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[email protected] June 25th 07 06:38 PM

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www.standeyo.com

And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's all
phoney Baloney.
Paris Hilton gets extra Baloney and an extra carton of Apple Juice and
an extra blanket in the klink.Paris Hilton said she hates orange.
cuhulin


Roadie June 25th 07 07:59 PM

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I would not be surprised to find a think layer of magma under the
earth at most locations!


bpnjensen June 25th 07 10:05 PM

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On Jun 25, 10:38 am, wrote:
www.standeyo.com


Like Roadie, not too surprised about the magma.

And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...

:-)

Paris Hilton gets extra Baloney and an extra carton of Apple Juice and
an extra blanket in the klink.Paris Hilton said she hates orange.
cuhulin


She is *truly* screwed up. And boring as hell, to boot.

Bruce Jensen


dxAce June 25th 07 11:18 PM

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wrote:

www.standeyo.com

And, black holes do not exist.


Black ho's do exist!. That radio talk show host got busted for talking about
them.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Brian Hill June 25th 07 11:19 PM

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message

And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...


Black holes are no longer theory but fact.

BH



m II June 26th 07 04:48 AM

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bpnjensen wrote:

And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...



Some rather enlightening reading he

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html

It appears many people didn't get the recognition they deserve.





mike

bpnjensen June 26th 07 03:07 PM

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On Jun 25, 3:19 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...


Black holes are no longer theory but fact.

BH


Now this I have not heard. Can you provide a citation? Since they
cannot be observed directly, and are (at their closest) many tens or
hundreds of light years away, how can this be stated with certainty?
I realize that certain phenomena cannot be explained without them, but
that does not make them factual as of yet...

Bruce Jensen


bpnjensen June 26th 07 03:11 PM

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On Jun 25, 3:25 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...





wrote:


www.standeyo.com


And, black holes do not exist.


Black ho's do exist!. That radio talk show host got busted for talking
about
them.


dxAce
Michigan
USA


The truth about black holes:

http://amazing-space.stsci.edu/resou...holes/teac...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


This is very good, thanks - but note here that Mr. Steinberg, rather
than claiming them to be factual, offers evidence of their existence,
which is appropriate in science when the objects canno tbe directly
observed.

Bruce Jensen


Brian Hill June 26th 07 03:55 PM

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message oups.com...
On Jun 25, 3:25 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...





wrote:


www.standeyo.com


And, black holes do not exist.


Black ho's do exist!. That radio talk show host got busted for talking
about
them.


dxAce
Michigan
USA


The truth about black holes:

http://amazing-space.stsci.edu/resou...holes/teac...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


This is very good, thanks - but note here that Mr. Steinberg, rather
than claiming them to be factual, offers evidence of their existence,
which is appropriate in science when the objects canno tbe directly
observed.

Bruce Jensen


Well all the great astrophysicist and quantum physicist beleive they exist so that's good enough for me. And since the nature of black holes actually unravel the laws of quantum physics, well I guess we'll be here a wile : )

BH


Brian Hill June 26th 07 03:57 PM

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"Christy D" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:07:13 -0700, bpnjensen
wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:19 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's
all
phoney Baloney.

Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...

Black holes are no longer theory but fact.

BH


Now this I have not heard. Can you provide a citation? Since they
cannot be observed directly, and are (at their closest) many tens or
hundreds of light years away, how can this be stated with certainty?
I realize that certain phenomena cannot be explained without them, but
that does not make them factual as of yet...


Einstein didn't believe in black holes himself and was always troubled
by the concept. Recently, Nature published an article about George
Chapline, a physicst at LLL, who thinks that a black hole is in reality
a "dark energy" star. The Nature article is available on the web at
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/0503...0328-8_pf.html

The existence of black holes is therefore far from being an established
fact


I guess we can argue about symantics but they do exist. Our interpretation
may change over time.

