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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!


"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"


"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"


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Mike wrote:

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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!


"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"


"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"


Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.

Mike

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Mike wrote:

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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath of
Kahn"


"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"


Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.


Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like fantasy
world like Edweenie does.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath
of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends
real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"


Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.


Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like
fantasy
world like Edweenie does.


While your attempt to shift the issue is typical, it is also transparent.
The quote above serves to illustrate what is happening with HD radio. If
enough people are willing to support it and vote with their dollars (I am)
then it will succeed, regardless of what you and other "analog or die!"
types say or do. Money always talks. Radio stations aren't going to
cater to people who are outside of their primary market. If the primary
market demands HD radio, then it will happen. If a few thousand DXers
suffer, too bad. Millions of others will benefit.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It doesn't matter
*who* said it, because it's true.

Mike

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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock, "Wrath
of
Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie lends
real
credence to your argument" - dxAce, "rec.radio.shortwave"

Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.


Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like
fantasy
world like Edweenie does.


While your attempt to shift the issue is typical, it is also transparent.
The quote above serves to illustrate what is happening with HD radio. If
enough people are willing to support it and vote with their dollars (I am)
then it will succeed, regardless of what you and other "analog or die!"
types say or do. Money always talks. Radio stations aren't going to
cater to people who are outside of their primary market. If the primary
market demands HD radio, then it will happen. If a few thousand DXers
suffer, too bad. Millions of others will benefit.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It doesn't matter
*who* said it, because it's true.


But it's not a need at all... as AM radio serves everyone quite well at the
present time without HD/IBOC.

I'd characterize it more as a 'want' on the part of the few, rather than a
'need' of the many.

dxAce
Michigan
USA




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"dxAce" wrote in message
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It doesn't matter
*who* said it, because it's true.


But it's not a need at all... as AM radio serves everyone quite well at
the
present time without HD/IBOC.


Yes, it serves it's aging and declining audience quite well. If it wants
to survive another 70 years, then it *may* have to change.

IAC, I'm not talking about AM HD. AM HD seems like a waste of time, like
"AM stereo" was 20 years ago. I'm talking about FM HD. FM was originally
designed for high fidelity. Then we got stereo, a big improvement. Now
it's time to go digital, another big improvement, with the added side
benefit of more channels in the same bandwidth.

I'd characterize it more as a 'want' on the part of the few, rather than a
'need' of the many.


Don't discount "wants". The "wants' of the many also outweigh the "wants"
of the few. If more people want HD AM than want analog AM then guess who
wins? If not, then things will stay the same. That's the thing about
"majority rules".

Mike

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On Mar 6, 12:38�pm, "Mike" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. *It doesn't matter
*who* said it, because it's true.


But it's not a need at all... as AM radio serves everyone quite well at
the
present time without HD/IBOC.


Yes, it serves it's aging and declining audience quite well. * If it wants
to survive another 70 years, then it *may* have to change.

IAC, I'm not talking about AM HD. * AM HD seems like a waste of time, like
"AM stereo" was 20 years ago. *I'm talking about FM HD. * FM was originally
designed for high fidelity. * Then we got stereo, a big improvement. * Now
it's time to go digital, another big improvement, with the added side
benefit of more channels in the same bandwidth.

I'd characterize it more as a 'want' on the part of the few, rather than a
'need' of the many.


Don't discount "wants". * The "wants' of the many also outweigh the "wants"
of the few. * *If more people want HD AM than want analog AM then guess who
wins? * If not, then things will stay the same. * That's the thing about
"majority rules".

Mike


No one wants HD Radio:

http://www.alexaholic.com/ibiquity.c...om+xmradio.com

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...ius%2C+podcast

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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But it's not a need at all... as AM radio serves everyone quite well at
the
present time without HD/IBOC.


No, it does not. Most AM listening is in over-55 year olds, and in the
under-45 group, less than 10% are using AM... even less as you move younger.
In a few more years, AM will essentially be an arcane service for retirees,
unless something is done to reverse the trend... and that something is HD:

I'd characterize it more as a 'want' on the part of the few, rather than a
'need' of the many.


AM is irrelevant to most Americans. More than 60% NEVER use it.


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I get about sixty nine XM music channels with my DirecTV thangy.I only
like the 40s on 4 Radio tb DirecTV channel for Radio tb music,because I
ONLY like the auld,auld,auld Music,and your opinion doesn't count with
me,Lardass edwennie.Screw all the rest of them!
cuhulin

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I am only sixty five years young.I know what kind of auld Music I like.
Jan Savitt on DirecTV XM channel rat now,,, The Things I Love.Great
Music!
cuhulin
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