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Internet Radio royalty rates affect HD Radio
"Internet radio royalty rates decided (Verdict: it ain't good news)"
"The death of Internet radio, and the damage done to HD Radio, could affect federal regulator's decision for the merger and the definition of the relevant market." "Smaller terrestrial radio stations will probably abandon online streaming as they'll be paying more for online streaming then they will for regular broadcasts (and for far less of an incoming revenue stream). This applies just the same for HD2 streaming." http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/in...good-news.html Adios, HD Radio ! |
Internet Radio royalty rates affect HD Radio
On Mar 5, 11:02 am, wrote:
"Internet radio royalty rates decided (Verdict: it ain't good news)" "The death of Internet radio, and the damage done to HD Radio, could affect federal regulator's decision for the merger and the definition of the relevant market." "Smaller terrestrial radio stations will probably abandon online streaming as they'll be paying more for online streaming then they will for regular broadcasts (and for far less of an incoming revenue stream). This applies just the same for HD2 streaming." http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/in...y-rates-decide... Adios, HD Radio ! LOL |
Internet Radio royalty rates affect HD Radio
On Mar 5, 2:09 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Mar 5, 11:02 am, wrote: "Internet radio royalty rates decided (Verdict: it ain't good news)" "The death of Internet radio, and the damage done to HD Radio, could affect federal regulator's decision for the merger and the definition of the relevant market." "Smaller terrestrial radio stations will probably abandon online streaming as they'll be paying more for online streaming then they will for regular broadcasts (and for far less of an incoming revenue stream). This applies just the same for HD2 streaming." http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/in...y-rates-decide... Adios, HD Radio ! LOL "More on the Copyright Royalty Board Decision on Internet Radio Music Royalties" "First, it is essential to understand exactly what this decision covers. The Board's decision covers only non-interactive webcasters operating pursuant to the statutory license. Our memo, here, discusses the statutory licensing scheme, and what a webcasting service must do to qualify to pay the royalties due under this statutory license. Essentially, a webcaster covered by this decision is one which operates like a radio station - where no listener can dictate which artists or songs he or she will hear (some limited degree of consumer influence is permitted, but a webcaster must comply with the restrictions set out in our memo)." http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/arch...royalties.html Yes, LOL ! :-) |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated snip How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream? The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio station level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if that's for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream.) Is this the end of Internet radio? Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.") http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml __________________________________________________ ________ Is this the end of HD radio? LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra available bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream. In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and TalkStations
"Guerite©" wrote: Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated snip How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream? The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio station level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if that's for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream.) Is this the end of Internet radio? Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.") http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml __________________________________________________ ________ Is this the end of HD radio? LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra available bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream. In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream. They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"dxAce" wrote in message ... "Guerite©" wrote: Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated snip How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream? The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio station level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if that's for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream.) Is this the end of Internet radio? Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.") http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml __________________________________________________ ________ Is this the end of HD radio? LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra available bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream. In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream. They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such as the internet, XM & Sirius. Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your generation used to do. The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's survival is HD! Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and TalkStations
"Guerite©" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... "Guerite©" wrote: Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated snip How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream? The principles are exactly the same, but at the individual radio station level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings and assuming 13 songs per hour, would be about $500,000... but if that's for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make that affordable? I'm not sure. (The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream.) Is this the end of Internet radio? Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.") http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml __________________________________________________ ________ Is this the end of HD radio? LOL - Hardly. Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay royalties for two radio stations. On the other hand this extra available bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD fidelity. Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream. In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream. They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such as the internet, XM & Sirius. Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your generation used to do. The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's survival is HD! As Dick Cheney says: Hogwash! dxAce Michigan USA |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and TalkStations
