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![]() "Roadie" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 10, 12:42 pm, Rfburns wrote: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 at 4:07 PM Tags: HD Radio I'm hearing some very interesting rumors about iBiquity, the company behind terrestrial radio's savior technology HD Radio (just a little refresher, the "HD" doesn't actually stand for "high definition" - funny huh?). Word has it that iBiquity is experiencing so much financial mayhem that they've stopped all projects, both current and future, and are regrouping or possibily worse. Rather than posting messages with vague unsupported claims why don't you give us the details. Where did you read the rumors, who wrote them and most importantly what specifically was written (or spoken). iBiquity is owned by private equity firms and by the major station groups. It does not put out financials to Wall Street. |
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On Sep 10, 7:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 10, 12:42 pm, Rfburns wrote: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 at 4:07 PM Tags: HD Radio I'm hearing some very interesting rumors about iBiquity, the company behind terrestrial radio's savior technology HD Radio (just a little refresher, the "HD" doesn't actually stand for "high definition" - funny huh?). Word has it that iBiquity is experiencing so much financial mayhem that they've stopped all projects, both current and future, and are regrouping or possibily worse. Rather than posting messages with vague unsupported claims why don't you give us the details. Where did you read the rumors, who wrote them and most importantly what specifically was written (or spoken). iBiquity is owned by private equity firms and by the major station groups. It does not put out financials to Wall Street.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I wonder why - just like Clear Channel, that want to go private. Both companies are DOA. |
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![]() "IBOCcrock" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 10, 7:18?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Roadie" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 10, 12:42 pm, Rfburns wrote: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 at 4:07 PM Tags: HD Radio I'm hearing some very interesting rumors about iBiquity, the company behind terrestrial radio's savior technology HD Radio (just a little refresher, the "HD" doesn't actually stand for "high definition" - funny huh?). Word has it that iBiquity is experiencing so much financial mayhem that they've stopped all projects, both current and future, and are regrouping or possibily worse. Rather than posting messages with vague unsupported claims why don't you give us the details. Where did you read the rumors, who wrote them and most importantly what specifically was written (or spoken). iBiquity is owned by private equity firms and by the major station groups. It does not put out financials to Wall Street.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I wonder why - just like Clear Channel, that want to go private. Both companies are DOA. Right. Clear is cash flowing in a significant manner, and they feel the market undervalues them. That is why they are going private. iBiquity is private for the same reason many companies want to stay private: they do not want to live the quarterly harassment of earnings reports, Sarbox, and running the business to please Wall Street. It allows more long range planning, and less knee jerking to the street. |
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On Sep 10, 4:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 10, 12:42 pm, Rfburns wrote: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 at 4:07 PM Tags: HD Radio I'm hearing some very interesting rumors about iBiquity, the company behind terrestrial radio's savior technology HD Radio (just a little refresher, the "HD" doesn't actually stand for "high definition" - funny huh?). Word has it that iBiquity is experiencing so much financial mayhem that they've stopped all projects, both current and future, and are regrouping or possibily worse. Rather than posting messages with vague unsupported claims why don't you give us the details. Where did you read the rumors, who wrote them and most importantly what specifically was written (or spoken). - Biquity is owned by private equity firms - and by the major station groups. - It does not put out financials to Wall Street. DE -ergo- They Sold a Bill-of-Goods to Themselves. Sort of like the Pig that bought a Pig-in-the-Poke because he thought He was Investing in Himself. This is Your Ears on HD Radio beyond the 10 mv/m Contour { S i l e n c e } Any Questions ? life exists and radio listening happens beyond the 10 mv/m contour ~ RHF |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:18:00 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote: "Roadie" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 10, 12:42 pm, Rfburns wrote: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 at 4:07 PM Tags: HD Radio I'm hearing some very interesting rumors about iBiquity, the company behind terrestrial radio's savior technology HD Radio (just a little refresher, the "HD" doesn't actually stand for "high definition" - funny huh?). Word has it that iBiquity is experiencing so much financial mayhem that they've stopped all projects, both current and future, and are regrouping or possibily worse. Rather than posting messages with vague unsupported claims why don't you give us the details. Where did you read the rumors, who wrote them and most importantly what specifically was written (or spoken). iBiquity is owned by private equity firms and by the major station groups. It does not put out financials to Wall Street. The owners of Ibiquity are publicentities who must account for every penny. Word gets around. HD is a big flop. |