BH



bpnjensen June 26th 07 04:27 PM

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On Jun 26, 7:55 am, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in ooglegroups.com...
On Jun 25, 3:25 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message


...


wrote:


www.standeyo.com


And, black holes do not exist.


Black ho's do exist!. That radio talk show host got busted for talking
about
them.


dxAce
Michigan
USA


The truth about black holes:


http://amazing-space.stsci.edu/resou...es/teac...Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


This is very good, thanks - but note here that Mr. Steinberg, rather
than claiming them to be factual, offers evidence of their existence,
which is appropriate in science when the objects canno tbe directly
observed.


Bruce Jensen


Well all the great astrophysicist and quantum physicist beleive they exist so that's good enough for me. And since the nature of black holes actually unravel the laws of quantum physics, well I guess we'll be here a wile : )


I agree with them too - I think there *are* black holes - but
believing them to be is not the same as a statement of fact.

'Tis probably true - the interior of black holes - that is, the region
beyond the event horizon and especially the singularity - definitely
screw with quantum theory and space-time so that it cannot be
recognized.

Bruce Jensen


bpnjensen June 26th 07 04:29 PM

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On Jun 26, 7:57 am, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"Christy D" wrote in message

...





On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:07:13 -0700, bpnjensen
wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:19 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's
all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...


Black holes are no longer theory but fact.


BH


Now this I have not heard. Can you provide a citation? Since they
cannot be observed directly, and are (at their closest) many tens or
hundreds of light years away, how can this be stated with certainty?
I realize that certain phenomena cannot be explained without them, but
that does not make them factual as of yet...


Einstein didn't believe in black holes himself and was always troubled
by the concept. Recently, Nature published an article about George
Chapline, a physicst at LLL, who thinks that a black hole is in reality
a "dark energy" star. The Nature article is available on the web at
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/0503...0328-8_pf.html


The existence of black holes is therefore far from being an established
fact


I guess we can argue about symantics but they do exist. Our interpretation
may change over time.

BH- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Did you read the article Christy D posted?


m II June 26th 07 04:34 PM

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Brian Hill wrote:

I guess we can argue about symantics but they do exist. Our interpretation
may change over time.



I never would have figured you for being anti semantic.




mike

bpnjensen June 26th 07 04:38 PM

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On Jun 26, 7:57 am, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"Christy D" wrote in message

...





On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:07:13 -0700, bpnjensen
wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:19 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's
all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...


Black holes are no longer theory but fact.


BH


Now this I have not heard. Can you provide a citation? Since they
cannot be observed directly, and are (at their closest) many tens or
hundreds of light years away, how can this be stated with certainty?
I realize that certain phenomena cannot be explained without them, but
that does not make them factual as of yet...


Einstein didn't believe in black holes himself and was always troubled
by the concept. Recently, Nature published an article about George
Chapline, a physicst at LLL, who thinks that a black hole is in reality
a "dark energy" star. The Nature article is available on the web at
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/0503...0328-8_pf.html


The existence of black holes is therefore far from being an established
fact


I guess we can argue about symantics but they do exist. Our interpretation
may change over time.

BH- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Here is a brief summary, with links, of other theories. All are
subject to testing and review, and one of these may eventually come
out to be a better bet than the singularity model. Right now, though,
a black hole as traditionally understood, remains the best candidate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_h...rnative_models

Bruce Jensen


[email protected] June 26th 07 06:15 PM

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I never have believed black holes exist and I still do not believe they
exist.
cuhulin
.................................................. .............
What are doing? [digging a hole] you can't dig a hole! [why not?] there
isn't anything in a hole to dig!
.................................................. .............


bpnjensen June 26th 07 06:33 PM

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On Jun 26, 10:15 am, wrote:
I never have believed black holes exist and I still do not believe they
exist.
cuhulin


Well, they probably don't believe in you either, so it comes out a
wash... ;-)

Bruce Jensen


ka6uup June 26th 07 07:51 PM

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Christy D wrote:
Recently, Nature published an article about George
Chapline, a physicst at LLL, who thinks that a black hole is in reality
a "dark energy" star. The Nature article is available on the web at
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/0503...0328-8_pf.html

The existence of black holes is therefore far from being an established
fact.

