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Default Sony ICF-S10MK2 -- Anyone here use it?

Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?

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On Aug 12, 2:46?am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:
Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?

-j


I have a handful of these - from Maryland I pick up most of the 50KW
AMs at night up to 1000 miles (WHO and WWL). Considering the
possibility of HD/IBOC being approved for nighttime (but, that seems
less likely now that Mexico has objected, as HD/IBOC violates
international treaties, and Canada may follow-suit), I wouldn't spend
too much for a good AM DXing radio. Ther radio is an excellent, cheap
but good quality radio. For more on the HD/IBOC violations got he

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/

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On Aug 12, 2:46?am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:
Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?

-j


I have a handful of these - from Maryland I pick up most of the 50KW
AMs at night up to 1000 miles (WHO and WWL). Considering the
possibility of HD/IBOC being approved for nighttime (but, that seems
less likely now that Mexico has objected, as HD/IBOC violates
international treaties, and Canada may follow-suit), I wouldn't spend
too much for a good AM DXing radio. Ther radio is an excellent, cheap
but good quality radio. For more on the HD/IBOC violations got he

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/


Thanks for the ideas and link.
-j
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I just bought one two weeks ago to try out. First, it is a $10 radio, so it
won't match up to larger radios like the GE Super Radio. It is the best $10
portable I have own. On AM, for some reason it is a
more effective at night than daytime. At night, it pulls in tons of
stations up to 500 or so miles away and holds it own.
I suspect under good conditions it may pull in stations 1000 miles away. In
the daytime, it actually is respectable with stations up to 50 miles from
me. Two stations I consider DX material at 100 miles and 250 miles away it
is mediocre...though a SelectAntenna would likely pull them in strong used
with this radio. That being said, the GE Super Radio does a fair job on
these distant stations without help. On the FM side, it is somewhat
impressive for a $10 radio. It outdoes some of my other FM radios that cost
$40 or so. Decent FM reception, slightly below the GE Super Radio though.
So in summary, for $10 it is worth the price and does decent AM DX at night,
and worthwhile for daytime stations upto 50 miles away. FM is pretty decent.
A very good carry around portable for ball games and stuff.
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Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?

-j



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I just bought one two weeks ago to try out. First, it is a $10 radio, so it
won't match up to larger radios like the GE Super Radio. It is the best $10
portable I have own. On AM, for some reason it is a
more effective at night than daytime.


IIRC, that's because when the sun isn't hitting it, the ionoshpere is a
better reflector of radio waves. I think it's called the "F layer". I'm
too lazy to wiki it right now, and I'm sure someone here will correct
my errors. :-) [When i was in high school, i read the RAHB; i admit i
haven't kept up.]

At night, it pulls in tons of
stations up to 500 or so miles away and holds it own.
I suspect under good conditions it may pull in stations 1000 miles away. In
the daytime, it actually is respectable with stations up to 50 miles from
me. Two stations I consider DX material at 100 miles and 250 miles away it
is mediocre...though a SelectAntenna would likely pull them in strong used
with this radio. That being said, the GE Super Radio does a fair job on
these distant stations without help. On the FM side, it is somewhat
impressive for a $10 radio. It outdoes some of my other FM radios that cost
$40 or so. Decent FM reception, slightly below the GE Super Radio though.
So in summary, for $10 it is worth the price and does decent AM DX at night,
and worthwhile for daytime stations upto 50 miles away. FM is pretty decent.
A very good carry around portable for ball games and stuff.
"JoanD'arcRoast" wrote in message
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Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?

-j




THanks for the input!
-j


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On Aug 12, 2:46 am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:
Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?

-j


I would spend a few more $$ and look for a receiver with a digital
tuner. The tiny inaccurate dial on that radio would be a real PITA to
use with a loop. Move upsacle to something like a Degen DE1103 and
enjoy dxing the MW band with or without a separate loop.

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On Aug 14, 10:50 am, Roadie wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:46 am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:

Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?


-j


I would spend a few more $$ and look for a receiver with a digital
tuner. The tiny inaccurate dial on that radio would be a real PITA to
use with a loop. Move upsacle to something like a Degen DE1103 and
enjoy dxing the MW band with or without a separate loop.



