Here's his rote response on radioinfo.com:
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Midwesterners have, on average, 8 to 12 FMs with strong signals to
depend on. Example: Traverse City,MI, where in the 60's the
surrounding counties had no night local service and had to listen to
Detroit or Chicago. Today, places like Leland and Kalkaska have
something like 14 signals to choose from, all on FM

Another example... used to be Moberly, MO had one local grade AM
signal, a Class IV. Now, there are a dozen FMs in all the surrounding
conunties that each put a pretty local signal in Moberly, too. From
one stations they have gone to a dozen, at least, and they are FMs,
listenable all day and all night, not AM skywavers.

Truckers have almost all gone satellite becasue they then do not have
to change stations every 100 or so miles...disaster info can be
handled on either AM or FM, whichever is left on the air.

In any case, there are two real issues:

1. Night usage of radio is about 1/4 the daytime usage. FOr AM, it is
1/5th. AM only accounts for 20% of all listening, and only about 10%
of under-45 listening.

2. There is very little listening to AMs outside their strongest
contours. There is scant evidence that HD would interrupt any
significant amount of listening in fringe areas, as there is not much
listening to fringe signals at all, on AM or FM.

3. HD was just launched for the consumer last June. It is way too soon
to decide if it will succeed or not, but hte indications are good. $99
receivers, third party chipsets, etc. Nearly 700 HD2 channels offer
new free programming, and there will be 2000 HD staitons on i by year
end. The FCC approval of HD and night AM HD may accelerate this. A
year after CDs were announced, I paid $1400 for my first CD player. HD
is way ahead in price and content.
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Numbers 2 and 3 are especially deep in **** - what is the point to all
this ? Does he really think a bunch of morons are going read radioinfo
and rec.radio.shortwave, believe him, then spread the word for HD
Radio ? Is he indirectly recruiting HD Radio shills ? We keep
slinging his **** back, but he keeps bouncing back. Any thoughts, as
to motive, mental disorders, etc ?

wrote in message
oups.com...

1. Night usage of radio is about 1/4 the daytime usage. FOr AM, it is
1/5th. AM only accounts for 20% of all listening, and only about 10%
of under-45 listening.

2. There is very little listening to AMs outside their strongest
contours. There is scant evidence that HD would interrupt any
significant amount of listening in fringe areas, as there is not much
listening to fringe signals at all, on AM or FM.

3. HD was just launched for the consumer last June. It is way too soon
to decide if it will succeed or not, but hte indications are good. $99
receivers, third party chipsets, etc. Nearly 700 HD2 channels offer
new free programming, and there will be 2000 HD staitons on i by year
end. The FCC approval of HD and night AM HD may accelerate this. A
year after CDs were announced, I paid $1400 for my first CD player. HD
is way ahead in price and content.
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Numbers 2 and 3 are especially deep in **** - what is the point to all
this ? Does he really think a bunch of morons are going read radioinfo
and rec.radio.shortwave, believe him, then spread the word for HD
Radio ? Is he indirectly recruiting HD Radio shills ? We keep
slinging his **** back, but he keeps bouncing back. Any thoughts, as
to motive, mental disorders, etc ?


I am just amazed that there are people here who actually believe the data
above is not true.

Arbitron surveys every county in the US, and nearly every county is part of
one metro or another. There is no evidence to support usage of AM or FM in
any measurable and statistically significant amount outside the stronger
contours... and none to support present day skywave usage. If there is no
listening, there is nothing being jammed, interrupted or covered up.

HD was "experimental" until last week. It only had an ad and promotion
campaign since June of last year. Nearly all of the significant stations in
the top 100 markets are on HD or licensed to begin soon... about 2000 in
total, making up about 1700 FM and 300 AM:

On Mar 26, 9:24�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...







1. Night usage of radio is about 1/4 the daytime usage. FOr AM, it is
1/5th. AM only accounts for 20% of all listening, and only about 10%
of under-45 listening.

2. There is very little listening to AMs outside their strongest
contours. There is scant evidence that HD would interrupt any
significant amount of listening in fringe areas, as there is not much
listening to fringe signals at all, on AM or FM.

3. HD was just launched for the consumer last June. It is way too soon
to decide if it will succeed or not, but hte indications are good. $99
receivers, third party chipsets, etc. Nearly 700 HD2 channels offer
new free programming, and there will be 2000 HD staitons on i by year
end. The FCC approval of HD and night AM HD may accelerate this. A
year after CDs were announced, I paid $1400 for my first CD player. HD
is way ahead in price and content.
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Numbers 2 and 3 are especially deep in **** - what is the point to all
this ? Does he really think a bunch of morons are going read radioinfo
and rec.radio.shortwave, believe him, then spread the word for HD
Radio ? *Is he indirectly recruiting HD Radio shills ? We keep
slinging his **** back, but he keeps bouncing back. Any thoughts, as
to motive, mental disorders, etc ?

I am just amazed that there are people here who actually believe the data
above is not true.

Arbitron surveys every county in the US, and nearly every county is part of
one metro or another. There is no evidence to support usage of AM or FM in
any measurable and statistically significant amount outside the stronger
contours... and none to support present day skywave usage. If there is no
listening, there is nothing being jammed, interrupted or covered up.

