On Sep 30, 3:19 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Eric F. Richards" wrote in messagenews:rsiuf3hvji3vahsfoik55m05b39ko3e71i@4ax .com...

"David Eduardo" wrote:

And an FM can not provide the needed service in the Minneapolis case?
[...]

FMs are highly viable still; with few exceptions, AMs are not.

People listened for content. You and your buddies at iBiquity have
destroyed the quality -- what there was -- of the remaining content.
Most people are now listening to their digial audio players, not to
the FMs.

They won't get the news.

How has iBiquity destroyed the quality of FM? There is no degradation of the
FM analog signal to add HD, and saying so is an exaggeration or a lie.

Most people, as in 96% of them, are listening to the radio each week....
same as 1965 when Arbiytron began.

Good luck stopping the internet, Tardo. You have a lot of work to do.

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:48:48 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:

none of us cares about the 0.3% of listening to
out of market signals, by the way.

You...don't...say...

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:57:02 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .

Anybody who listens to AM radio at night around here is likely DXing.

I just ran a multi-book report on your area, called LA / NNE, and found that
less than 10% of all radio listening by 18-54 year olds is to AM. #1 and #2
stations are KLVE and KIIS, both Wilson FMs.

Mount Wilson doesn't come in where I live. I can get KROQ, KYSR, KCRW
and KCSN. Oh yeah, and a country station from Oxnard.

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 05:28:28 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

In article ,
David wrote:

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:27:54 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:




I suppose it was my idea to discontinue the R8B? There was not enough
market, you fool.

Great radio. I'm listening to Wayne Resnik on mine, via a 10" RCA
Tolex speaker box older than I am.

Yuk. That guy is a pervert from the word go.

A pervert?

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:51:31 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



Or, the simple answer: there is a huge decline in the number of SW stations,
and also in SW listeners. Domestic SW, the nicest DX, is all but
disappearing and the quality broadcasters are reducing schedules or
suspending service.

It's a quality receiver extremely well suited for Medium wave
listening. Next solar max (2010?) it'll be pulling in the whole world
like locals on HF.

Steve wrote:
On Sep 30, 1:43 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ...

David Eduardo wrote:

You can't have it both ways, David. You can't insist that Radio is
healthier than ever, and then claim your worry is about the success of
terrestrial radio against alternatives.

But I do not claim that. Radio is in slow revenue growth mode, and this year
may be no-growth (although due to automotive and mortgage / housing crisis
situations) so it is critical to keep the existing audience base, which the
PPPM shows to be a 96% reach of all 6+ Americans.

No, radio isn't in slow growth mode. You're just in talk trash mode.


I sense a lot of animosity against Eduardo, but I think he has a valid
point about the viability of multiple formats. The Baltimore AOR
station has added sub-channels for Classic Rock and Indie Rock, which
is just great for fans of the "rock" genre. Now they can hear music
that they might otherwise not be able to hear. They have more choice.

I know.

You're going to say, "But it's not profitable". Okay well apparently
the station manager disagree with you (which is why he's now
programming 3 channels for his station). BUT even if we assume you're
correct and it's not profitable..... so what?

A station can just as easily broadcast *1* channel at high-quality 300
kbps.

The HD Radio standard is flexible.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message

People listened for content. You and your buddies at iBiquity have
destroyed the quality -- what there was -- of the remaining content.
Most people are now listening to their digial audio players, not to
the FMs. They won't get the news.

How has iBiquity destroyed the quality of FM? There is no degradation of the
FM analog signal to add HD, and saying so is an exaggeration or a lie.




I'd call it a "lie". I still listen to FM, driving across the country
on business trips, and I hear absolutely NO degradation in the
signal. (I wouldn't even know HD exists, if it weren't for the ads.)

Steve wrote:

How has iBiquity destroyed the quality of FM? There is no degradation of the
FM analog signal to add HD, and saying so is an exaggeration or a lie.
Most people, as in 96% of them, are listening to the radio each week....
same as 1965 when Arbitron began.

Good luck stopping the internet, Tardo. You have a lot of work to do.


There's no need. The internet and tradional broadcast radio/tv can
coexist.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon"

I'm sorry, I fail to see the logic of your argument. Try again.


Let's say in Anytown that there are 24 formats that could get over about a 1
share.... in other words, the percentage of listening that would get
advertisers results based on enough listeners hearing the message. But
Anytown has only 12 FM signals that do a decent job of covering the market.
So there are 12 viable formats that are not being done in Anytown, formats
that would be salable, listenable and useful.

So, a station puts one of the viable second tier of formats on


Eminently logical. I've already stated this elsewhere, but it's worth
repeating. The Baltimore station has split into 3 sub-channels:
- AOR
- Classic Rock
- Indie Rock

......thus giving listeners more options, more variety, more music.
It's similar to what's been happening to Cable TV the last ten years,
slowly but surely expanding from ~50 channels to ~200 channels. (And
profiting.)

SFTV_troy wrote:



Eminently logical. I've already stated this elsewhere, but it's worth
repeating. The Baltimore station has split into 3 sub-channels:
- AOR
- Classic Rock
- Indie Rock


So you've given up any pretense of being an actual user and are outing
yourself as a shill? Most users wouldn't feel the need to change
their alias within 24 hours of first appearing on a mailing list
unlesss they were actively working to get around people's kill
filters.


--
Eric F. Richards,
"It's the Din of iBiquity." -- Frank Dresser