Zeke Zzzppt wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Don't do business with the Huntington Investment Company.

wrote:

By the way, did you lose some of your welfare (AKA "social security")

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure you will), but broadly speaking,
"Social Security" is returning OUR money that WE had to pay into the
system for our entire working careers. Getting our own money back can
hardly be construed as "welfare".

wrote:

Did they [Huntington] put a gun to your head and make you give them your money? Be
a man and stop whining, complaining and blaming others for your own
inadequacies.

Now don't be too hard on Steve...he's a finance guy who tells
us about his Accounting/ Bookkeeping degree. If Huntington can do this
to a big-time finance guy with a financial degree like Steve, there's no
telling what these Huntington guys can do to us poor slobs that aren't
as financially astute as Steve.

Steve, thanks for the "heads-up".

Here is one of my favourite funds:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=FSEAX

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Don't do business with the Huntington Investment Company.

wrote:

On Aug 21, 2:10 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
Ironic, that the very technology that permits you to publish
worldwide this diatribe about NASA....is a by-product of the space
program.- Hide quoted text -

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Bull****. The internet would have, and did, evolve with or without the
existence of NASA. It's not surprising that their PR Dept. tries to
lay claim to makiing it all possible - a typical bureaucratic self
congratulatory agrandizement tactic while trying to justify its
existence. Raison d'être!
perhaps you need to read your history a bit more.
computer technology (such as that used on the internet) was directly
descended from research projects at AT&T and NASA.

If NASA had not existed, and we had NOT gone to the moon, we would still be
using older style modems and probably just getting to the TRS-80 Model 1
about now.

AMEN!!!! I used to work for them, and finally quit, nothing to do.
Every day the guy in charge would try to rack his brain to find
some project to do. Funny part, they all pretended they were
doing something useful and patriotic. What a waste.



On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:41:56 -0700, wrote:


wrote:
Due to come home this morning.I think the lady at NASA said 11:32 AM
Central Standard Time.
I will be watching the NASA channel, 376 on DirecTV.
cuhulin

How exciting! Are the astronauts sober? Did the love birds all get
along this trip? With Casanova astronauts, love triangles, diapers and
kidnappings and all it's a wonder they have time to be "heroes". I
guess since computers do all the important tasks that leaves the
"heroes" with plenty of free time.

What a colossal waste of taxpayers money. The make jobs operation
called NASA should have been defunded decades ago. If the egg head
PhD.'s want to play space cadets they should do it at their own
expense or by private enterprise. Instead, hard working average
Americans are forced to pay for it.

I guess you have to give credit to the NASA public relations machine
though. They've managed to perpetuate the con game for over 40 years
now in spite of the glaring incompetence of the agency.

Oooooo!!! Weeeee! More pictures of rocks and dust Mildred!!! WOW!!! I
AM SO PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN!!!!!!!!

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
wrote:

[snip]


The transistor was invented in 1947. It took nearly a decade before
it was incorporated into a product because market forces are also
possessed of considerable inertia. And then it was trivial applications
like transistor radios. Production was slow, and rejection and failure
rates were high.

I know I'm sorta nitpicking here, but the transistor we're familiar with,
the junction transistor was invented in 48, but Bell Labs didn't announce it
until 1951. It was first commercially used in hearing aids in 1952.

http://semiconductormuseum.com/Photo...lery_CK718.htm


However, with mission critical pressures of the space program,
techniques needed to be developed to produce large scale miniaturized
electronics working at frequencies not even considered in terrestrial
applications. Which led to microwave technological innovations on a
grand scale. Driven by lower cost, higher volume, reliable production of
solid state devices, and rapid development of miniaturized computer
driven hardware.

Fuel cell technology had been known since WWII, but had never had a
real application. Practical results in the space program have given us
real world workable fuel cell technologies.

Battery technology developed by orders of magnitude through the space
program.

And medical knowledge has expanded more than a thousand fold through
the space program.

And all that can be said in spades for military technological development.

I used to have an old Radio-Electronics magazine from 1965 or so which
included an article about the upcoming integrated circuit revolution. It
said that 90% of the then current IC production capacity was being used for
military production. It was expected to be 50-50 around 1970 and then
consumer production would explode.

The silicon transistor was developed around 1955 and it's early production
was also dominated by the military.