That is LLNL not LLL

[email protected] June 26th 07 08:08 PM

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Next year in the month of May, (supposely in the month of May) that CERN
project down under the ground over yonder across the big pond is going
to sling some particles around and around.Some people say those
scientist over there might split the World in half.I don't know what all
to think about that,,,, yet.

I don't believe so-called space aliens from another planet or other
planets have ever visited Earth before.If they do exist, I don't believe
they ever will visit Earth either, if they ever try, Earth won't be
around anymore.I don't believe in phoney baloney bull s..t.Look, Albert
Einstein was on a learning curve, he didn't have the answers to
everything and neither do I.The more we know, the more we don't
know.That will always be true for as long as humans exist anywhere in
the Universe.
cuhulin
.................................................. ......
I was strollin through the parrrrk one dayyyy,,,,, in the very merry
monnnth of Mayyyyyyy,,,,,,,,,,
.................................................. ......



[email protected] June 27th 07 03:19 AM

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Article at www.standeyo.com
Without Hot Rock, Much of America Would Be Underwater.

Shades of Waterworld!
cuhulin


Ross Archer June 27th 07 09:58 AM

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On Jun 26, 7:57 am, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"Christy D" wrote in message

...



On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:07:13 -0700, bpnjensen
wrote:
On Jun 25, 3:19 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's
all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...


Black holes are no longer theory but fact.


BH


Now this I have not heard. Can you provide a citation? Since they
cannot be observed directly, and are (at their closest) many tens or
hundreds of light years away, how can this be stated with certainty?
I realize that certain phenomena cannot be explained without them, but
that does not make them factual as of yet...


Einstein didn't believe in black holes himself and was always troubled
by the concept. Recently, Nature published an article about George
Chapline, a physicst at LLL, who thinks that a black hole is in reality
a "dark energy" star. The Nature article is available on the web at
http://www.nature.com/news/2005/0503...0328-8_pf.html


The existence of black holes is therefore far from being an established
fact


I guess we can argue about symantics but they do exist. Our interpretation
may change over time.

BH


Veering off-topic'er yet, I heard a great podcast novel (and later
ordered and read the book) "Singularity", which follows the
possibility that the Tunguska event on 1908 was caused by a tiny black
hole that is still circulating within the earth. International
intrigue and much nefarious cold-blooded *******ry ensue. :) Great
story.

http://billdesmedt.com/
http://www.podiobooks.com/title/singularity

Was a fun read that I bet a lot of RRS denizens might like. And no,
I don't get paid to plug the book or anything :)





David June 27th 07 02:20 PM

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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:07:13 -0700, bpnjensen
wrote:

On Jun 25, 3:19 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...


Black holes are no longer theory but fact.

BH


Now this I have not heard. Can you provide a citation? Since they
cannot be observed directly, and are (at their closest) many tens or
hundreds of light years away, how can this be stated with certainty?
I realize that certain phenomena cannot be explained without them, but
that does not make them factual as of yet...

Bruce Jensen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A%2A

bpnjensen June 27th 07 03:05 PM

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On Jun 27, 6:20 am, David wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 07:07:13 -0700, bpnjensen
wrote:





On Jun 25, 3:19 pm, "Brian Hill" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
And, black holes do not exist.I never have believed they exist.It's all
phoney Baloney.


Gee, that's harsh - ol' Albert Einstein has been right, so far, about
everything else in his Theory...


Black holes are no longer theory but fact.


BH


Now this I have not heard. Can you provide a citation? Since they
cannot be observed directly, and are (at their closest) many tens or
hundreds of light years away, how can this be stated with certainty?
I realize that certain phenomena cannot be explained without them, but
that does not make them factual as of yet...