HD was "experimental" until last week. It only had an ad and promotion
campaign since June of last year. Nearly all of the significant stations in
the top 100 markets are on HD or licensed to begin soon... about 2000 in
total, making up about 1700 FM and 300 AM:- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No one gives a ****, about HD Radio:

http://www.statsaholic.com/hdradio.com

HD Radio has already been heavily promoted for over a year, yet
consumer interest remains flat:

"Are you waiting in line for your HD radio?"

"If you lower the price enough, folks will buy the radio. That's the
belief about HD radio that is being stoked in our industry. And, of
course, it's wrong. At any given price consumers will purchase an item
if the desire is there and if the value of that item equals or exceeds
the price being charged for it. This is basic economics. For example,
if you wanted to be first to own a Sony PlayStation 3 game system, you
waited on line for three days for the chance to spend $600 on one of
these babies when the doors opened at Best Buy last Friday. And you
did it gladly. No discounts required. Compare that with the industry's
attitude about selling new radio hardwa "Once the price drops below
$100, they'll fly off the shelves."

http://www.hear2.com/2006/11/are_you_waiting.html

Are you just stupid, or so desperate for HD Radio to save your dying
industry, that you post this crap over-and-over-again, like an
automated robot ?

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

1. Night usage of radio is about 1/4 the daytime usage. FOr AM, it is
1/5th. AM only accounts for 20% of all listening, and only about 10%
of under-45 listening.

2. There is very little listening to AMs outside their strongest
contours. There is scant evidence that HD would interrupt any
significant amount of listening in fringe areas, as there is not much
listening to fringe signals at all, on AM or FM.

3. HD was just launched for the consumer last June. It is way too soon
to decide if it will succeed or not, but hte indications are good. $99
receivers, third party chipsets, etc. Nearly 700 HD2 channels offer
new free programming, and there will be 2000 HD staitons on i by year
end. The FCC approval of HD and night AM HD may accelerate this. A
year after CDs were announced, I paid $1400 for my first CD player. HD
is way ahead in price and content.
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Numbers 2 and 3 are especially deep in **** - what is the point to all
this ? Does he really think a bunch of morons are going read radioinfo
and rec.radio.shortwave, believe him, then spread the word for HD
Radio ? Is he indirectly recruiting HD Radio shills ? We keep
slinging his **** back, but he keeps bouncing back. Any thoughts, as
to motive, mental disorders, etc ?


I am just amazed that there are people here who actually believe the data
above is not true.

Arbitron surveys every county in the US, and nearly every county is part of
one metro or another. There is no evidence to support usage of AM or FM in
any measurable and statistically significant amount outside the stronger
contours... and none to support present day skywave usage. If there is no
listening, there is nothing being jammed, interrupted or covered up.

HD was "experimental" until last week. It only had an ad and promotion
campaign since June of last year. Nearly all of the significant stations in
the top 100 markets are on HD or licensed to begin soon... about 2000 in
total, making up about 1700 FM and 300 AM:

Oh alright already. I'm just bull****ting above. Can't you guys take a
joke?

On Mar 26, 9:24�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...







1. Night usage of radio is about 1/4 the daytime usage. FOr AM, it is
1/5th. AM only accounts for 20% of all listening, and only about 10%
of under-45 listening.

2. There is very little listening to AMs outside their strongest
contours. There is scant evidence that HD would interrupt any
significant amount of listening in fringe areas, as there is not much
listening to fringe signals at all, on AM or FM.

3. HD was just launched for the consumer last June. It is way too soon
to decide if it will succeed or not, but hte indications are good. $99
receivers, third party chipsets, etc. Nearly 700 HD2 channels offer
new free programming, and there will be 2000 HD staitons on i by year
end. The FCC approval of HD and night AM HD may accelerate this. A
year after CDs were announced, I paid $1400 for my first CD player. HD
is way ahead in price and content.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-

Numbers 2 and 3 are especially deep in **** - what is the point to all
this ? Does he really think a bunch of morons are going read radioinfo
and rec.radio.shortwave, believe him, then spread the word for HD
Radio ? *Is he indirectly recruiting HD Radio shills ? We keep
slinging his **** back, but he keeps bouncing back. Any thoughts, as
to motive, mental disorders, etc ?

I am just amazed that there are people here who actually believe the data
above is not true.

Arbitron surveys every county in the US, and nearly every county is part of
one metro or another. There is no evidence to support usage of AM or FM in
any measurable and statistically significant amount outside the stronger
contours... and none to support present day skywave usage. If there is no
listening, there is nothing being jammed, interrupted or covered up.

HD was "experimental" until last week. It only had an ad and promotion
campaign since June of last year. Nearly all of the significant stations in
the top 100 markets are on HD or licensed to begin soon... about 2000 in
total, making up about 1700 FM and 300 AM:- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What you are really about, since IBLOCK will cut off fringe listening,
is attempting to justify this destuctive technology. The HD Radio
Cartel will find out, just how unimportant fringe listening is.