[snip]

Frank Dresser

wrote in message
...
Due to come home this morning.I think the lady at NASA said 11:32 AM
Central Standard Time.
I will be watching the NASA channel, 376 on DirecTV.
cuhulin


It's ENDEAVOUR actually.


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net

Frank Dresser wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
wrote:

[snip]

The transistor was invented in 1947. It took nearly a decade before
it was incorporated into a product because market forces are also
possessed of considerable inertia. And then it was trivial applications
like transistor radios. Production was slow, and rejection and failure
rates were high.

I know I'm sorta nitpicking here, but the transistor we're familiar with,
the junction transistor was invented in 48, but Bell Labs didn't announce it
until 1951. It was first commercially used in hearing aids in 1952.



According to Shockley's papers, 1947.

I'm not familiar with the hearing aid appliction. Again, Shockely's
papers report the first use in 56 or 57, in consumer entertainment
applications.

Not bad for what was intended to be an industrial switch.

Thanks for the tip, though.


http://semiconductormuseum.com/Photo...lery_CK718.htm

However, with mission critical pressures of the space program,
techniques needed to be developed to produce large scale miniaturized
electronics working at frequencies not even considered in terrestrial
applications. Which led to microwave technological innovations on a
grand scale. Driven by lower cost, higher volume, reliable production of
solid state devices, and rapid development of miniaturized computer
driven hardware.

Fuel cell technology had been known since WWII, but had never had a
real application. Practical results in the space program have given us
real world workable fuel cell technologies.

Battery technology developed by orders of magnitude through the space
program.

And medical knowledge has expanded more than a thousand fold through
the space program.

And all that can be said in spades for military technological development.

I used to have an old Radio-Electronics magazine from 1965 or so which
included an article about the upcoming integrated circuit revolution. It
said that 90% of the then current IC production capacity was being used for
military production. It was expected to be 50-50 around 1970 and then
consumer production would explode.


Oh yeah. The technology that came out of WWII for instance fueled
generations of innovation.



The silicon transistor was developed around 1955 and it's early production
was also dominated by the military.


I remember reading that military leaders attempted to corral all
silicon transistor production to keep it out of the hands of general
interests, and our enemies.

The Cold War did wonders for technological evolution.

CBX, did you say you used to work for them, as in NASA? Was there a
woman who worked there when you was there? I think her last name is
Green.Did you read that article in Popular Mechanics magazine about five
something years ago about that woman who retired from NASA and she said
NASA is broken.I have that magazine floatin around here somewhere,
(because I subscribe to that magazine (Popular Science magazine too,
snail mail home delivery) but it would take me forever to find it.I am
sooooo unorganized and lazyyyy.Head on over to your local area libraries
and see can you find that article.If you do, copy it on a library
copying machine and take it home and scan it and post it in this
newsgroup for all the World to read.
cuhulin

And whilst is while, Actually.
cuhulin

wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:18:31 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:08:14 GMT, D Peter Maus
setback.
it can't do the tasks we built it for it is just that simple I am glad
they have things it can do but it isn't what we paid for
It is. It's just not reached its full potential, yet. For the reasons
I've stated.
it has no such poetencail

because NASA settled for what they got

Then why don't you help them remedy this? Complaining to RRS won't
get you where you want to go.

I have done what I can, nor have ever sugested that complaining RRS
will aidNASA till this monet

complaining wher e the shutle and NASA comes up rasies awareness that
there is something wrong with NASA




So, then, by shouting on street corners to those who cannot effect
change, you're doing a pubic service.

Thanks for that clarification.






"one useless man is disgrace 2 become a law firm 3 or more become a congress"
adams

woger you are a Congress all in your own head

http://kb9rqz.bravejournal.com/

G

wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:07:43 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:18:31 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:08:14 GMT, D Peter Maus
setback.
it can't do the tasks we built it for it is just that simple I am glad
they have things it can do but it isn't what we paid for
It is. It's just not reached its full potential, yet. For the reasons
I've stated.
it has no such poetencail

because NASA settled for what they got
Then why don't you help them remedy this? Complaining to RRS won't
get you where you want to go.
I have done what I can, nor have ever sugested that complaining RRS
will aidNASA till this monet

complaining wher e the shutle and NASA comes up rasies awareness that
there is something wrong with NASA



So, then, by shouting on street corners to those who cannot effect
change, you're doing a pubic service.

but indeed we can effect change slowly and painfully but we can



Yes, I see what changes you've effected.

Impressive.