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dxAce May 7th 07 09:38 AM

(OT) : M II - Over-the-Line - Very Bad Form
 


I'm a dumbass Canuck II wrote:

RHF wrote:

M II - Over-the-Line - Very Bad Form ~ RHF

Sadly this is the type of Post that should have all
good Canadians distance themselves from you.


Re-posting the deviant's postings makes ME over the line? His account
was canceled after his Internet provider was informed of what he was doing.

You certainly have a short memory. If he keeps up the trash, every
posting he's ever made will be sent to his commanding officer. They have
a treatment program for drunkards.


You Canucks can determine by ones posts if one is drunk or not?

Best get a patent on that whiz bang technology!



KE4ODD May 7th 07 12:12 PM

(OT) : M II - Over-the-Line - Very Bad Form
 
On Mon, 07 May 2007 05:02:45 GMT, m II wrote:

RHF wrote:

M II - Over-the-Line - Very Bad Form ~ RHF

Sadly this is the type of Post that should have all
good Canadians distance themselves from you.



Re-posting the deviant's postings makes ME over the line? His account
was canceled after his Internet provider was informed of what he was doing.

You certainly have a short memory. If he keeps up the trash, every
posting he's ever made will be sent to his commanding officer. They have
a treatment program for drunkards.




mike


Hahaha....this is the same account dumbass! And quite posting those
made up lies.

Tell you mom happy Mothers Day for me.

[email protected][_2_] May 7th 07 04:14 PM

Canada hahaha!
 
On May 6, 8:23 pm, wrote:
You are the one that stated that I had to cite a source for a news
story! You add rules to the faq and now you want to dance your way out
of what you said?

Typical....


Nice try. I did not make any assrtion that you were required by any
rules to cite your source. You are fabricating another false and
untruthful statement. Typical.

If you re-read it, you will see that I made a simple, provably
correct, declarative sentence that said that you did not cite any
shortwave source. I also did acknowledge that you did cite Reuters as
your source (even if inadvertently when you did a mindless cut-and
paste job), so I certainly did not claim that you "had to cite a
source".

BTW, I am also NOT conceding your cliam that hearing it on SW is
sufficient to make it on-topic. I claim that your standards for being
on-topic are so low that every irrelevant topic is included, and that
is not how I read the FAQ.


ve3... May 7th 07 05:02 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
On May 6, 7:08 pm, RHF wrote:


Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!
But if you continue, you will be subjected to painful home truths
For example:

Fact #1... the US national debt is currently $8,819,577,906,180.
That's
8 trillion dollars. Every person in the US owes $29,221.76.
And that doesn't include the trillions coming due for Social Security
and Medicare.
You can't do business with people who don't have any money. But they
can send in their army and steal your stuff....but for how long?




dxAce May 7th 07 06:23 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- GrowOut Of The American Angst !
 


"ve3..." wrote:

On May 6, 7:08 pm, RHF wrote:


Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!
But if you continue, you will be subjected to painful home truths
For example:

Fact #1... the US national debt is currently $8,819,577,906,180.
That's
8 trillion dollars. Every person in the US owes $29,221.76.
And that doesn't include the trillions coming due for Social Security
and Medicare.
You can't do business with people who don't have any money. But they
can send in their army and steal your stuff....but for how long?


Whine, whine, whine... that's all you worthless Canucks can do.



D Peter Maus May 7th 07 06:48 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
ve3... wrote:
On May 6, 7:08 pm, RHF wrote:

Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!



As someone who works with Canadians every day, this statement is
simply not true.

There is not a day goes by that my Canadian colleagues take shots at
the US. To date, without provocation.

This is the appeasement mentality that has infected so many in the US
WRT Al Quaeda: Stop offending them and they'll be out buddies. Also very
much not true. Al Quaeda is not responding to our attacks, language, or
posturing....they're offended by our very existence. Ceasing military
action against Al Quaeda, it's agents and assigns, will not stop Al
Quaeda from planning and attempting to execute terrorism on US soil, it
will embolden them to escalate. We know this by their very words. As
promised by Al Quaeda upper echelons. They will only be satisfied by our
cessation of existence. Nothing less.

This is not to compare Canadians with Al Quaeda. That would be
absurd. Canadians are simply not committed enough to anything to take a
conflict beyond nasty language.

But the appeasement mentality is very similar in both cases.
Attempting to alter behaviour outside their control with implications
that aggressors/critics will back off if we become what they suggest.

Nice thought, but tragically ill informed. And weak beyond the will
to survive. Appeasement only emboldens the critics. Appeasement only
emboldens the aggressors.

The only way to deal with them is to let the critics pound sand.
They'll be critical whether we respond to them or not. It is the nature
of criticism that the critic fires the first salvo. And then implores
the criticized to stop criticizing the critics to make them stop.

Check the history of the group. The Canadians started their
criticism, ragging, and dismissive noise before anyone on this side of
the border ever said anything about them. Even DXAce hadn't made a
comment about Cana-DUH until several anti-US threads had developed.

And the only way to deal with the aggressors is to let them, their
agents and assigns, die for their country. Because, they, too, fired the
first salvoes. And then implored us to stop responding. And in that
conflict, words and appeasement are tools of surrender, and demise.






But if you continue, you will be subjected to painful home truths
For example:

Fact #1... the US national debt is currently $8,819,577,906,180.
That's
8 trillion dollars. Every person in the US owes $29,221.76.
And that doesn't include the trillions coming due for Social Security
and Medicare.
You can't do business with people who don't have any money. But they
can send in their army and steal your stuff....but for how long?



Interesting you should bring that up. I work directly with two
Canadian firms which took their stuggling business across the border
into the US where they flourished.

Count the number of Canadian firms which have moved branches, or
their entirety, to the US for their success.

If you really understood economics, you'd shut your pie hole.

And go back to enjoying the beneficence with which your economy
exists hand-in-glove with ours.




[email protected] May 7th 07 07:33 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-G...
 