David Eduardo wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

1. Night usage of radio is about 1/4 the daytime usage. FOr AM, it is
1/5th. AM only accounts for 20% of all listening, and only about 10%
of under-45 listening.

2. There is very little listening to AMs outside their strongest
contours. There is scant evidence that HD would interrupt any
significant amount of listening in fringe areas, as there is not much
listening to fringe signals at all, on AM or FM.

3. HD was just launched for the consumer last June. It is way too soon
to decide if it will succeed or not, but hte indications are good. $99
receivers, third party chipsets, etc. Nearly 700 HD2 channels offer
new free programming, and there will be 2000 HD staitons on i by year
end. The FCC approval of HD and night AM HD may accelerate this. A
year after CDs were announced, I paid $1400 for my first CD player. HD
is way ahead in price and content.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Numbers 2 and 3 are especially deep in **** - what is the point to all
this ? Does he really think a bunch of morons are going read radioinfo
and rec.radio.shortwave, believe him, then spread the word for HD
Radio ? Is he indirectly recruiting HD Radio shills ? We keep
slinging his **** back, but he keeps bouncing back. Any thoughts, as
to motive, mental disorders, etc ?


I am just amazed that there are people here who actually believe the data
above is not true.

Arbitron surveys every county in the US, and nearly every county is part of
one metro or another. There is no evidence to support usage of AM or FM in
any measurable and statistically significant amount outside the stronger
contours... and none to support present day skywave usage. If there is no
listening, there is nothing being jammed, interrupted or covered up.

HD was "experimental" until last week. It only had an ad and promotion
campaign since June of last year. Nearly all of the significant stations in
the top 100 markets are on HD or licensed to begin soon... about 2000 in
total, making up about 1700 FM and 300 AM:

Hey, Edweenie, shove that HD/IBOC up your sorry prancing ass.

And please, try to prance elsewhere.

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:18:05 -0400, dxAce
wrote:



David Eduardo wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

1. Night usage of radio is about 1/4 the daytime usage. FOr AM, it is
1/5th. AM only accounts for 20% of all listening, and only about 10%
of under-45 listening.

2. There is very little listening to AMs outside their strongest
contours. There is scant evidence that HD would interrupt any
significant amount of listening in fringe areas, as there is not much
listening to fringe signals at all, on AM or FM.

3. HD was just launched for the consumer last June. It is way too soon
to decide if it will succeed or not, but hte indications are good. $99
receivers, third party chipsets, etc. Nearly 700 HD2 channels offer
new free programming, and there will be 2000 HD staitons on i by year
end. The FCC approval of HD and night AM HD may accelerate this. A
year after CDs were announced, I paid $1400 for my first CD player. HD
is way ahead in price and content.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Numbers 2 and 3 are especially deep in **** - what is the point to all
this ? Does he really think a bunch of morons are going read radioinfo
and rec.radio.shortwave, believe him, then spread the word for HD
Radio ? Is he indirectly recruiting HD Radio shills ? We keep
slinging his **** back, but he keeps bouncing back. Any thoughts, as
to motive, mental disorders, etc ?


I am just amazed that there are people here who actually believe the data
above is not true.

Arbitron surveys every county in the US, and nearly every county is part of
one metro or another. There is no evidence to support usage of AM or FM in
any measurable and statistically significant amount outside the stronger
contours... and none to support present day skywave usage. If there is no
listening, there is nothing being jammed, interrupted or covered up.

HD was "experimental" until last week. It only had an ad and promotion
campaign since June of last year. Nearly all of the significant stations in
the top 100 markets are on HD or licensed to begin soon... about 2000 in
total, making up about 1700 FM and 300 AM:

Hey, Edweenie, shove that HD/IBOC up your sorry prancing ass.

And please, try to prance elsewhere.


It's good that DE's posts have some thought put into them.

Me thinks your tinfoil hat is a wee bit askew dxace.

Now run along oh fat one.

dxAce wrote:

Hey, Edweenie, shove that HD/IBOC up your sorry prancing ass.

And please, try to prance elsewhere.



Grow up.



mike

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 26, 9:24?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Arbitron surveys every county in the US, and nearly every county is part
of
one metro or another. There is no evidence to support usage of AM or FM in
any measurable and statistically significant amount outside the stronger
contours... and none to support present day skywave usage. If there is no
listening, there is nothing being jammed, interrupted or covered up.

HD was "experimental" until last week. It only had an ad and promotion
campaign since June of last year. Nearly all of the significant stations
in
the top 100 markets are on HD or licensed to begin soon... about 2000 in
total, making up about 1700 FM and 300 AM:- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What you are really about, since IBLOCK will cut off fringe listening,
is attempting to justify this destuctive technology. The HD Radio
Cartel will find out, just how unimportant fringe listening is.

Nothing that fringe listeners can say or do will affect radio stations, as
radio stations know they are very few and, no matter how many they are, they
do not create any revenue which is what keeps us on the air.

"David Eduardo" wrote
I am just amazed that there are people here who actually believe the data
above is not true.

What did you expect from imbeciles who listen to idiots like Art Bell and
George Noray?