I have a Sony ICF7600GR world band radio and was wondering what
portable antenna I could use that has good reception on all of HF and
uses the 1/8 External Jack plug on the receiver, but isn't like $50+.

I have been playing with a homemade dipole antenna with a mono 1/8
plug and two wires going in either direction, but even though I know
people put shortwave antennas up in trees, I learned one good thing,
and that is make sure the tree(s) that you use, are defiantly trees
you can easily climb, if your wire gets stuck up in the tree, LoL. I
had that issue the first time I used my dipole, with the one tree, not
wanting to give the antenna wire back.

RedPenguin ) writes:
I have a Sony ICF7600GR world band radio and was wondering what
portable antenna I could use that has good reception on all of HF and
uses the 1/8 External Jack plug on the receiver, but isn't like $50+.

Unless something is an active antenna, or a tuned loop, basically any
expense is going to go for cosmetics. Because you can't
really come up with anything that isn't just a piece of wire.

So you'll pay for some neat little gadget that lets you wind up the
wire.

But it won't work any better than some wire.

Most people do get by with a "random length of wire" (which mostly
ends up being a relatively short piece of wire for most of the
frequencies in the shortwave range). In the old days, they'd actually
string it up out the back window and to the tree in the backyard, something
that may not be available to many nowadays, living in apartments and
such. So you just let the long piece of wire hang out the window, or
lie on the floor. To the tree has the advantage that it's outside and
away from the house, but there isn't anything really better about
the antenna compared with a similar length of wire lying on the floor.

Keep in mind that many portable receivers are intended for use with
the built in whip, and if you start adding too long a length of wire
it will start overloading (because they put in lots of amplification
to make up for the lack of antenna length on the whip).

Few will bother with actual dipoles, since they are frequency selective
and they will start getting long the lower in frequency you go.

Michael

RHF ) writes:

Quick hijacking threads, bozo.

If you really feel a reply is necessary, then do what every else
does, simply reply, and then we know you are replying to an existing
post, rather than making it look like you are the all-important source
of information.

And once again, if it's off-topic, don't reply. If it's cross-posted,
don't reply. And don't start off-topic threads.

Michael

On May 24, 6:04 pm, RHF wrote:
On May 24, 9:04 am, (Michael Black) wrote:

RHF ) writes:

- Quick hijacking threads, bozo.

? BOSO ? =http://www.ultimeth.com/Bozos.html

oh and yes that is 'quit' -vice- 'quick'
-but- then again i am 'quick' to change
the subject line to reflect what i am
saying {writing about} being true to
myself and any possible reads who
just might reat it . . .



If you really feel a reply is necessary, then do what every else
does, simply reply, and then we know you are replying to an existing
post, rather than making it look like you are the all-important source
of information.

And once again, if it's off-topic, don't reply. If it's cross-posted,
don't reply. And don't start off-topic threads.

Michael

Why "Michael Black" (MB) You Are SOoooo Gooda !
We @ "Rec.Radio.Shortwave" Don't Deserve You. )

It is a Religious Experience to see someone like You "MB"
Who is so Devoted to the Cause of "Off-Topic" (OT) Posts
and so quick to Remind-Us-All of the 'Thou-Shall-Nots' of
"Off-Topic" (OT) Postings and Replies.

MB - Plus now you {The Michael Black} have singled me out
for a Special Admonishment concerning Hijacking Threads
-and- Have Honored Me by Naming Me a "BOSO"
BOSO THE CLOWN =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown

we are truly blessed -and- i am truly bless twice ~ RHF
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MB - The Message {Subject Line} IS The Media
-and- The Media IS The Message {Subject Line}
- - - The Truth 'is' Revealed To Those Who . . .
Read the Message {Subject Line} -and- Then Decide
{Choose} to Read -or- Not Read The Message [.]
* MB - Thank You For Your Personal Attention
- I Am Honored )

alas - i am forever a thread 'hijacking bozo' ~ RHF
BOSO THE CLOWN =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown
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.
. .

Hey Mista Really Happy Fella. I jus gotta tell you how Jealous I am
that are now a thread Hijackin Boso. I have been only been crowned an
idiot. Perhaps I can petition our savior for some special
consideration. I don't want to be just an idiot anymore. I want to
be a thread hijacking boso too.

Sincerely yours with great respect for your high position

Neo the idiot.

On May 24, 6:13 pm, N9NEO wrote:
On May 24, 6:04 pm, RHF wrote:





On May 24, 9:04 am, (Michael Black) wrote:

RHF ) writes:

- Quick hijacking threads, bozo.

? BOSO ? =http://www.ultimeth.com/Bozos.html

oh and yes that is 'quit' -vice- 'quick'
-but- then again i am 'quick' to change
the subject line to reflect what i am
saying {writing about} being true to
myself and any possible reads who
just might reat it . . .

If you really feel a reply is necessary, then do what every else
does, simply reply, and then we know you are replying to an existing
post, rather than making it look like you are the all-important source
of information.

And once again, if it's off-topic, don't reply. If it's cross-posted,
don't reply. And don't start off-topic threads.

Michael

Why "Michael Black" (MB) You Are SOoooo Gooda !
We @ "Rec.Radio.Shortwave" Don't Deserve You. )

It is a Religious Experience to see someone like You "MB"
Who is so Devoted to the Cause of "Off-Topic" (OT) Posts
and so quick to Remind-Us-All of the 'Thou-Shall-Nots' of
"Off-Topic" (OT) Postings and Replies.