I am and always have been mostly a happy go lucky sort of a dude.I am
not knocking Canada and Canadians per se.I have some good Canadian
Friends who live in Canada.
Sure is fun to pick on some Canadians though,that's for sure :{)
cuhulin


ve3... May 7th 07 08:07 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
On May 7, 1:23 pm, dxAce wrote:
"ve3..." wrote:
On May 6, 7:08 pm, RHF wrote:


Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!
But if you continue, you will be subjected to painful home truths
For example:


Fact #1... the US national debt is currently $8,819,577,906,180.
That's
8 trillion dollars. Every person in the US owes $29,221.76.
And that doesn't include the trillions coming due for Social Security
and Medicare.
You can't do business with people who don't have any money. But they
can send in their army and steal your stuff....but for how long?


Whine, whine, whine... that's all you worthless Canucks can do.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"""""""""""''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
You're the one who is whining, I am just stating facts



ve3... May 7th 07 09:03 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
On May 7, 1:48 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!

....................................
As someone who works with Canadians every day, this statement is
simply not true.
There is not a day goes by that my Canadian colleagues take shots at the US. To date, without provocation.


Interesting. Are you working in Canada or the US? How come there are
so many Canadians in your work group? What kind of shots do they take?

.....................................
This is not to compare Canadians with Al Quaeda. That would be
absurd. Canadians are simply not committed enough to anything to take a conflict beyond nasty language.


This is an absurd statement. Canadians are currently fighting in
Afghanistan and were very active in Korea and WW II. They did not
fight in Iraq because the US invaded in defiance of the UN. The
Afghanistan war is sanctioned by the UN.


Check the history of the group. The Canadians started their
criticism, ragging, and dismissive noise before anyone on this side of
the border ever said anything about them. Even DXAce hadn't made a
comment about Cana-DUH until several anti-US threads had developed.


I seem to have come along in the middle of this broughaha and
don't know the origins. That's the trouble with these vendettas. They
develop a life of their own. Rather like the Iraq war (Mission
Accomplished) which is not going as planned.


If you really understood economics, you'd shut your pie hole.


I may not be an Alan Greenspan, or better a Kenneth Galbraith, but
some facts about the US economy are worrisome. Some facts from the pie
hole:

1. The US national debt is clse to 8 trillion dollars and rising
rapidly.
2. The foreign trade deficit is about 800 billion dollars this year.
3. The manufacturing base of the US has been sent to China
4. The savings rate is negative for the first time in 70 years.
5. The value of the US dollar has dropped from $1.35 to the Euro to
0.81 . Gold is similar.
6. There has been no provision for future Social Security and
Medicare
7. Wages have been stagnant or declining since 1975.
8. The official inflation rate is a lie. True inflation is about 8%
9. China holds about 1 trillion dollars in US debt.

That is just a few items off the top of my head. Do you disagree with
any of them?
..
I have ignored your geopolitical comments as they are not germane to
our discussion.


dxAce May 7th 07 09:19 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- GrowOut Of The American Angst !
 


"ve3..." wrote:

On May 7, 1:48 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!

....................................
As someone who works with Canadians every day, this statement is
simply not true.
There is not a day goes by that my Canadian colleagues take shots at the US. To date, without provocation.


Interesting. Are you working in Canada or the US? How come there are
so many Canadians in your work group? What kind of shots do they take?

.....................................
This is not to compare Canadians with Al Quaeda. That would be
absurd. Canadians are simply not committed enough to anything to take a conflict beyond nasty language.


This is an absurd statement. Canadians are currently fighting in
Afghanistan and were very active in Korea and WW II. They did not
fight in Iraq because the US invaded in defiance of the UN. The
Afghanistan war is sanctioned by the UN.

Check the history of the group. The Canadians started their
criticism, ragging, and dismissive noise before anyone on this side of
the border ever said anything about them. Even DXAce hadn't made a
comment about Cana-DUH until several anti-US threads had developed.


I seem to have come along in the middle of this broughaha and
don't know the origins. That's the trouble with these vendettas. They
develop a life of their own. Rather like the Iraq war (Mission
Accomplished) which is not going as planned.


If you really understood economics, you'd shut your pie hole.


I may not be an Alan Greenspan, or better a Kenneth Galbraith, but
some facts about the US economy are worrisome. Some facts from the pie
hole:

1. The US national debt is clse to 8 trillion dollars and rising
rapidly.
2. The foreign trade deficit is about 800 billion dollars this year.
3. The manufacturing base of the US has been sent to China
4. The savings rate is negative for the first time in 70 years.
5. The value of the US dollar has dropped from $1.35 to the Euro to
0.81 . Gold is similar.
6. There has been no provision for future Social Security and
Medicare
7. Wages have been stagnant or declining since 1975.
8. The official inflation rate is a lie. True inflation is about 8%
9. China holds about 1 trillion dollars in US debt.


If we fail, Canuckystan will fail!

Yeeeeeeee Ha!



Eric F. Richards May 7th 07 11:56 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
"ve3..." wrote:

On May 7, 1:48 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!

....................................
As someone who works with Canadians every day, this statement is
simply not true.
There is not a day goes by that my Canadian colleagues take shots at the US. To date, without provocation.


Interesting. Are you working in Canada or the US? How come there are
so many Canadians in your work group? What kind of shots do they take?


I can't and won't speak for Peter, but I can speak for myself. I live
on the Front Range of Colorado. I was working a table at a hamfest
when a couple came up to me, he with a Canadian accent. It turns out
he was stationed at Cheyenne Mountain -- a joint US/Canadian command
-- and was also an active radio enthusiast.

I asked him how he was finding his experience in America to be, and
his wife just *exploded* on me about how stupid Americans are and a
stream of vile insults. He had to bodily remove her from the hamfest
site and came back to apologize.

I don't know what awful experience she had that set her off -- if any
-- but my experience with her sure left an impression on *me*.

....of course, there are the internet-tough-guys here as well --
mII/Michael Moore is mild. The worst was a guy known only as "Jim"
who I dubbed "Psycho Jim," who spent all his time here exulting about
how "Yanks" died in the Twin Towers and swearing like a Tourette's
patient.

....as for you, well, if you want to come here or are here, welcome!
Please do remember that you are a guest and act accordingly -- I do
the same when I'm in your fine country, and am as embarrassed by the
"Ugly Americans" as you should be by the "insecure Canadians" who spew
here.


--
Eric F. Richards

"Don't destroy the Earth! That's where I keep all of my stuff!"
- Squidd on
www.fark.com

RHF May 8th 07 12:26 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
On May 7, 3:56 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote:
"ve3..." wrote:
On May 7, 1:48 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!
....................................
As someone who works with Canadians every day, this statement is
simply not true.
There is not a day goes by that my Canadian colleagues take shots at the US. To date, without provocation.


Interesting. Are you working in Canada or the US? How come there are
so many Canadians in your work group? What kind of shots do they take?


I can't and won't speak for Peter, but I can speak for myself. I live
on the Front Range of Colorado. I was working a table at a hamfest
when a couple came up to me, he with a Canadian accent. It turns out
he was stationed at Cheyenne Mountain -- a joint US/Canadian command
-- and was also an active radio enthusiast.

I asked him how he was finding his experience in America to be, and
his wife just *exploded* on me about how stupid Americans are and a
stream of vile insults. He had to bodily remove her from the hamfest
site and came back to apologize.

I don't know what awful experience she had that set her off -- if any
-- but my experience with her sure left an impression on *me*.

...of course, there are the internet-tough-guys here as well --
mII/Michael Moore is mild. The worst was a guy known only as "Jim"
who I dubbed "Psycho Jim," who spent all his time here exulting about
how "Yanks" died in the Twin Towers and swearing like a Tourette's
patient.

...as for you, well, if you want to come here or are here, welcome!
Please do remember that you are a guest and act accordingly -- I do
the same when I'm in your fine country, and am as embarrassed by the
"Ugly Americans" as you should be by the "insecure Canadians" who spew
here.

--
Eric F. Richards

"Don't destroy the Earth! That's where I keep all of my stuff!"
- Squidd onwww.fark.com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


EFR - Sounds like his Wife was unhappy
about being Stationed in the USA -and-
almost created a Tour-Ending-Event for
her Husband. ~ RHF

RHF May 8th 07 12:33 AM

(OT) : Stolen-oil-R-US
 
On May 6, 9:57 pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]


Attacking and destroying sovereign nations for oil is your business?
Pretty shameful business to be in. Why not try PAYING for it instead of
theft? I can hardly wait until you invade Canada for the WATER.

mike


M II - It's a Mean World Out There -and- They Big Boys
play the Game of Hardball with the Heads of the Meek.
~ RHF

D Peter Maus May 8th 07 12:54 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
ve3... wrote:
On May 7, 1:48 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!

....................................
As someone who works with Canadians every day, this statement is
simply not true.
There is not a day goes by that my Canadian colleagues take shots at the US. To date, without provocation.


Interesting. Are you working in Canada or the US? How come there are
so many Canadians in your work group? What kind of shots do they take?



I'm in the US. My Canadian colleagues are north of the border.

They take the same shots you do. And will soon be free of my
business as a result.




.....................................
This is not to compare Canadians with Al Quaeda. That would be
absurd. Canadians are simply not committed enough to anything to take a conflict beyond nasty language.


This is an absurd statement. Canadians are currently fighting in
Afghanistan and were very active in Korea and WW II. They did not
fight in Iraq because the US invaded in defiance of the UN. The
Afghanistan war is sanctioned by the UN.




UN approval of warfare is as absurd as the Saskatchewan Navy.
That the UN sanctioned Afghanistan and not Iraq is laughable. Especially
in light of the number of UN resolutions defied by Iraq, and the direct
call for military action in response to non compliance within them.

And don't get too high about Canadian commitment. Comments by
your PM, and parliamentary candidates have been far less than supportive
in either theatre. But where the heavy lifting is to be done, is not
where Canadian troops are to be found.

And be sure to let me know when you come up with a single example
where Canadian troops led the fight, instead of following the path
blazed by US Marines.









Check the history of the group. The Canadians started their
criticism, ragging, and dismissive noise before anyone on this side of
the border ever said anything about them. Even DXAce hadn't made a
comment about Cana-DUH until several anti-US threads had developed.


I seem to have come along in the middle of this broughaha and
don't know the origins. That's the trouble with these vendettas. They
develop a life of their own. Rather like the Iraq war (Mission
Accomplished) which is not going as planned.



Typical high horse crack of someone who doesn't have the stomach
for taking the fight to the enemy. No war in the history of mankind, or
the knuckledraggers that preceded him has gone according to plan. To
expect anything like it is to live in a fantasy of media haze, where no
problem can't be solved in an hour, with 6 commercial breaks, and blood
comes out of a bottle from the props department.

Hard reality: War is messy. And it's ugly. And it's hell on
earth. But as undesireable as it may be, sometimes it is necessary. And
in the case of an enemy that will be satisfied only with American
deaths, anything less than lethal response will not be respected.

Anyone that doesn't like it can do without our commerce, and our
aid.





If you really understood economics, you'd shut your pie hole.


I may not be an Alan Greenspan, or better a Kenneth Galbraith, but
some facts about the US economy are worrisome. Some facts from the pie
hole:

1. The US national debt is clse to 8 trillion dollars and rising
rapidly.
2. The foreign trade deficit is about 800 billion dollars this year.
3. The manufacturing base of the US has been sent to China
4. The savings rate is negative for the first time in 70 years.
5. The value of the US dollar has dropped from $1.35 to the Euro to
0.81 . Gold is similar.
6. There has been no provision for future Social Security and
Medicare
7. Wages have been stagnant or declining since 1975.
8. The official inflation rate is a lie. True inflation is about 8%
9. China holds about 1 trillion dollars in US debt.

That is just a few items off the top of my head. Do you disagree with
any of them?



Not a one.

But the facts are not within context.

In a global economy, trade deficits do not exist. US has a
deficit in context of the US only. Globally, we import, someone exports
one commodity imports another from a third party. The third party
exports and imports from fourth and fifth parties. Each nation has their
own trade deficits and surplusses. Money changes hands all the way
around. Globally, the trade balance is zero. In which case, the real
money to be made is by the nation that conducts the most volume. That's
the US. Closely followed by Japan, and soon China.

China's percentage of US debt is offset by China's own debts
globally, much of which comes around to surplusses held by the US from
other countries doing business with China.