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![]() "David" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:18:00 -0700, "David Eduardo" wrote: iBiquity is owned by private equity firms and by the major station groups. It does not put out financials to Wall Street. The owners of Ibiquity are publicentities who must account for every penny. Word gets around. HD is a big flop. There are two groups who "own" iBiquity. The first, the private capital investors, expect a return on capital. But they do not always expect instant returns in the form of dividends, etc., or the same sector would not invest in startups, genetic research, biomed companies, etc. They expect that, after a number of years, they can either take the company public or sell to a larger company. These private equity investors are, by definition, NOT public entities. The broadcast investors, in my experience, invested to insure a single technology would be developed, avoiding the multi-technology disputes that surrounded the AM stereo debacle. They also wanted a single system for AM and FM, hoping the developed technology might help "drag up" AM before it became totally unviable. One can almost look at the radio company investments as if they were donations or seed capital; no radio company is expecting a return on these relatively small investments that are, I believe, all less than $10 million each. |
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On Sep 11, 12:17?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:18:00 -0700, "David Eduardo" wrote: iBiquity is owned by private equity firms and by the major station groups. It does not put out financials to Wall Street. The owners of Ibiquity are publicentities who must account for every penny. Word gets around. HD is a big flop. There are two groups who "own" iBiquity. The first, the private capital investors, expect a return on capital. But they do not always expect instant returns in the form of dividends, etc., or the same sector would not invest in startups, genetic research, biomed companies, etc. They expect that, after a number of years, they can either take the company public or sell to a larger company. These private equity investors are, by definition, NOT public entities. The broadcast investors, in my experience, invested to insure a single technology would be developed, avoiding the multi-technology disputes that surrounded the AM stereo debacle. They also wanted a single system for AM and FM, hoping the developed technology might help "drag up" AM before it became totally unviable. One can almost look at the radio company investments as if they were donations or seed capital; no radio company is expecting a return on these relatively small investments that are, I believe, all less than $10 million each. iBiquity is on the ropes and the mad dogs are at their door: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...y-be-near.html |
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:17:27 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote: There are two groups who "own" iBiquity. The first, the private capital investors, expect a return on capital. But they do not always expect instant returns in the form of dividends, etc., or the same sector would not invest in startups, genetic research, biomed companies, etc. They expect that, after a number of years, they can either take the company public or sell to a larger company. These private equity investors are, by definition, NOT public entities. The broadcast investors, in my experience, invested to insure a single technology would be developed, avoiding the multi-technology disputes that surrounded the AM stereo debacle. They also wanted a single system for AM and FM, hoping the developed technology might help "drag up" AM before it became totally unviable. One can almost look at the radio company investments as if they were donations or seed capital; no radio company is expecting a return on these relatively small investments that are, I believe, all less than $10 million each. It's still a massive flop. |
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On Sep 12, 6:47 am, David wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:17:27 GMT, "David Eduardo" wrote: There are two groups who "own" iBiquity. The first, the private capital investors, expect a return on capital. But they do not always expect instant returns in the form of dividends, etc., or the same sector would not invest in startups, genetic research, biomed companies, etc. They expect that, after a number of years, they can either take the company public or sell to a larger company. These private equity investors are, by definition, NOT public entities. The broadcast investors, in my experience, invested to insure a single technology would be developed, avoiding the multi-technology disputes that surrounded the AM stereo debacle. They also wanted a single system for AM and FM, hoping the developed technology might help "drag up" AM before it became totally unviable. One can almost look at the radio company investments as if they were donations or seed capital; no radio company is expecting a return on these relatively small investments that are, I believe, all less than $10 million each. It's still a massive flop.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - David - In Memory of Cuhulin "flop" like a Pancake Hummm Pancakes ! http://www.devilfinder.com/ 'pancakes' ~ RHF |
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On Sep 11, 12:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:18:00 -0700, "David Eduardo" wrote: iBiquity is owned by private equity firms and by the major station groups. It does not put out financials to Wall Street. The owners of Ibiquity are publicentities who must account for every penny. Word gets around. HD is a big flop. There are two groups who "own" iBiquity. The first, the private capital investors, expect a return on capital. But they do not always expect instant returns in the form of dividends, etc., or the same sector would not invest in startups, genetic research, biomed companies, etc. They expect that, after a number of years, they can either take the company public or sell to a larger company. These private equity investors are, by definition, NOT public entities. The broadcast investors, in my experience, invested to insure a single technology would be developed, avoiding the multi-technology disputes that surrounded the AM stereo debacle. They also wanted a single system for AM and FM, hoping the developed technology might help "drag up" AM before it became totally unviable. One can almost look at the radio company investments as if they were donations or seed capital; no radio company is expecting a return on these relatively small investments that are, I believe, all less than $10 million each. "IBiquity Digital's Make-or-Break Point Approaches" February 2005 "If we had this conversation seven years ago and you were to tell me that in 2004 this company would still be private and raising funds, I'd probably have keeled over, said Thomas Uhlman, a managing partner at iBiquity's largest shareholder, New Venture Partners LLC" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005Feb27.html |
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