MB - Plus now you {The Michael Black} have singled me out
for a Special Admonishment concerning Hijacking Threads
-and- Have Honored Me by Naming Me a "BOSO"
BOSO THE CLOWN =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown

we are truly blessed -and- i am truly bless twice ~ RHF
.
.
MB - The Message {Subject Line} IS The Media
-and- The Media IS The Message {Subject Line}
- - - The Truth 'is' Revealed To Those Who . . .
Read the Message {Subject Line} -and- Then Decide
{Choose} to Read -or- Not Read The Message [.]
* MB - Thank You For Your Personal Attention
- I Am Honored )

alas - i am forever a thread 'hijacking bozo' ~ RHF
BOSO THE CLOWN =http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown
.
.
. .

Hey Mista Really Happy Fella. I jus gotta tell you how Jealous I am
that are now a thread Hijackin Boso. I have been only been crowned an
idiot. Perhaps I can petition our savior for some special
consideration. I don't want to be just an idiot anymore. I want to
be a thread hijacking boso too.

Sincerely yours with great respect for your high position

Neo the idiot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

N9NEO - ROTFLMAO ! ) ~ RHF

On May 25, 11:19 am, michael_s wrote:
On May 23, 11:22 pm, RedPenguin wrote:

I have a Sony ICF7600GR world band radio and was wondering what
portable antenna I could use that has good reception on all of HF and
uses the 1/8 External Jack plug on the receiver, but isn't like $50+.

I have been playing with a homemade dipole antenna with a mono 1/8
plug and two wires going in either direction, but even though I know
people put shortwave antennas up in trees, I learned one good thing,
and that is make sure the tree(s) that you use, are defiantly trees
you can easily climb, if your wire gets stuck up in the tree, LoL. I
had that issue the first time I used my dipole, with the one tree, not
wanting to give the antenna wire back.

RedPenguin,

I have a 7600GR and what I use is either the AN-LP1 or a random wire.
I picked up a small spool of 100 ft of stranded hookup wire from Radio
Shack and attached an alligator clip at one end. At first I just
stretched it across the length of the house and that worked okay. Next
I took the other end of the wire and looped it around the windows on
the back porch- three large rectangles- then fed it to the radio and
was suprised to hear it actually did better. Shortly after I set that
up I copied CHU 3333 more clearly than I ever had on that radio. it is
isn't measured precisely and I am not using a balun (though Random
Wire Antenna II will have one), i was hoping for a little quarter wave
action, I guess it worked out okay.

I'm also interested in a slinky antenna, since at that level of
complexity a wire is just a wire and portability and ease of storage
is almost more important to me. (Although I have read something about
it functioning as a 1/10th-wave antenna? )

Michael S.,

Never heard of a Slinky being consider as a
1/10th-Wave-Lenght Antenna before.


FWIW - Here are Two Low Cost "Portable" [Do-It-Yourself]
Slinky Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna Ideas :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw.../message/13366


# 1 - Basic "Slinky" Great-Out-Doors {Camping}
Horizotial Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna

For an "Out-Side" Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna the
Full Size Slinky can be Stretched-Out like a the typical
Horizontal Wire Antenna -and- Fed with an Insulated Wire
or Coax Cable. Rig with Nylon-Poly Mason Line.
TIP - Run the Nylon-Poly Mason Line through the Center
of the Slinky's Coils and use the Line to Support the
Slinky. Measure this Center-Line to 20~22 Feet to
'optimize' the Length of the Antenna.

NOTE - The standard Full Size Slinky has about 100 Turns
with a Diameter of 2.75 Inches and a Circumference of
8.64 Inches for a Total Wire Length of about 72 Feet.

How Long Does a standard Full Size Slinky Get ?
I Calculate that the Optimum "Stretched-Out" Length
of a standard Slinky would be about 22.7 Feet.
- - - Coil Spacing = Diameter of 2.75 Inches [ 1:1 ]
- - - 100 Turns = 99 Spaces between the Turns
= = = 2.75 Inches X 99 Spaces = 272.3 Inches = 22.7 Feet
TIP - A Full Size {Standard} "Slinky" Dipole would
measure about 45.4 Feet Tip-to-Tip.


# 2 - Basic "Slinky Jr." In-the-Room {Travelers}
Vertical Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna

For an "In-Door" Shortwave Listening (SWL) Antenna the
Smaller-Shorter Slinky Jr. {Junor} can be Stretched-Out
like a the typical Vertical Wire Antenna from Floor-to-Ceiling
-and- Fed with an a short Insulated Wire or a short piece
of Coax Cable. Rig with Cup Hooks, etc.

NOTE - The Slinky Jr. {Junor} has about 85 Turns with
a Diameter of 1.875 Inches and a Circumference of
5.89 Inches for a Total Wire Length of about 41.7 Feet.

How Long Does a Slinky Jr. {Junor} Get ?
I Calculate that the Optimum "Stretched-Out" Length
of a Slinky Jr. {Junor} would be about 22.7 Feet.
- - - Coil Spacing = Diameter of 1.875 Inches [ 1:1 ]
- - - 85 Turns = 84 Spaces between the Turns
= = = 1.875 Inches X 84 Spaces = 157.5 Inches = 13.1 Feet
TIP - A Smaller Size {Junor} "Slinky Jr." Dipole would
measure about 26.2 Feet Tip-to-Tip and could 'fit' under
the Eaves of many Houses and be {Out-of-Sight}.


READ - What About a Multi-Band "Off-Center"
Vertical Dipole Antenna made from a Single
(One) Slinky for Shortwave Listening (SWL) ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/5696
http://www.google.com/group/rec.radi...9961a8ac54de62


READ - Consider the Slinky Jr. on a Hula Hoop Loop
Antenna to use with your MFJ-1020C as a Pre-Selector.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/2741
http://www.google.com/group/rec.radi...fad0a7e37de992


that's it for now - i am all slinky'ed out - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
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