If each nation's trade was in balance, the global economy would
be static. In that, there is no growth. For there to be growth in an
economy, there has to be some debt, some imbalance to be filled.

As each nation's economy ebbs and flows economic opportunities
are formed. Here's where Capitalism has the advantage. Capitalism
permits individuals, or individual companies to seize opportunities,
fill needs and move with the economic ebb and flow. This generates
wealth, which generates further economic opportunity. If not stifled by
extreme income redistribution, the result is general economic boom.

Regarding the manufacturing base....some manufacturing jobs
have been sent to China, true. Quite a number, actually. Then, again,
look at the number of high wage, high skill manufacturing jobs moving
INTO the US from other nations. Germany is building more cars here than
in Germany, now. Japan is investing trillions in manufacturing in the
US. Honda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Mazda, to name but 5 Japanese
firms, have built plants in the US for manufacture here, and are
building more. Hyundai is building not one, but two major plants in the
US. Mercedes is building a second plant in the US as is BMW.

With those jobs come construction and engineering jobs,
manufacturing machine tool building jobs. Ancillary parts manufacturing
jobs. Accessory manufacturing jobs. As well as boutique manufacturing
jobs, like the building of aftermarket iPod interfaces for factory sound
systems by Peripheral and a half dozen more companies cashing in on the
iPod/vehicle phenomenon.

With those jobs come manufacturing jobs in other countries
providing parts and supplies, as well as consuming products for
inclusion in their own market places.

Looking at the jobs exiting the US to China, but not the
number of jobs moving to, and through other countries, including the US
is disingenuous at best. Misleading, and dishonest at worst.

Again, typical of the man on the high horse.


There never was a provision for Social Security or Medicare.
By design of Roosevelt himself, they were to be temporary solutions to a
Depresssion Era economy during war time. NOT long term solutions. Far,
Far better solutions are to be found in the private sector than those
provided by the Goverment.

Savings are, indeed, in the negative for the first time in
history. This owing to more active income provision for retirement.
Investments are replacing savings. By the recommendations of money
managers, and financial analysts themselves, who have been pointing out
for decades that 9% in the market will double your money in 10 years.
While 3% in savings will not.

Most households own stocks, now, rather than savings. Again,
looking at the individual line item, rather than the full statement,
tells only a fraction of the story.


.
I have ignored your geopolitical comments as they are not germane to
our discussion.



Uh huh....of course. The debate is over. And the science is
settled,eh? Again, typical of the man on the high horse...where
defense is not possible, declare discussion at an end.


Must be related to AlGore.







RHF May 8th 07 12:58 AM

(OT) : Oh Canada ! - We Love You
 
On May 7, 12:56Â*am, dxAce wrote:
m II wrote:
RHF wrote:


Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]


Attacking and destroying sovereign nations for oil is your business?
Pretty shameful business to be in. Why not try PAYING for it instead of
theft? I can hardly wait until you invade Canada for the WATER.


It must be bad water! Look what it did to you all.


M II - Invade Canada for the Water - Haaaaaaaaaaa !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...-Canada_border
Kindly do a Geography Review of the US/Canadian
Border - A good deal of Canada's Water flows freely
into the USA.

But if you insist we can resurrect 54° 40′ Or Fight !
http://geography.about.com/od/politi...440orfight.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_boundary_dispute
From Sea-to-Shining-Sea - God {Allah} Bless America

and our future Canadian Dominions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada
Why - American's Love Canada and Canadians
so much {How Much . . . } We Want to Make
You All Part of the USA and Americans too.
Plus we have 12-20 Million Illegal Aliens from
Mexico that will help to Populate all those empty
spaces in Canada.

oh canada ! - we love you ~ RHF
.
.
.. .


RHF May 8th 07 01:13 AM

Being a Shortwave Radio Listener's (SWL) Forum - We can Talk About; Debate and Argue About All Things Shortwave
 
On May 7, 9:02 am, "ve3..." wrote:
On May 6, 7:08 pm, RHF wrote:

Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!
But if you continue, you will be subjected to painful home truths
For example:

Fact #1... the US national debt is currently $8,819,577,906,180.
That's
8 trillion dollars. Every person in the US owes $29,221.76.
And that doesn't include the trillions coming due for Social Security
and Medicare.
You can't do business with people who don't have any money. But they
can send in their army and steal your stuff....but for how long?


VE3,

You are quickly evolving and changing from a Canadian
into a Can-A-Duh-Ian : Posting Anti-American 'factoids'
and Preaching Hate for Americans.

World Problems are World Problems and they simply
can not be Solved in this NewsGroup by any of us.

However, this Being a Shortwave Radio Listener's (SWL)
Forum - We can Talk About; Debate and Argue About
All Things Shortwave while simply enjoying ourselves
and having fun Listening to Our Radios.

ve3 - please get-over-it - i like you better as a canadian
and a shortwave listener ~ RHF

Tommy Tootles May 8th 07 03:12 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
ve3... wrote:
On May 7, 1:48 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
ve3... wrote:


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""
If you really want Canadians to cease their comments on US life, all
you have to do is stop posting anti-Canadian slanders on this website.
Then we will go away and tend to our own affairs. It is very simple.
Just stop!

....................................
As someone who works with Canadians every day, this statement is
simply not true.
There is not a day goes by that my Canadian colleagues take shots at the US. To date, without provocation.


Interesting. Are you working in Canada or the US? How come there are
so many Canadians in your work group? What kind of shots do they take?
.....................................
This is not to compare Canadians with Al Quaeda. That would be
absurd. Canadians are simply not committed enough to anything to take a conflict beyond nasty language.


This is an absurd statement. Canadians are currently fighting in
Afghanistan and were very active in Korea and WW II. They did not
fight in Iraq because the US invaded in defiance of the UN. The
Afghanistan war is sanctioned by the UN.


Check the history of the group. The Canadians started their
criticism, ragging, and dismissive noise before anyone on this side of
the border ever said anything about them. Even DXAce hadn't made a
comment about Cana-DUH until several anti-US threads had developed.


I seem to have come along in the middle of this broughaha and
don't know the origins. That's the trouble with these vendettas. They
develop a life of their own. Rather like the Iraq war (Mission
Accomplished) which is not going as planned.