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. I'm waiting for the evolutionary development that ends QRM. Best you run along, boy. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. I'm waiting for the evolutionary development that ends QRM. When nearly nobody is listening, there is no QRN. HD is the only longshot for saving AM in the US. Other countries, like Canada, South Africa, Austria, etc., have basically given up on it. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and TalkStations
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. I'm waiting for the evolutionary development that ends QRM. When nearly nobody is listening, there is no QRN. QRN is natural interference, Edweenie. Like lightning. QRM is manmade intereference. Like IBOC. HD is the only longshot for saving AM in the US. Keep shilling, boy. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 5:35�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated snip How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream? The principles are exactly *the same, but at the individual radio station level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings and assuming 13 songs per hour, *would be about $500,000... but if that's for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make that affordable? *I'm not sure. *(The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream.) Is this the end of Internet radio? Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.") http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml __________________________________________________ ________ Is this the end of HD radio? LOL - Hardly. *Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay royalties for two radio stations. *On the other hand this extra available bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD fidelity. *Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream. In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. *HD radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream. Any Internet Radio station, that is acting as a non-interactive station, has to pay royalties, and this includes the HD channels - the HD channels are addressed here. Internet Radio stations will have to pay a royalty for every HD song that is streamed PER LISTENER, and there is no revenue coming in for the HD channels. Now, with HD radios not selling, this just gives new stations more reason not to sign up for HD Radio ! To quote: The ruling is on a "per play" basis - so Internet radio stations will have to pay the cost of one song to one listener - effective retroactively for 2006. There's also an additional fee of $500 per channel per year - but there's no clear definition of what a "channel" is (which could mean big problems for a service like Pandora which creates custom playlists for listeners). The rates to be paid a 2006 - $.0008 per performance 2007 - $.0011 per performance 2008 - $.0014 per performance 2009 - $.0018 per performance 2010 - $.0019 per performance http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/in...good-news.html "SUNUNU: FCC TECH MANDATES MUST BE BANNED" "The bill, which would be based on a Sununu amendment approved during Senate Commerce Committee action last year, would prevent the FCC from requiring or imposing a specific technology, technological standard, solution, or product on industry." http://sununu.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=267281 Now, Congress is going after the FCC temporarily authorizing HD Radio ! There is no consumer interest in HD Radio: http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...o=all&date=all http://www.alexaholic.com/ibiquity.c...om+xmradio.com LOL ! :-) |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 5:35�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated snip How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream? The principles are exactly *the same, but at the individual radio station level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings and assuming 13 songs per hour, *would be about $500,000... but if that's for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make that affordable? *I'm not sure. *(The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream.) Is this the end of Internet radio? Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.") http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml __________________________________________________ ________ Is this the end of HD radio? LOL - Hardly. *Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay royalties for two radio stations. *On the other hand this extra available bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD fidelity. *Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream. In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. *HD radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream. HD's channels are low-bitrate streams of the same repetitive programming, causing adjacent-channel interference and with only 60% the coverage of analog. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 5:54�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... "Guerite©" wrote: Propaganda Ejaculate Castrated snip How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream? The principles are exactly *the same, but at the individual radio station level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings and assuming 13 songs per hour, *would be about $500,000... but if that's for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make that affordable? *I'm not sure. *(The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream.) Is this the end of Internet radio? Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.") http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml __________________________________________________ ________ Is this the end of HD radio? LOL - Hardly. *Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay royalties for two radio stations. *On the other hand this extra available bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD fidelity. *Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream. In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. *HD radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream. They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such as the internet, XM & Sirius. Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. *They DO NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your generation used to do. The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer CD quality for FREE = HD! *The only means open for analog AM radio's survival is HD! Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Slight problem - consumers are not interested in HD Radio. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 6:11?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. HD Radios will never sell. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 6:29?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. I'm waiting for the evolutionary development that ends QRM. When nearly nobody is listening, there is no QRN. HD is the only longshot for saving AM in the US. Other countries, like Canada, South Africa, Austria, etc., have basically given up on it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - AM is alive-and-well, especially news/talk/sports: http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. I'm waiting for the evolutionary development that ends QRM. When nearly nobody is listening, there is no QRN. QRN is natural interference, Edweenie. Like lightning. Although that was a typo, it still applies. Interference is not interference if nobody listens and perceives that there is inteference. QRM is manmade intereference. Like IBOC. Funny, my sailboat in the early 60's was named QRM. HD is the only longshot for saving AM in the US. Keep shilling, boy. Ain't shilling if it is the truth. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
