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Jim Kelley wrote:
Hein ten Horn wrote: Hein ten Horn wrote: quote We hear the average of two frequencies if both frequencies are indistinguishably close, say with a difference of some few hertz. For example, the combination of a 220 Hz signal and a 224 Hz signal with the same amplitude will be perceived as a 4 Hz beat of a 222 Hz tone. unquote From the example: there's no 222 Hz tone in the air. That one I'd like to take back. Obviously the superposition didn't cross my mind. The matter is actually vibrating at the frequency of 222 Hz. Not at 220 Hz or 224 Hz. You were correct before. That's a misunderstanding. A vibrating element here (such as a cubic micrometre of matter) experiences different changing forces. Yet the element cannot follow all of them at the same time. As a matter of fact the resulting force (the resultant) is fully determining the change of the velocity (vector) of the element. The resulting force on our element is changing at the frequency of 222 Hz, so the matter is vibrating at the one and only 222 Hz. It might be correct to say that matter is vibrating at an average, or effective frequency of 222 Hz. No, it is correct. A particle cannot follow two different harmonic oscillations (220 Hz and 224 Hz) at the same time. But the only sine waves present in the air are vibrating at 220 Hz and 224 Hz. If so, we have a very interesting question... What is waving here? A vacuum? But don't take the trouble to answer. You'd better distinguish the behaviour of nature and the way we try to understand and describe all things. As long as both sound sources are vibrating there are no sine waves (220 Hz, 224 Hz) present, yet we do use them to find the frequency of 222 Hz (and the displacement of a vibrating element at a particular location in space on a particular point in time). Obviously. It's a very simple matter to verify this by experiment. Indeed, it is. But watch out for misinterpretations of the measuring results! For example, if a spectrum analyzer, being fed with the 222 Hz signal, shows that the signal can be composed from a 220 Hz and a 224 Hz signal, then that won't mean the matter is actually vibrating at those frequencies. You really ought to perform it (as I just did) before posting further on the subject. I did happen to see interference of waterwaves including some beautiful (changing) hyperbolic structures, but no sign of any sine wave at all. So, with your kind permission, here's my posting. ;-) gr, Hein |
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