If you really understood economics, you'd shut your pie hole.


I may not be an Alan Greenspan, or better a Kenneth Galbraith, but
some facts about the US economy are worrisome. Some facts from the pie
hole:

1. The US national debt is clse to 8 trillion dollars and rising
rapidly.
2. The foreign trade deficit is about 800 billion dollars this year.
3. The manufacturing base of the US has been sent to China
4. The savings rate is negative for the first time in 70 years.
5. The value of the US dollar has dropped from $1.35 to the Euro to
0.81 . Gold is similar.
6. There has been no provision for future Social Security and
Medicare
7. Wages have been stagnant or declining since 1975.
8. The official inflation rate is a lie. True inflation is about 8%
9. China holds about 1 trillion dollars in US debt.

That is just a few items off the top of my head. Do you disagree with
any of them?


Interesting (and to the best of my knowledge) all true statements. If
you are expecting any kind of *factual* rebuttal from the name-callers
however, please don't hold your breath--unless you want to suffocate.

Tommy Tootles May 8th 07 03:13 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
Eric F. Richards wrote:


...as for you, well, if you want to come here or are here, welcome!
Please do remember that you are a guest and act accordingly -- I do
the same when I'm in your fine country, and am as embarrassed by the
"Ugly Americans" as you should be by the "insecure Canadians" who spew
here.


Eric,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. My only question for you is are the
Canadians "insecure and spewing" or just telling what *they* perceive as
(unpleasant) truths that *we* may not enjoy hearing???

Tommy Tootles May 8th 07 03:16 AM

Being a Shortwave Radio Listener's (SWL) Forum - We can TalkAbout; Debate and Argue About All Things Shortwave
 

ve3...wrote:


But if you continue, you will be subjected to painful home truths
For example:

Fact #1... the US national debt is currently $8,819,577,906,180.
That's 8 trillion dollars. Every person in the US owes $29,221.76.
And that doesn't include the trillions coming due for Social
Security and Medicare.


RHF wrote:

VE3,

You are quickly evolving and changing from a Canadian into a
Can-A-Duh-Ian : Posting Anti-American 'factoids'


They are legitimate facts of public record, not "factoids". Nor are they
anti-American, just plain, basic, actual financial facts.

and Preaching Hate for Americans.


Where do you see the hate? They are just facts, possibly unpleasant for
you to hear, but certainly not "hate"...sometimes the truth hurts.
Accept that and quit being such a cry-baby.

m II May 8th 07 04:12 AM

(OT) : M II - Over-the-Line - Very Bad Form
 
RHF wrote:

Sadly this is the type of Post that should have all
good Canadians distance themselves from you.



The insincere moron has already apologized once for his stupidity. I,
like an idiot, accepted it. I should have known better. The prick has no
honour.


================================================== ==

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: "beerbarrel"
Date: 9 Dec 2005 07:46:44 -0800
Local: Fri, Dec 9 2005 10:46 am
Subject: Last post that I will make for awhile....


It's to mII. I apologize to you and your mother for that posts that I
made. I also apologize to and Cancer victims that I might have upset.
Please forgive me for that attacks...

Tracy
================================================== ===


http://tinyurl.com/3xjpmn


Eric F. Richards May 8th 07 04:16 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
Tommy Tootles wrote:

Eric F. Richards wrote:


...as for you, well, if you want to come here or are here, welcome!
Please do remember that you are a guest and act accordingly -- I do
the same when I'm in your fine country, and am as embarrassed by the
"Ugly Americans" as you should be by the "insecure Canadians" who spew
here.


Eric,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. My only question for you is are the
Canadians "insecure and spewing" or just telling what *they* perceive as
(unpleasant) truths that *we* may not enjoy hearing???


I don't know.

Things like the Canadian content rule with Canadian broadcasters, and
a joke circulating years ago about a contest to fill in the blank: "As
Canadian as _____" had the winner "As Canadian as possible under the
circumstances." -- those two things would lead me to believe in an
undercurrent of insecurity, or at least resentment at the American
influence.

I haven't *lived* in Canada, though, so I don't think I can say with
any real evidence one way or the other.

--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Cato May 8th 07 05:33 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
Eric F. Richards wrote:

I asked him how he was finding his experience in America to be, and
his wife just *exploded* on me about how stupid Americans are and a
stream of vile insults. He had to bodily remove her from the hamfest
site and came back to apologize.

Cato replys: As a Canadian, I am sorry that you had such a bad
experience with one of my fellow citizens. For what it is worth, I'm
sorry that that incident took place. In all my times and travels in
your country, I like to think that I behaved myself in a civilized
fashion.( Except for a couple of times I might have got drunk camping
out down in the Florida Keys with some friends. But at least we had a
good time, and everyone was happy, and no ones feelings got hurt. They
were good times.):-)

As for the insult about the twin towers, it shows the ignorence of
my fellow Canadians that the Americans and citizens of other countries
that died that day were all innoccent people just going to work.
Canadian citizens that worked there also died that day. A temencous
number of children lost their mothers and fathers on that black day.
On that day, when my wife woke me up to tell me to watch what was
happening on TV, she was in tears, and I was in a state of unbelieving
shock at the horror on the screen.

Not all Canadians are stupid and ignorant. I think what you will
find is that, primarily, it is Canadian Liberals & Socialists,
(supporters of our N.D.P. party) who are critical of the U.S to the
point of idiotic hatred. And I think a lot of it is envy at the
success of the U.S., and their saddness at the failure of socialism
around the world.

Not all Canadians are liberal or socialist statists, that believe
that government is the solution. There are many of us that believe
that government is the problem.

My only hope is that most Americans do not forget the principles
on which their country was founded. Because I see your freedoms very
slowly slipping away like ours has been doing. For at least fifty
years now. Your country, with all your successes, and your failures,
is still the beacon of hope in freedom for oppressed people around the
world. But you must all be on your guard. There are many that want to
bring you down. And not just from outside the U.S., But as you know,
also from within. By U.S. citizens that hate the freedoms embodied in
the Declaration and Constitution.
Why would so many people try to get into the States to stay? Either
legally, and waiting their turn, or illegally, and hoping not to get
caught. It is because living in America is better then where they came
from.