Bruce Jensen


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A%2A- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for this - but it is still just *evidence*, and not proof
positive of the actual fact:

"This is compatible with, and strong evidence in support of, the
hypothesis that Sagittarius A* is a supermassive black hole."

Most scientists will believe it - as do I - but none worth their salt
would claim it is 100% indisputable. Until you see one up close *and*
obtain verifying information from it - and the way black holes are
apparently made, this may be technically impossible - that magic 100%
may never be reached.

Bruce Jensen


[email protected] June 27th 07 10:55 PM

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Team Makes Tunguska Claim.
www.stevequayle.com (click on the big Q)
It was an asteroid or a comet.Rediculous beyond compare to believe it
was a black hole!
cuhulin
.................................................. ..........
Son,,, I say Son,,,, you might as well put that thar shovel down.I done
told you before you can't dig that black hole.Now, put that dirt back in
there and leave it alone.I might need to bury somebody in there some
night!
.................................................. .........


Brenda Ann June 27th 07 11:21 PM

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...

- that magic 100%
may never be reached.






Brenda Ann June 27th 07 11:23 PM

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"bpnjensen" wrote in message
oups.com...


- that magic 100%
may never be reached.


Oopsies... hit the wrong button on that last one.

Question for you:

Is there ANYTHING that can be proved to the standards and expectations of
100% of any given group of people? It has been 'proven' that the Earth is a
sphere, and that it revolves around the Sun.... but there are still at least
thousands of people that believe otherwise.




[email protected] June 28th 07 12:13 AM

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Last year, I read somewhere on the internet there is a giant rust cloud,
larger than our solar system, and when it hits, it's all over for all
life on Earth.
cuhulin


bpnjensen June 28th 07 03:31 PM

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On Jun 27, 3:23 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote in message

oups.com...

- that magic 100%

may never be reached.


Oopsies... hit the wrong button on that last one.

Question for you:

Is there ANYTHING that can be proved to the standards and expectations of
100% of any given group of people? It has been 'proven' that the Earth is a
sphere, and that it revolves around the Sun.... but there are still at least
thousands of people that believe otherwise.


On the first point - yes, the magic 100% probably will not be reached
on black holes - but 75% and climbing may be good enough for most of
us forever :-)

Your example of the earth being round may not quite be the best
analogy, for two reasons -

One - the earth *is* factually approximately spherical, and this can
be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt several different ways. Even the
ancient Greeks knew it. There are some phenomenae and evidence for
which there can be no other scientific explanation (the most stunning
of which are direct photographs from space). People who choose to
ignore it - well, it's their choice to be ignorant. Black holes may
factually exist, but there are still other possible ways to explain
the evidence that shows up, and until those ways are all discarded
(and granted, they may be someday), black holes are still not quite
there.

Two - belief by 100% of the population, or any other fraction, is not
a prerequisite for something, either a statement or a theory, being
correct or factual. The earth is either round or it isn't, regardless
of what people may choose to believe. Black holes either exist as
postulated or they do not, irrespective of the opinions of us mere
Newtonian-reference-frame mortals. It matters not whether people are
around when the proverbial tree falls in the forest - it makes a
sound, or at least the mechanical waves that, if heard, would be a
sound.

Bruce


[email protected] June 28th 07 05:09 PM

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Earth is slightly pear shaped.Earth wobbles on it's axis.Earth is
gradually slowing down, that is why we sometimes add one second to the
lenght of the year.The solar system which Earth is in which is also in
the Milky Way Galaxie is moving through Space at about 60,000 miles per
hour.Earth is closer to the Sun in Winter and further away from the Sun
in Summer.
cuhulin


[email protected] June 28th 07 05:17 PM

(OT) Thick Layer Of Magma Found Under American Southwest.
 
