"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"

The couple thousand people in the US who actually listen to AM DX don't
really count, as far as the radio stations themselves are concerned.
Personally, I'd rather have clear local reception 24/7 than be able to catch
WLW from Cincinnati every now and then. Besides, I can listen WLW any time
I want on the net.

Yes, this sucks in a way. I have dozens of analog radios, from 1935 tube
antiques (including an E. H. Scott Allwave 23 in a Tasman cabinet that I
have had since about 1970) up through 1970s Grundig Satellit 2100, Panasonic
RF-2200, a Drake R8, and a Grundig S-800, and loads of small portables and
antique 50s/60s transistor sets. Potentially, all of these could be made
useless on AM.

However, I really don't think HD AM will take over. Hell, we are getting a
brand new, 50,000 watt sports/talk AM station here in 3 weeks! 1010 on the
dial for you AM DXers! But if the choice is no free local radio because
everything has moved to subscription satellite radio (because it's digital),
then I vote for local, free, digital, HD radio. And I will vote with my
dollars.

Mike

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"

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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"

Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.

Mike

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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"

Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.

Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like fantasy
world like Edweenie does.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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Mike wrote:

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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath
of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends
real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"

Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.

Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like
fantasy
world like Edweenie does.

While your attempt to shift the issue is typical, it is also transparent.
The quote above serves to illustrate what is happening with HD radio. If
enough people are willing to support it and vote with their dollars (I am)
then it will succeed, regardless of what you and other "analog or die!"
types say or do. Money always talks. Radio stations aren't going to
cater to people who are outside of their primary market. If the primary
market demands HD radio, then it will happen. If a few thousand DXers
suffer, too bad. Millions of others will benefit.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It doesn't matter
*who* said it, because it's true.

Mike

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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath
of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends
real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"

Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.

Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like
fantasy
world like Edweenie does.

While your attempt to shift the issue is typical, it is also transparent.
The quote above serves to illustrate what is happening with HD radio. If
enough people are willing to support it and vote with their dollars (I am)
then it will succeed, regardless of what you and other "analog or die!"
types say or do. Money always talks. Radio stations aren't going to
cater to people who are outside of their primary market. If the primary
market demands HD radio, then it will happen. If a few thousand DXers
suffer, too bad. Millions of others will benefit.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It doesn't matter
*who* said it, because it's true.

But it's not a need at all... as AM radio serves everyone quite well at the
present time without HD/IBOC.

I'd characterize it more as a 'want' on the part of the few, rather than a
'need' of the many.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It doesn't matter
*who* said it, because it's true.

But it's not a need at all... as AM radio serves everyone quite well at
the
present time without HD/IBOC.

Yes, it serves it's aging and declining audience quite well. If it wants
to survive another 70 years, then it *may* have to change.

IAC, I'm not talking about AM HD. AM HD seems like a waste of time, like
"AM stereo" was 20 years ago. I'm talking about FM HD. FM was originally
designed for high fidelity. Then we got stereo, a big improvement. Now
it's time to go digital, another big improvement, with the added side
benefit of more channels in the same bandwidth.

I'd characterize it more as a 'want' on the part of the few, rather than a
'need' of the many.

Don't discount "wants". The "wants' of the many also outweigh the "wants"
of the few. If more people want HD AM than want analog AM then guess who
wins? If not, then things will stay the same. That's the thing about
"majority rules".

Mike

"dxAce" wrote in message
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But it's not a need at all... as AM radio serves everyone quite well at
the
present time without HD/IBOC.

No, it does not. Most AM listening is in over-55 year olds, and in the
under-45 group, less than 10% are using AM... even less as you move younger.
In a few more years, AM will essentially be an arcane service for retirees,
unless something is done to reverse the trend... and that something is HD:

I'd characterize it more as a 'want' on the part of the few, rather than a
'need' of the many.

AM is irrelevant to most Americans. More than 60% NEVER use it.

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dxAce wrote:

Mike wrote:

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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock,
"Wrath of Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie
lends real credence to your argument" - dxAce,
"rec.radio.shortwave"

Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.

Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like
fantasy world like Edweenie does.

Absolutely hilarious.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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dxAce wrote:

Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"

Remarkable.

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Telamon
Ventura, California