Ya, a lot of people around the world put the United States down.
And ya, sometimes the U.S. goofs up on something, or elects a goofy
president.
Well hell, I can think of a number of times that we Canadians
elected goofy Prime Ministers too! We all goof up now and then if we
look at ourselves honestly. Nobody, and no country is perfect. Their
ain't no such animal.

But all in all, the U.S. has stood for the good and right over the
years, and anytime that some nation or people anywhere around the
world has had a disaster, the U.S. has been there with the most help,
and the quickest. The American people generously reach into their
pockets to help those in need around the world without asking for
thanks. I'm not sure that any other country or people is as generous.

Who else has ever done so much to help their fomer enemies? Re-
building Germany, Italy and Japan after WW II. Rebuilding Europe. How
much did the Soviet Union help the people of Eastern Germany and
Eastern Europe?

Ya, I happen to like the U.S., and the people of the U.S. even if
I sometimes don't like a particular President. Yep, there are some
Americans who are stupid jerks. And there are Canadians who are stupid
jerks, and British, German, Korean etc.
Stupidity and ignorence know no boundaries or nationality. They are
everywhere. I am a Canadian who is damn glad to have the United States
as neighbors. And I am really proud to call the Americans that I know,
"my good friends."

Cato








dxAce May 8th 07 09:56 AM

(OT) : M II - Over-the-Line - Very Bad Form
 


m II wrote:

RHF wrote:

Sadly this is the type of Post that should have all
good Canadians distance themselves from you.


The insincere moron has already apologized once for his stupidity. I,
like an idiot, accepted it.


One thing is certain, Canucky Boy.. You are indeed an idiot.



Tommy Tootles May 8th 07 01:24 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
Cato wrote:

Not all Canadians are liberal or socialist statists, that believe
that government is the solution. There are many of us that believe
that government is the problem.


A big Amen! to that, Brother...

Never has the phrase "I love my country but I fear my government" been
so true.

Eric F. Richards May 8th 07 02:17 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 
Cato wrote:

Cato replys: As a Canadian, I am sorry that you had such a bad
experience with one of my fellow citizens. For what it is worth, I'm
sorry that that incident took place. [...]


While your sentiments are appreciated, they somewhat miss the point.

The point is that for some reason some Canadians feel the need to
constantly make negative comments about the U.S. I'm not talking
about just mouth-breathers like mII here but about very intelligent,
well-travelled people, who feel it is normal to come to the U.S. and
make derogatory comments.

To me it is the equivalent of going to dinner at a friend's house and
then spending time there making fun of his wife's ass.

It just isn't how you behave as a guest!

Canada and the U.S. are different. A citizen from one, living in the
other, is bound to get some cultural surprises now and then. But it's
hardly the sort of thing that should generate the venom that it does.

Gawd knows that we in the U.S. have our problems. But, by and large,
we try to address them. Unfortunately, those who *don't* try to
address them tend to be the loudest and most ignorant of the bunch.

Fortunately, they're usually quiet unless you poke them with a stick.
The Canadian counterparts, by contrast, like being loud, ignorant, and
enjoy poking at people with a stick.

I, personally, am sick and tired of being poked with a stick! So,
while I don't spew stuff about "Canaduh" and so on, it does get old.

--
Eric F. Richards

"This book reads like a headache on paper."
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/readi...one/index.html

[email protected] May 8th 07 05:51 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Gr...
 
Alberta,Canada and what's that other Province,Manitoba? are sort of Pro
America.I reckon Montana sort of rubs off on them.
www.montanasnews.com
cuhulin



[email protected] May 8th 07 06:24 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Gr...
 
YaHohhhhhhhh little fishy,,,, don't cryyyy,,,, don't cryyyyy,,,,,,
YaHohhhhhhhhh little fishy,,,,,, don't cryyyyyyyyy,,, don't
cryyyyyyyy,,,,,,,,

Spencer Tracy in that old movie, Captains Courageous,,,,, ahhsangin and
ahhcrankin on that old musical instrument.
I own some old,old musical instruments.I wish I owned one like Spencer
Tracy was ahhsangin and ahhcrankin on.
www.devilfinder.com Spencer Tracy Movies
http://www.angelfire.com/ri2/rebecca...s/spencer.html
cuhulin


Cato May 8th 07 10:19 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Gr...
 


cuhulin wrote:
Alberta,Canada and what's that other
Province,Manitoba? are sort of Pro
America.I reckon Montana sort of rubs off on them.
www.montanasnews.com

Cato replys: Ya. Alberta more then any other province. They have
what some people call an "American Conservative Mind-set." They see
themselves as sort of a Canadian Texas. Albertans tend to be much more
independant minded then other Canadians. And most distrustful of
government. And over the years there was some talk about the whole
province defecting to the United States, or just declaring themselves
independant from everyone else.
Other Canadians refer to Albertans as "Canada's Rednecks." They
have their western Canada cowboys. Their Calgary Stampede Rodeo every
year. Rodeos in other cities. They have the most privately owned
firearms, per capita, in Canada probably, even with all the government
red- tape hoops that people have to jump through to own guns up here.
Ya you can see Albertans driving pick-up trucks with gun racks in the
window. At least when I was out there some years back. They never
really fit into Canada like the other provinces.
But you can find a few left-wingers in that province too. Always
seems to be some of those leftwingers where-ever you go.
Check out these web sites about independant minded Alberta.....
http://www.separationalberta.com/
http://www.republicofalberta.com/
http://www.freealberta.com/
Cato


Cato May 8th 07 10:24 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Gr...
 
On May 8, 9:51 am, wrote:
Alberta,Canada and what's that other Province,Manitoba? are sort of Pro
America.I reckon Montana sort of rubs off on them.www.montanasnews.com
cuhulin


Oh one other thing. Check out Alberta Republicans. http://www.albertarepublicans.org/

Alberta Canadians sure are different from other Canadians.
Cato


Cato May 8th 07 10:50 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Grow Out Of The American Angst !
 

D Peter Maus wrote:

But where the heavy lifting is to be done, is not
where Canadian troops are to be found.


And be sure to let me know when you come up with a single
example
where Canadian troops led the fight, instead of following the path
blazed by US Marines.