Earth tilts on it's axis, that is why we have Winter, Summer, Spring and
Fall.Earth spins around at 24,000 miles per hour.Spinning and wobbling
and tilting and slowing down like a toy Top I used to wind a string
around and play with when I was a kid.Earth is a Top and we are all
little actors on the Stage of Earth.Space Ship Earth.
cuhulin


HFguy June 29th 07 05:23 AM

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bpnjensen wrote:

On the first point - yes, the magic 100% probably will not be reached
on black holes - but 75% and climbing may be good enough for most of
us forever :-)


The first unfortunate traveler to fall into a black hole will have the
magic 100% but it's unlikely we'll be hearing from him.

HFguy June 29th 07 07:19 AM

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Earth is slightly pear shaped.

This has no significant effects other than the orbits of satellites. It
doesn't cause any daily or seasonal changes which affect life on earth.

Earth wobbles on it's axis.


One wobble takes 26-thousand years. This too has no effect on the
seasons or climate. It just changes the direction that the earth's axis
points towards in space.

Earth is gradually slowing down, that is why we sometimes add one second

to the lenght of the year.

This is caused by the tidal (gravitational) interaction of the earth and
moon. The earth's rotation is slowing down and the moon is moving
farther away from the earth in it's orbit.

The solar system which Earth is in which is also in the Milky Way Galaxie

is moving through Space at about 60,000 miles per hour.

It's all relative. The earth is moving (rotating) at 1000-miles per hour
at the equator. The earth revolves at about 66,000-mph in it's orbit
around the sun. The solar system is revolving around the center of the
galaxy at about 550,000-mph. Our Milky Way galaxy is moving through
space at millions of miles per hour relative to most other galaxies but
we are actually approaching the Andromeda galaxy, which is currently
about 2-million light years away. (11,600,000-trillion miles) It will
still take about 3-billion years before the big collison.

http://tinyurl.com/2zlp44

Earth is closer to the Sun in Winter and further away from the Sun

in Summer.

This is true only for the northern hemisphere and it's not what causes
the seasons.

m II June 29th 07 01:35 PM

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HFguy wrote:

Earth is closer to the Sun in Winter and further away from the Sun

in Summer.

This is true only for the northern hemisphere and it's not what causes
the seasons.



The tilt of the axis causes seasons, but your distance theories are out
to lunch.

============================================
The difference between the distances on 4 January and 4 July is about 3
percent, which corresponds to about 5 million km or 3 million mi.

http://www.astro.uu.nl/~strous/AA/en...en/zon.html#11
=============================================




mike

Brenda Ann June 29th 07 02:38 PM

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"HFguy" wrote in message
news:uv1hi.10571$9b5.1632@trndny05...
Earth is closer to the Sun in Winter and further away from the Sun

in Summer.

This is true only for the northern hemisphere and it's not what causes the
seasons.



The Earth reaches perihelion - the point in its orbit closest to the Sun -
in early January, only about two weeks after the December solstice. Thus
winter begins in the northern hemisphere at about the time that the Earth is
nearest the Sun. Is this important? Is there a reason why the times of
solstice and perihelion are so close? It turns out that the proximity of the
two dates is a coincidence of the particular century we live in. The date of
perihelion does not remain fixed, but, over very long periods of time,
slowly regresses (moves later) within the year. There is some evidence that
this long-term change in the date of perihelion influences the Earth's
climate.



Brenda Ann June 29th 07 02:39 PM

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:uv1hi.10571$9b5.1632@trndny05...
Earth is closer to the Sun in Winter and further away from the Sun

in Summer.

This is true only for the northern hemisphere and it's not what causes
the seasons.



The Earth reaches perihelion - the point in its orbit closest to the Sun -
in early January, only about two weeks after the December solstice. Thus
winter begins in the northern hemisphere at about the time that the Earth
is nearest the Sun. Is this important? Is there a reason why the times of
solstice and perihelion are so close? It turns out that the proximity of
the two dates is a coincidence of the particular century we live in. The
date of perihelion does not remain fixed, but, over very long periods of
time, slowly regresses (moves later) within the year. There is some
evidence that this long-term change in the date of perihelion influences
the Earth's climate.



