from an AM to and FM.... many operators
could do it on a few hours' notice!


My favorite, WLW AM is ranked #1:

"Radio Ratings Are In"

"WLW-AM again was No. 1 for all listeners (ages 12 and older), as it
has been since January 2000. It also was No. 1 in the 25-54 demo that
advertisers want."

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs...ngs-are-in.asp

David was on a roll and you had to go and spoil it.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 5th 07 05:31 AM

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No chasing required, they will come to your door, asking
to mow your lawn, fertilize your garden or to ask your
pre-pubescent daughter out for the night,


It is then my patriotic friend, you must reach in the
closet, place your hands upon the weapon, and blow the
cock sucking, bean blower back into Mary's arms....


Stupid racist.


Stupid little pussy faggot!


I'm sorry, I should have said "racist bigot."


But, then again, you have just said it for me.


Sorry, I'm not a racist like you, Edweenie...


I ain't white, but unlike you, I dislike no one... except for
prancing poseurs... like you, boy.


Get it, retard?


Oh you're white all right. The amount of Miami Indian in you is
so miniscule. Do your homework and stop stretching the truth.


I have, and it's enough so that I'm not white.. I'm of mixed race,
and damn proud of it!

dxAce Michigan USA


Sorry buddy, You're not "mix race." So tell me who in your family in
non-white?


Get off the racial stuff. If you go back more than a few generations and
you will find most people are of mixed race. We all came from Adam you
know.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

John Smith I March 5th 07 05:44 AM

"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
 
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The rest of AMs can only make money with religion, brokered shows or niche
ethnic fare.



Rush and "rush wannabes" plague the dial. Religious programs line up
like ducks across the bands. Sports stations "reliving" old plays fall
in between the above mess. And, then there are the "financial guys"
telling me how to invest the millions I don't have :( And, there is a
least one lawyer giving out advice on how to sue someone, somewhere at
sometime ... I think I hate rush the worst ...

Kim Komando is a refreshing relief on the weekend and Art Bell is not
bad when he has a credible guest (George Noory sucks with his
witches/warlocks and vampires :( )

It is hard to find anything funny, worthwhile, really informative or
entertaining.

I swear, it has to be a plan, you just couldn't ruin something that
badly unless you had a good plan on how to do it :(

JS
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http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com

David Eduardo March 5th 07 05:46 AM

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David was on a roll and you had to go and spoil it.

Actually I was saying the same thing all along... news/talk is a top format.
Nearly all n/t stations are on Am, so nearly every market has one top rated
(in the top 5 12+ and top 10 25-54). But as time moves on, the AM n/t
audience is ageing because the under-55's do not listen to AM all that much.
So the trend is to move the format to FM, where it does better.

What we have is a major format on AM, not an attraction to the AM band. And
the format is moving to FM, which will leave AM with nothing but tiny nice
formats and religious broadcasters.



John Smith I March 5th 07 05:49 AM

"Should Country stations specifically chase Hispanics?"
 
David Eduardo wrote:
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David was on a roll and you had to go and spoil it.

Actually I was saying the same thing all along... news/talk is a top format.
Nearly all n/t stations are on Am, so nearly every market has one top rated
(in the top 5 12+ and top 10 25-54). But as time moves on, the AM n/t
audience is ageing because the under-55's do not listen to AM all that much.
So the trend is to move the format to FM, where it does better.

What we have is a major format on AM, not an attraction to the AM band. And
the format is moving to FM, which will leave AM with nothing but tiny nice
formats and religious broadcasters.



Michael Savage ... he is one of the few entertaining personalities left ...

JS
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[email protected] March 5th 07 06:56 AM

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Last night,Art KOOK Bell said everyday there are millions of things
said about him and most of them aren't true.He said he has gotten used
to it.
cuhulin


RHF March 5th 07 10:55 AM

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Stations are not dropping AM, just simulcasting on FM to fill holes in
their coverage, but that is no given:


Nobody said AM was being dropped. But the only viable format on AM, news
talk, is being moved from AM where it gets no salable audience, to FM,
where
it does. Once this happens, AM will have no magnet for listening in any
age,
and will die.


Funny, KSL news/talk/sports is not dropping AM, plus as we saw, FM is
over-allocated and tied up in the FCC, for quite some time. ?AM is not
moving news/talk/sport to FM, ?just simulcasting, if that is even
approved - too many listeners would be lost.


You just don't get it.


KSL is already on KSL-FM, in a simulcast, in preparation for an eventual
total move of the format to FM when the demos on AM can no longer produce
sales. Just as the same owner ALREADY did in Phoenix and Washington, DC.,
and is preparing to do in Seattle.


WTOP, 50,000 watts in DC ceased its news and talk format on AM and took it
to FM. The AM became specialty programming with no ratings.


KTAR in Phoenix moved its n/t format to FM, and put sports on the old AM
channel.


KIRO, 50 kw in Seattle, is going to move to FM.


Clear Channel in Pittsburgh and New Orleans has beaten KDKA and WWL with new
FM news/talk stations in ratings and billing in 25-54. News/talkers in
Orlando, Akron, Jersey, etc., on FM are winning. Stations owned by Cox and
Clear in Jacksonville, Dayton, Tallahassee and several others are moving or
have moved totally to FM only.


These owners, holding over 1500 stations in the largest markets, know that
AM can not get sales demos any more and they are moving the intellectual
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As I stated, KSL is NOT turning off its AM, just simulcasting on FM.
WTOP will still broadcast on AM. There are hundreds of 50KW AM
stations:

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html

To your shagrin, I will be able to DX many of these for many years
from Maryland, long after you are dead. I don't have to listen to news/
talk/sports, as long as, there is AM to DX. When, Coast-To-Coast-AM ,
the "Truckers Network", WWL, WLW, WHO, WCCO, WSB, WABC, WSM, WGN,
WBBM, WOR, WJR, CHWO, WHAS, WGY, CJBC, WHAS, WLS, CKLW, WTAM, WBT,
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Actually as more and more AM Radio Stations go to
FM; and there is fewer and fewer AM Radio Stations.
The fun of DXing AM may just pick-up as the AM Band
Clears up and the Night-Time AM Reception becomes
more like the 1930s with a few long range "Catches"
out there each Night to be Heard. ~ RHF

dxAce March 5th 07 12:47 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:

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I have about 10 years to go, so don't count the days.


Well heck, you'll be 70 then.


I enjoy what I am doing. You obviously don't.


Sure I do!



Retire, enjoy yourself!

And radio is notorious
for having no pensions... you save and invest or you are screwed.


Well, I have my pension from my previous employment, and I saved and
invested.

It could be much worse.


Yeah, you could have not been a racist bigot.


But I'm not!

LMFAO at the fake Hispanic.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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