wrote in message ups.com... Any Internet Radio station, that is acting as a non-interactive station, has to pay royalties, and this includes the HD channels - the HD channels are addressed here. Internet Radio stations will have to pay a royalty for every HD song that is streamed PER LISTENER, and there is no revenue coming in for the HD channels. Now, with HD radios not selling, this just gives new stations more reason not to sign up for HD Radio ! HD is not broadcast via the internet. HD rates are separate, and DRM rates apply for digital radio broadcast, not Internet streams. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 5, 6:11?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. HD Radios will never sell. Ah, Wal-Mart put the first HD radio on sale this week. The momentum is building, and will continue over the next several years. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
wrote in message oups.com... AM is alive-and-well, especially news/talk/sports: No, it's not. And news/talk is moving to FM and proving that the format is still viable on that band, while it is moving out of the sales demos on AM (as the recent Tribune Broadcasting problems show clearly). |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
wrote They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such as the internet, XM & Sirius. Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your generation used to do. The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's survival is HD! Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog. Slight problem - consumers are not interested in HD Radio. Because consumers are ignorant and do not understand ANALog OR HD radio. They do not understand what is HD radio. http://www.HDRadio.com All they know is that their iPods and MP3 players give them what they want - FREE Digital quality music. YOU HAVE TO DELIVER WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS and it isn't analog. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
LOL ! :-) "The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream." Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog radio's coffin. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
wrote HD's channels are low-bitrate streams The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as they wish. They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can divy up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each channel. of the same repetitive programming If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast. causing adjacent-channel interference Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading whatsoever on HD radio. and with only 60% the coverage of analog. Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. Thus a power savings to the station. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"Guerite©" wrote in message ... LOL ! :-) "The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream." Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog radio's coffin. Today: HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores. Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about $190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power." |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"Guerite©" wrote in message ... and with only 60% the coverage of analog. Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. Thus a power savings to the station. And, as discussed, on FM the "used" coverage area is the 64 dbu curve. Over 80% of listening is in the 70 dbu, and the rest in the 64 to 69 dbu contour. The HD signal at least matches the 64 dbu useful and used contour. On AM, the HD signal is often listenable beyond the "used and useful" contour of the analog signal. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and TalkStations
David Frackelton Gleason. posing as 'Eduardo' Univisions number cruncher and Grand Master Shill wrote: "Guerite©" wrote in message ... LOL ! :-) "The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream." Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog radio's coffin. Today: HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores. Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about $190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power." Leave it to Wal-Mart to make QRM affordable. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason. posing as 'Eduardo' Univisions number cruncher and Grand Master Shill wrote: "Guerite©" wrote in message ... LOL ! :-) "The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream." Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog radio's coffin. Today: HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores. Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about $190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power." Leave it to Wal-Mart to make QRM affordable. It ain't QRM/N if nobody hears it. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"David Eduardo" wrote On AM, the HD signal is often listenable beyond the "used and useful" contour of the analog signal. My personal best HD DX catch on AM is about 1000 miles. It is incredible to hear a digital AM DX signal locked in on a HD receiver. Instant ID and far better reception than the analog signal. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and TalkStations
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason. posing as 'Eduardo' Univisions number cruncher and Grand Master Shill wrote: "Guerite©" wrote in message ... LOL ! :-) "The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream." Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog radio's coffin. Today: HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores. Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about $190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power." Leave it to Wal-Mart to make QRM affordable. It ain't QRM/N if nobody hears it. Damn, that's some fantasy world you live in. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