My bad, forgot the link/cite:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/seasons_orbit.html



bpnjensen June 29th 07 02:48 PM

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On Jun 28, 9:23 pm, HFguy wrote:
bpnjensen wrote:

On the first point - yes, the magic 100% probably will not be reached
on black holes - but 75% and climbing may be good enough for most of
us forever :-)


The first unfortunate traveler to fall into a black hole will have the
magic 100% but it's unlikely we'll be hearing from him.


Indeed - but we can watch his voyage of discovery for an immense
period of time ;-)


[email protected] June 29th 07 03:00 PM

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It was my keyboard that said Earth spins around at 24,000 miles per
hour.Actually it is 1,000 miles per hour.Earth's circumference at the
equator is about 24,000 miles, so 1,000 miles per hour equals one 24
hour day.
I am going to fire my keyboard and get another one.
cuhulin


dxAce June 30th 07 01:28 PM

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HFguy wrote:

That's called the orbital forcing theory of climate change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_forcing



What about the Al Gore School of Kookology theory regarding climate change?


By the time he's likely proven to be correct, most of his detractors
won't be around any more. This will spare them the embarrassment of
trying to explain why they just didn't get it. However the descendants
of those naysayers will still talk about the days when their crazy uncle
so and so used to rant about Al Gore.


Al Gore is mentally ill.



[email protected] June 30th 07 04:32 PM

(OT) Thick Layer Of Magma Found Under American Southwest.
 
Some of Earth's global warming is caused by that very berry magma which
makes volcanos.Untill people start moving to and living on other Planets
we are stuck here on Mother Earth.The Earth warms up, the Earth cools
down, has been doing so for millions, perhaps billions of years and
there is nothing we can do to stop that.It ain't gonna happen.
cuhulin


m II July 1st 07 04:44 AM

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HFguy wrote:

Not sure who's distance theories you're referring to but I was replying
to the first poster's quote (above) about the distance of the sun from
the earth during the (northern) summer and winter, which as you
acknowledge, has nothing to do with the cause of the seasons.


I misunderstood the statement that "It only applies to the Northern
Hemisphere". The brain kept telling me that the whole planet is closer
to the Sun in winter, not just the Northern half. The distance the
planet is closer is far greater than the amount given by the precession.

My fault..please accept my humble apologies.

In fact
the southern summer and winter tend to be more extreme because the earth
happens to be closest and farthest from the sun respectively, during
those seasons in the southern hemisphere. We happen to live in an era
where this is the case. As the earth's axis precesses over a period of
26-thousand years, the seasons of the year when perihelion and aphelion
occur in each hemisphere slowly shifts. In about 13-thousand years from
now the situation will be reversed for each hemisphere.


I'll have to verify that...must leave note...Where is my acid free
papyrus.....





mike

Telamon July 1st 07 06:14 AM

(OT) Thick Layer Of Magma Found Under American Southwest.
 
In article L7rhi.182$105.176@trndny08, HFguy
wrote:

Brenda Ann wrote:

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:uv1hi.10571$9b5.1632@trndny05...

Earth is closer to the Sun in Winter and further away from the Sun

in Summer.

This is true only for the northern hemisphere and it's not what causes the
seasons.




The Earth reaches perihelion - the point in its orbit closest to the Sun -
in early January, only about two weeks after the December solstice. Thus
winter begins in the northern hemisphere at about the time that the Earth
is
nearest the Sun. Is this important? Is there a reason why the times of
solstice and perihelion are so close? It turns out that the proximity of
the
two dates is a coincidence of the particular century we live in. The date
of
perihelion does not remain fixed, but, over very long periods of time,
slowly regresses (moves later) within the year. There is some evidence that
this long-term change in the date of perihelion influences the Earth's
climate.


That's called the orbital forcing theory of climate change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_forcing


The only question left is when will we reach the aphelion of the
hyperbole regarding global warming.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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