The Degen 1102 actually comes with a small (~3 meter or so) longwire
antenna that is pluggable into a jack on the side. It is intended for
SW, but should work with MW. Tiny radios like the S10 are intended
only for local reception. Any DX you may get is incidental. When I
lived in downtown Sacramento in 2001-02, I had a S10 strapped to the
handlebars of my bicycle with plastic ties (my license was suspended
for a while). Nice radio, and worked well without the whip extended on
FM. It tended to switch to AM with a bounce, though. I would wonder
why my music station suddenly went Mexican on me. Whenever that little
switch got moved, I'd simply move it back. The Degen is meant for DX.

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In article . com,
American Insurgent wrote:

On Aug 14, 10:50 am, Roadie wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:46 am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:

Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?


-j


I would spend a few more $$ and look for a receiver with a digital
tuner. The tiny inaccurate dial on that radio would be a real PITA to
use with a loop. Move upsacle to something like a Degen DE1103 and
enjoy dxing the MW band with or without a separate loop.



The Degen 1102 actually comes with a small (~3 meter or so) longwire
antenna that is pluggable into a jack on the side. It is intended for
SW, but should work with MW. Tiny radios like the S10 are intended
only for local reception. Any DX you may get is incidental. When I
lived in downtown Sacramento in 2001-02, I had a S10 strapped to the
handlebars of my bicycle with plastic ties (my license was suspended
for a while). Nice radio, and worked well without the whip extended on
FM. It tended to switch to AM with a bounce, though. I would wonder
why my music station suddenly went Mexican on me. Whenever that little
switch got moved, I'd simply move it back. The Degen is meant for DX.


Thanks for the input. Trying to go cheap and light. ...and if I drop a
$10 radio into the gorge, no tears -- just alot of expletives...

-j
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On Aug 16, 1:20 pm, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:
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Thanks for the input. Trying to go cheap and light. ...and if I drop a
$10 radio into the gorge, no tears -- just alot of expletives...


It's good for what it is. I own one and it's my main knock-about
portable, especially when I travel somewhere. I listen to much more
MW and FM than SW so that's why I tend to just carry a normal radio
with me.

Sound is good for its size and sensitivity also. If possible try to
find one where the tuning knob turns fairly easily - some are way too
tight for my taste. I checked out a few until I found one that just
"felt" right.

My only complaints are the swing-out FM antenna (much prefer it to
come straight out the top) and the fact that the MW doesn't go up to
17.

I took it with me to South Korea just recently and it worked quite
nicely. Even picked up some Chinese blowtorches at night, although in
that part of the world, that's not such a big deal for a good quality
radio.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

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On Aug 16, 1:20?pm, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:
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American Insurgent wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:50 am, Roadie wrote:
On Aug 12, 2:46 am, JoanD'arcRoast wrote:


Do you recommend it for MWDX, or is it just inexpensive? Is it
selective and sensitive enough for DX? Audio good enough for solid QRZ?
Will an external outdoor antenna overload it?


-j


I would spend a few more $$ and look for a receiver with a digital
tuner. The tiny inaccurate dial on that radio would be a real PITA to
use with a loop. Move upsacle to something like a Degen DE1103 and
enjoy dxing the MW band with or without a separate loop.


The Degen 1102 actually comes with a small (~3 meter or so) longwire
antenna that is pluggable into a jack on the side. It is intended for
SW, but should work with MW. Tiny radios like the S10 are intended
only for local reception. Any DX you may get is incidental. When I
lived in downtown Sacramento in 2001-02, I had a S10 strapped to the
handlebars of my bicycle with plastic ties (my license was suspended
for a while). Nice radio, and worked well without the whip extended on
FM. It tended to switch to AM with a bounce, though. I would wonder
why my music station suddenly went Mexican on me. Whenever that little
switch got moved, I'd simply move it back. The Degen is meant for DX.


Thanks for the input. Trying to go cheap and light. ...and if I drop a
$10 radio into the gorge, no tears -- just alot of expletives...

-j
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