"dxAce" wrote in message ... It ain't QRM/N if nobody hears it. Damn, that's some fantasy world you live in. Nah, just reality. Creating interference to stations that get no listening in the interference zone is a small price to keep terrestrial radio competitive. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 6:47�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... Any Internet Radio station, that is acting as a non-interactive station, has to pay royalties, and this includes the HD channels - the HD channels are addressed here. *Internet Radio stations will have to pay a royalty for every HD song that is streamed PER LISTENER, and there is no revenue coming in for the HD channels. *Now, with HD radios not selling, this just gives new stations more reason not to sign up for HD Radio ! HD is not broadcast via the internet. HD rates are separate, and DRM rates apply for digital radio broadcast, not Internet streams. "Free HD Radio streaming online" http://digg.com/music/Free_HD_Radio_streaming_online Another ****ing lie ! :-) |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 6:48?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 5, 6:11?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip, portables are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way down due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper. HD Radios will never sell. Ah, Wal-Mart put the first HD radio on sale this week. The momentum is building, and will continue over the next several years.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Exploding the momentum myth of HD radio" http://www.hear2.com/2005/11/exploding_the_m.html :-) |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 6:50?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... AM is alive-and-well, especially news/talk/sports: No, it's not. And news/talk is moving to FM and proving that the format is still viable on that band, while it is moving out of the sales demos on AM (as the recent Tribune Broadcasting problems show clearly). AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well: http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html When they all go dark, I will let you know, but you will be out of a job ! |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 7:09�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
wrote They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such as the internet, XM & Sirius. Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your generation used to do. The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's survival is HD! Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog. Slight problem - consumers are not interested in HD Radio. Because consumers are ignorant and do not understand ANALog *OR HD radio. They do not understand what is HD radio.http://www.HDRadio.com All they know is that their iPods and MP3 players give them what they want - FREE Digital quality music. YOU HAVE TO DELIVER WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS and it isn't analog.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off" "In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey were aware of HD Radio on some level" http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/ Consumers know about HD Radio, but are not interested - you lose ! |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 7:09�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
wrote They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their listeners will abandon them. They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems such as the internet, XM & Sirius. Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen to songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your generation used to do. The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to offer CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's survival is HD! Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog. Slight problem - consumers are not interested in HD Radio. Because consumers are ignorant and do not understand ANALog *OR HD radio. They do not understand what is HD radio.http://www.HDRadio.com All they know is that their iPods and MP3 players give them what they want - FREE Digital quality music. YOU HAVE TO DELIVER WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS and it isn't analog.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off" "In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey were aware of HD Radio on some level" http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/ Consumers know about HD Radio, but are not interested - you lose ! |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 7:23�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
wrote HD's channels are low-bitrate streams The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as they wish. *They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can divy up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each channel. of the same repetitive programming If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast. causing adjacent-channel interference Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading whatsoever on HD radio. and with only 60% the coverage of analog. Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. *Thus a power savings to the station. HD/IBOC requires much more power than alaog broadcasting - you lose ! |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 7:34�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Guerite©" wrote in message ... LOL ! * :-) "The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream." Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog radio's coffin. Today: HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores. Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about $190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power." No one is buying HD radios: http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Custo...Review.do#tabs WOW - 500 consumer votes in 5 months ! LOL ! BAWAAAAAAHA ! |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
On Mar 5, 7:36�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Guerite©" wrote in message ... and with only 60% the coverage of analog. Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. *Thus a power savings to the station. And, as discussed, on FM the "used" coverage area is the 64 dbu curve. Over 80% of listening is in the 70 dbu, and the rest in the 64 to 69 dbu contour. The HD signal at least matches the 64 dbu useful and used contour. On AM, the HD signal is often listenable beyond the "used and useful" contour of the analog signal. HD/IBOC causes adjacent-channel interference and has only 60% the coverage of analog. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 5, 6:50?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... AM is alive-and-well, especially news/talk/sports: No, it's not. And news/talk is moving to FM and proving that the format is still viable on that band, while it is moving out of the sales demos on AM (as the recent Tribune Broadcasting problems show clearly). AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well: No, the news talk format is alive and well and moving to FM because AM is dying. |
Decision Has NO IMPACTon HD/Internet/XM/Sirius News and Talk Stations
wrote in message oups.com... On Mar 5, 7:23?pm, "Guerite?" wrote: wrote HD's channels are low-bitrate streams The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as they wish. They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can divy up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each channel. of the same repetitive programming If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast. causing adjacent-channel interference Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading whatsoever on HD radio. and with only 60% the coverage of analog. Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. Thus a power savings to the station. HD/IBOC requires much more power than alaog broadcasting - you lose ! Nope, it is a fraction of the power. A 50 kw AM uses a 500 watt HD signal on the same frequency |
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