Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area and
the FCC doesn't care that you can't hear your favorite station
anymore. Try and contact them.

HD AM is here to stay. 100 yrs of tradition has been given to the
highest bidder and the consumer lost.

Try and find an HD radio. The salesman just looks at you wondering
what you're talking about.

The FCC says - "let the market decide". The market did decide by
little or no need for HD but that was just a smoke screen because you
get it anyway.

It's over.

jw

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

On Sep 18, 12:27 pm, Rfburns wrote:
Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area and
the FCC doesn't care that you can't hear your favorite station
anymore. Try and contact them.

HD AM is here to stay. 100 yrs of tradition has been given to the
highest bidder and the consumer lost.

Try and find an HD radio. The salesman just looks at you wondering
what you're talking about.

The FCC says - "let the market decide". The market did decide by
little or no need for HD but that was just a smoke screen because you
get it anyway.

It's over.

jw

You may be right, though I will say that the destructive effects of
nighttime IBOC are much more noticeable (and horrible) than I ever
anticipated.

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

On Sep 18, 9:27 am, Rfburns wrote:
Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area and
the FCC doesn't care that you can't hear your favorite station
anymore. Try and contact them.

HD AM is here to stay. 100 yrs of tradition has been given to the
highest bidder and the consumer lost.

Try and find an HD radio. The salesman just looks at you wondering
what you're talking about.

- The FCC says - "let the market decide".

RF Burns - The Market Place Is The Answer
-and- The Market Place Is The Local Advertisers

READ : Fighting IBOC Digital Noise and Interference :
The "Local" Radio Advertisers Are The Answer.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f8ad97f397c501


- The market did decide by little or no need for HD
- but that was just a smoke screen because you
- get it anyway.
-
- It's over.
-
- jw

I Ask Myself : What IBOC ?
All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF
In the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go :
Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour.

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

On Sep 18, 12:27 pm, Rfburns wrote:
Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area and
the FCC doesn't care that you can't hear your favorite station
anymore. Try and contact them.

HD AM is here to stay. 100 yrs of tradition has been given to the
highest bidder and the consumer lost.

Try and find an HD radio. The salesman just looks at you wondering
what you're talking about.

The FCC says - "let the market decide". The market did decide by
little or no need for HD but that was just a smoke screen because you
get it anyway.

It's over.

jw

It's not over:

"4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio"

http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm

The end may be near:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...y-be-near.html

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

On Sep 18, 4:39?pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 18, 12:27 pm, Rfburns wrote:
Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area and
the FCC doesn't care that you can't hear your favorite station
anymore. Try and contact them.

HD AM is here to stay. 100 yrs of tradition has been given to the
highest bidder and the consumer lost.

Try and find an HD radio. The salesman just looks at you wondering
what you're talking about.

The FCC says - "let the market decide". The market did decide by
little or no need for HD but that was just a smoke screen because you
get it anyway.

It's over.

jw

It's not over:

"4/4/07 - FCC: Market to Decide Fate of HD Radio"

http://www.diymedia.net/archive/0407.htm

The end may be near:

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...y-be-near.html

While, God I hope you're right, don't count on IBOC going away
anytime soon. There's been a LOT of money spent, and a huge effort put
into this technology. No one is going to let this go easily. And RADIO,
often being its own worst enemy, especially, will hang onto this until
there is nothing left.

By the time AM Stereo was implemented, it was nearly DOA. And yet, it
took nearly 20 years for it to go away. And, though, noone has that kind
of patience, today, you can expect AM IBOC to linger long after the AM
Band is dead, dead, dead.

RADIO is determined that there will be a digital solution to both its
problems and its non-problems come Hell or high water.

No one wants to see this horse**** go away more than I do, but as
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No offense, but you need to do more research.

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
By the time AM Stereo was implemented, it was nearly DOA. And yet, it
took nearly 20 years for it to go away. And, though, noone has that kind
of patience, today, you can expect AM IBOC to linger long after the AM
Band is dead, dead, dead.

AMS didn't prevent anyone from listening to their favorite radio station,
and there were many of us out here that enjoyed it a great deal. DX
listening in AMS was actually quite robust.

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

Brenda Ann wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
By the time AM Stereo was implemented, it was nearly DOA. And yet, it
took nearly 20 years for it to go away. And, though, noone has that kind
of patience, today, you can expect AM IBOC to linger long after the AM
Band is dead, dead, dead.