Cato replys:
Peter, please be careful when making
statements about some other nations military. Make sure that you have
some knowledge of the military history of whatever country you make
statements about.
If you want some examples of accomplishments of the military
troops of Canada, I can give you plenty. My family has had direct
involvement with the Canadian military going back to 1812.
I can come up with all sorts of examples for you. There will be a
lot of info that will take up a lot of space on this list if you
wish.
It could really embarass you, and demonstrate your lack
of knowledge of what Canadian troops have accomplished in the past,
and at what cost and sacrifice. And without the help of the U.S.
Marines. (Don't get me wrong. I think the U.S. Marines are a fine
fighting force with a proud history of their own.)

Cato




[email protected] May 8th 07 11:26 PM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and-Gr...
 
Looks like Alberta is Rockin.My family and I went as far North as
Cardston,Alberta in 1956 when we lived in Bozeman,Montana.I remember it
was a cold cloudy rainy day and not many people out on the streets.We
stopped at a BP gas station for gas.There are some BP (British
Petroleum) gas stations around here,one of them is about two miles East
on Higway 80 from me.

On the web, Canadians in Vietnam
cuhulin


dxAce May 9th 07 02:27 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Gr...
 


Cato wrote:

cuhulin wrote:
Alberta,Canada and what's that other
Province,Manitoba? are sort of Pro
America.I reckon Montana sort of rubs off on them.
www.montanasnews.com

Cato replys: Ya. Alberta more then any other province. They have
what some people call an "American Conservative Mind-set." They see
themselves as sort of a Canadian Texas. Albertans tend to be much more
independant minded then other Canadians. And most distrustful of
government. And over the years there was some talk about the whole
province defecting to the United States, or just declaring themselves
independant from everyone else.
Other Canadians refer to Albertans as "Canada's Rednecks." They
have their western Canada cowboys. Their Calgary Stampede Rodeo every
year. Rodeos in other cities. They have the most privately owned
firearms, per capita, in Canada probably, even with all the government
red- tape hoops that people have to jump through to own guns up here.
Ya you can see Albertans driving pick-up trucks with gun racks in the
window. At least when I was out there some years back. They never
really fit into Canada like the other provinces.
But you can find a few left-wingers in that province too. Always
seems to be some of those leftwingers where-ever you go.
Check out these web sites about independant minded Alberta.....
http://www.separationalberta.com/
http://www.republicofalberta.com/
http://www.freealberta.com/
Cato


Sorry, your info-mecial ain't workin' here.

CanaDuh just plain sucks, so just go back to suckin' them Labatts and just leave
the rest of us alone. You ain't about to BS nobody into lovin' you.



m II May 9th 07 02:51 AM

(OT) : Stolen-oil-R-US
 
RHF wrote:

On May 6, 9:57 pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote:
Now with Respect to America - Look down at the Soil
that you are standing on and Say : This Is Not America.
I Am A Canadian -and- I Need to Focus on Canada
First and Fix Canada First -before- I go off-the-deep-end
and Attack America and Americans for what is Rightfully
Their Nation and Their Business [.]


Attacking and destroying sovereign nations for oil is your business?
Pretty shameful business to be in. Why not try PAYING for it instead of
theft? I can hardly wait until you invade Canada for the WATER.

mike


M II - It's a Mean World Out There -and- They Big Boys
play the Game of Hardball with the Heads of the Meek.
~ RHF


American Christianity at it's finest. Thank you for the insight.


mike

Cato May 9th 07 04:34 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Are A Canada -and- Gr...
 
dxAce wrote:

Sorry, your info-mecial ain't workin' here.

CanaDuh just plain sucks, so just go back to suckin' them Labatts and
just leave
the rest of us alone. You ain't about to BS nobody into lovin' you.

Cato replys:
Yep, like I have said before, there are
stupid idiotic jerks all over the world, in every country.
dxAce is a prime example. A real stupid idiotic
jerk. And he keeps proving it every time he opens his mouth.

Cato




m II May 9th 07 04:48 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Aren't dxAce
 
Cato wrote:
dxAcehole wrote:

Sorry, your info-mecial ain't workin' here.

CanaDuh just plain sucks, so just go back to suckin' them Labatts and
just leave
the rest of us alone. You ain't about to BS nobody into lovin' you.



Cato replys:
Yep, like I have said before, there are
stupid idiotic jerks all over the world, in every country.
dxAce is a prime example. A real stupid idiotic
jerk. And he keeps proving it every time he opens his mouth.

Cato



No, not every time. He usually opens it to pour more alcohol in. We then
have the misfortune to put up with the garbage that comes out.

No amount of praise towards his country will make him a better human
being. He will remain a loser until he gets help for his drinking.
Don't let his rough manner fool you. He's a failed bookkeeper with
visions of world domination.

I'm getting severely bored merely anticipating yet another of his half
witted replies. Sleep usually follows in seconds.



mike




RHF May 9th 07 07:39 AM

(OT) : The Canadian National Psychosis - American Envy !
 
On May 7, 8:16 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote:
Tommy Tootles wrote:
Eric F. Richards wrote:


...as for you, well, if you want to come here or are here, welcome!
Please do remember that you are a guest and act accordingly -- I do
the same when I'm in your fine country, and am as embarrassed by the
"Ugly Americans" as you should be by the "insecure Canadians" who spew
here.


Eric,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. My only question for you is are the
Canadians "insecure and spewing" or just telling what *they* perceive as
(unpleasant) truths that *we* may not enjoy hearing???


I don't know.

Things like the Canadian content rule with Canadian broadcasters, and
a joke circulating years ago about a contest to fill in the blank: "As
Canadian as _____" had the winner "As Canadian as possible under the
circumstances." -- those two things would lead me to believe in an
undercurrent of insecurity, or at least resentment at the American
influence.

I haven't *lived* in Canada, though, so I don't think I can say with
any real evidence one way or the other.

--
Eric F. Richards

"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass,
often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940


The Canadian National Psychosis - American Envy ~ RHF

BUT - Until World War One (WWI) - American
as a Nation and most Americans suffered from
European Envy -or- Euro Ancestral Psychosis.

American as a Nation and as a World Power
began to come into it's own after WWI and
was in-fact a World Power as a result of WWII.

Canada too was simply a Dominion of the UK prior
to WWI and was Culturally focused on the UK and
Europe. After WWII Canada became less dominated
by the UK and Europe and more focused on the USA.
To the extent at Canada and Canadians developed
a Love-Hate-Relationship {Psychosis} with the USA.
In time Canada will have a better understanding of
'itself' and a Clearer National Identity and be more
like the Australians - Who were able to transition
for Dominion to Fully Independent Nation with a
Clear National Identity many because they {the
Australians} were not next door to the USA.
= = = Canada's location in the World has been it
greatest hindrance to achieving Fully Independent
Nation with a Clear National Identity.
= = = Canada like Mexico suffers from being
America's Neighbor - - -
= = = Canada like Mexico suffers from being
America's Neighbor - - - Poor Mexico {Canada} So
Far From God {Allah} and So Close To The USA.

Proud To Be An American - God {Allah} Bless America !~ RHF
-and- Wishing Every Canadian and Mexican
Could Say The Same About Their Countries.

RHF May 9th 07 07:52 AM

(OT) : M II - Be Proud And Happy That You Aren't dxAce
 
On May 8, 8:48 pm, m II wrote:
Cato wrote:
dxAcehole wrote:


Sorry, your info-mecial ain't workin' here.


CanaDuh just plain sucks, so just go back to suckin' them Labatts and
just leave
the rest of us alone. You ain't about to BS nobody into lovin' you.
Cato replys:
Yep, like I have said before, there are
stupid idiotic jerks all over the world, in every country.
dxAce is a prime example. A real stupid idiotic
jerk. And he keeps proving it every time he opens his mouth.


Cato


No, not every time. He usually opens it to pour more alcohol in. We then
have the misfortune to put up with the garbage that comes out.

No amount of praise towards his country will make him a better human
being. He will remain a loser until he gets help for his drinking.
Don't let his rough manner fool you. He's a failed bookkeeper with
visions of world domination.

I'm getting severely bored merely anticipating yet another of his half
witted replies. Sleep usually follows in seconds.

mike


With Respect to M II it can be said {para-phrased}

No Amount of Hate towards the USA will make Him
a Better Human Being. He will Remain a Loser until
He gets Help for his American Psychosis. Don't let
his childish manner fool you. He's a failed school boy
with visions of world destruction.

m ii - you make it to easy ~ RHF

m II May 10th 07 02:45 AM

(OT) : M II - Over-the-Line - Very Bad Form
 
RHF wrote:

You Do Not Post Someones Name, Adddress,
Telephone Number and Place of Work.


I did? I thought HE did. Check he

http://www.qrz.com/detail/KE4ODD

Sure looks like it's in the public forum. The military address was
posted by him in a drunken stupor. He may have been trying to impress
someone. It didn't work. Either way, my sources were BOTH in the public
domain. I had to do NO searching.


YOU STEPPED OVER THE LINE !

Plus make threats to Report them at Work.


Just like dxAce does? You are right, of course. NO ONE should sink that
low.

YOU STEPPED OVER THE LINE - BIG TIME ! ! !


I think not. A new pair of glasses may help you get over your tunnel
vision so you can stop defending the indefensible.


mike





mike

ve3... May 10th 07 01:31 PM

(OT) : The Canadian National Psychosis - American Envy !
 
On May 9, 2:39 am, RHF wrote:
On May 7, 8:16 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote:


Tommy Tootles wrote:
Eric F. Richards wrote:


...as for you, well, if you want to come here or are here, welcome!
Please do remember that you are a guest and act accordingly -- I do
the same when I'm in your fine country, and am as embarrassed by the
"Ugly Americans" as you should be by the "insecure Canadians" who spew
here.


Eric,
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. My only question for you is are the
Canadians "insecure and spewing" or just telling what *they* perceive as
(unpleasant) truths that *we* may not enjoy hearing???


I don't know.


Things like the Canadian content rule with Canadian broadcasters, and
a joke circulating years ago about a contest to fill in the blank: "As
Canadian as _____" had the winner "As Canadian as possible under the
circumstances." -- those two things would lead me to believe in an
undercurrent of insecurity, or at least resentment at the American
influence.


I haven't *lived* in Canada, though, so I don't think I can say with
any real evidence one way or the other.


"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""
I have been away from the web for a few days entertaining some friends
from Wisconsin, and am surprised to see that this thread is still
going on, eclipsing anything to do with shortwave. There were no
arguments over politics or religion with our guests and we had a good
visit as usual.
I did have the thought, however, that no nation on the planet is
more competent to criticize the US than is Canada. Canadians visit
regularly, have friends and relations in the US, are quite familiar
with US affairs, but most importantly, Canadians are not imprisoned in
the US mind-meld and can see things free of jingoistic cant. On the
average, Canadians know far more about the US than Americans know
about Canada.
I have previously posted surveys that show that Canadians are
increasing their dislike of the US, do not want to join the US, and
are starting to dislike Americans because of their adherance to the
principles listed by RHF. I don't see any envy of the US at all and if
the big boys try to sneak the North American Union into being, there
will be much resistance.
Of course there are many Americans who share Canadian views on the
Iraq war, the national debt, trade imbalance, shredding of the
Constitution, demise of the middle class, and the loss of Habeas
Corpus, but their views have a hard time making it to the mass media.
If there is one national weakness, it is the desire of Americans
to be liked in foreign lands, and when they are not, they are hurt and
confused. Canadians don't care if they are liked or not, neither do
the British or Germans. The French would rather not be liked and go
out of their way to make it happen, rather like DxEcch. I have seen
unscupulous foreigners cleverly take advantage of this desire to be
liked.



[email protected] May 10th 07 04:36 PM

(OT) : The Canadian National Psychosis - American Envy !
 
The Desire for America to own the World,,,, (some people just don't
''get it'' about what things are Really going on.Metinks I DO ''get''
some of it) Rule Outer Space.Works A OK for this auld Scotch Irish by
Ancestry,Mississippi,Born and Raised in Mississippi United States of
AMERICA (I SAY,AMERICA) boy.
cuhulin



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