AMS didn't prevent anyone from listening to their favorite radio station,
and there were many of us out here that enjoyed it a great deal. DX
listening in AMS was actually quite robust.




I"m aware of that. And I was among that number. But that's not the
point...the point was, that AMS was nearly DOA, and STILL managed to
hang on for 20 years, despite listener apathy.

IBOC won't die easily.

It may die. But it won't go down without quite a fight.

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

On Sep 18, 12:27 pm, Rfburns wrote:
Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
and

That is true. Radio stations are businesses that depend on
advertising revenue from local sources. I would not expect that a
radio station in Los Angeles would have many advertisers from
Sacramento or Bakersfield. There are more than enough radio stations
to service local areas.



the FCC doesn't care that you can't hear your favorite station
anymore. Try and contact them.

Catching stations from afar is am enjoyable hobby for DXers that
creates no revenue for the radio station. None. There are more than
enough radio stations to service local areas


HD AM is here to stay. 100 yrs of tradition has been given to the
highest bidder and the consumer lost.

Try and find an HD radio. The salesman just looks at you wondering
what you're talking about.

Actually no that is incorrect. Best Buy is running big ads for HD
radios.


The FCC says - "let the market decide".

Yes, market-based allocation of resources is yet another hugely
successful legacy from the Republicans. Just look at what a great job
they did with energy, telephone and airline deregulation. Or what
they did to the tax code in the name of opening up investments.

The market did decide by
little or no need for HD

Uhhh, just when did the market decide there was little or no need for
HD radio. HD radio has really only just become widely available.

but that was just a smoke screen because you
get it anyway.

You seem to be saying that the market creaated a smokescreen, but I'm
sure that is not the case. Who created a smoke screen.

It's over.

At this point I have no interest in buying yet another piece of gear
to receive radio programming that will in alll likelihood be very
similar to what can be gotten over standard radio at no charge. The
programming on HD radio has the potential to be about as interesting
as that available via satellite radio, which is to say not very much.
HD radio does not have an added listening fee which is a minor
benfit.



jw

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

On Sep 19, 8:19 am, Roadie wrote:
On Sep 18, 12:27 pm, Rfburns wrote:

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
and

That is true. Radio stations are businesses that depend on
advertising revenue from local sources. I would not expect that a
radio station in Los Angeles would have many advertisers from
Sacramento or Bakersfield. There are more than enough radio stations
to service local areas.

the FCC doesn't care that you can't hear your favorite station
anymore. Try and contact them.

Catching stations from afar is am enjoyable hobby for DXers that
creates no revenue for the radio station. None. There are more than
enough radio stations to service local areas



HD AM is here to stay. 100 yrs of tradition has been given to the
highest bidder and the consumer lost.

Try and find anHD radio. The salesman just looks at you wondering
what you're talking about.

Actually no that is incorrect. Best Buy is running big ads for HD
radios.



The FCC says - "let the market decide".

Yes, market-based allocation of resources is yet another hugely
successful legacy from the Republicans. Just look at what a great job
they did with energy, telephone and airline deregulation. Or what
they did to the tax code in the name of opening up investments.

The market did decide by
little or no need for HD

Uhhh, just when did the market decide there was little or no need forHD radio. HD radiohas really only just become widely available.

but that was just a smoke screen because you
get it anyway.

You seem to be saying that the market creaated a smokescreen, but I'm
sure that is not the case. Who created a smoke screen.



It's over.

At this point I have no interest in buying yet another piece of gear
to receive radio programming that will in alll likelihood be very
similar to what can be gotten over standard radio at no charge. The
programming onHD radiohas the potential to be about as interesting
as that available via satellite radio, which is to say not very much.HD radiodoes not have an added listening fee which is a minor
benfit.





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Eduardo!

http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/200...y-be-near.html

Stations don't care that you can't hear beyoind thier local area
 

On Sep 19, 8:19 am, Roadie wrote:

Catching stations from afar is am enjoyable hobby for DXers that
creates no revenue for the radio station. None. There are more than
enough radio stations to service local areas

Some areas have people but not enough to warrant a local station (not
enough advertising income). The only things these people have for
radio entertainment are the distant stations.

Or, imagine yourself being in a town with maybe one or two local
audible signals (either FM or AM). And neither is a format you
like....what do you do if you want radio? Gotta DX.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA