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SFTV_troy wrote:

I don't really understand why people are upset about the loss of
DX'ing over AM (only temporarily; it will be restored when AM goes
pure digital). You can still do DX'ing via using services like
shoutcast.com. Just yesterday at work I was listening to an
Australian station. Another favorite of mine is located in England.
DX'ing is still alive and well on the internet.

Uh... that's NOT DX'ing.


It may well become the DXing of the 21st Century.


That may work out for you but most people do not have the self
delusional capacity you possess.


The other way to see this is from the perspective that there are not many AM
(MW) DXers left. The combined IRCA and NRC membership is around or less than
a thousand in North America... compare that to when RaDex was sold at the
news rack at the corner drugstore and DXing was engaged in by millions.


I just do not believe your contention that the numbers of people that
listen to night time AMBCB are small. I think there is a great deal of
regional listening at night and non-local stations during the day where
reception is of good quality such as where I live on the coast. There
are plenty of people that listen to stations that are not local in order
to hear a program not broadcast locally.

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I just do not believe your contention that the numbers of people that
listen to night time AMBCB are small. I think there is a great deal of
regional listening at night and non-local stations during the day where
reception is of good quality such as where I live on the coast. There
are plenty of people that listen to stations that are not local in order
to hear a program not broadcast locally.


There are no facts to support your contention. Listening to out of market
stations is very small (by the way, Ventura, Riverside West and San
Bernardino West are all in the LA DMA... the metro definition that matches
the TV metro area). Still, in your county, there is pretty limited in-market
listening to out of market stations.


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I just do not believe your contention that the numbers of people that
listen to night time AMBCB are small. I think there is a great deal of
regional listening at night and non-local stations during the day where
reception is of good quality such as where I live on the coast. There
are plenty of people that listen to stations that are not local in order
to hear a program not broadcast locally.


There are no facts to support your contention. Listening to out of market
stations is very small (by the way, Ventura, Riverside West and San
Bernardino West are all in the LA DMA... the metro definition that matches
the TV metro area). Still, in your county, there is pretty limited in-market
listening to out of market stations.


You have no facts to support your contention since all the waking hours
revolve around the commercial radio books. The statistics you look at
don't address the regional listening. Now don't go back on the word of
your previous posts.

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Ventura, California
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:52:15 GMT, Telamon
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I just do not believe your contention that the numbers of people that
listen to night time AMBCB are small. I think there is a great deal of
regional listening at night and non-local stations during the day where
reception is of good quality such as where I live on the coast. There
are plenty of people that listen to stations that are not local in order
to hear a program not broadcast locally.


There are no facts to support your contention. Listening to out of market
stations is very small (by the way, Ventura, Riverside West and San
Bernardino West are all in the LA DMA... the metro definition that matches
the TV metro area). Still, in your county, there is pretty limited in-market
listening to out of market stations.


You have no facts to support your contention since all the waking hours
revolve around the commercial radio books. The statistics you look at
don't address the regional listening. Now don't go back on the word of
your previous posts.


Anybody who listens to AM radio at night around here is likely DXing.
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Anybody who listens to AM radio at night around here is likely DXing.


I just ran a multi-book report on your area, called LA / NNE, and found that
less than 10% of all radio listening by 18-54 year olds is to AM. #1 and #2
stations are KLVE and KIIS, both Wilson FMs.




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On Sep 29, 11:57 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Anybody who listens to AM radio at night around here is likely DXing.


I just ran a multi-book report on your area, called LA / NNE, and found that
less than 10% of all radio listening by 18-54 year olds is to AM. #1 and #2
stations are KLVE and KIIS, both Wilson FMs.


Did you do this after you "graduated" from college?

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Anybody who listens to AM radio at night around here is likely DXing.


I just ran a multi-book report on your area, called LA / NNE, and found that
less than 10% of all radio listening by 18-54 year olds is to AM. #1 and #2
stations are KLVE and KIIS, both Wilson FMs.


Did you do this after you "graduated" from college?


When did you learn to be such a poorly-mannered ass?

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Anybody who listens to AM radio at night around here is likely DXing.


I just ran a multi-book report on your area, called LA / NNE, and found that
less than 10% of all radio listening by 18-54 year olds is to AM. #1 and #2
stations are KLVE and KIIS, both Wilson FMs.

Mount Wilson doesn't come in where I live. I can get KROQ, KYSR, KCRW
and KCSN. Oh yeah, and a country station from Oxnard.
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:52:15 GMT, Telamon
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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I just do not believe your contention that the numbers of people that
listen to night time AMBCB are small. I think there is a great deal of
regional listening at night and non-local stations during the day where
reception is of good quality such as where I live on the coast. There
are plenty of people that listen to stations that are not local in order
to hear a program not broadcast locally.

There are no facts to support your contention. Listening to out of market
stations is very small (by the way, Ventura, Riverside West and San
Bernardino West are all in the LA DMA... the metro definition that matches
the TV metro area). Still, in your county, there is pretty limited
in-market
listening to out of market stations.


You have no facts to support your contention since all the waking hours
revolve around the commercial radio books. The statistics you look at
don't address the regional listening. Now don't go back on the word of
your previous posts.


Anybody who listens to AM radio at night around here is likely DXing.


Then I'm an exception. I listen to regional stations for the programming.

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Ventura, California
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"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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I just do not believe your contention that the numbers of people that
listen to night time AMBCB are small. I think there is a great deal of
regional listening at night and non-local stations during the day where
reception is of good quality such as where I live on the coast. There
are plenty of people that listen to stations that are not local in
order
to hear a program not broadcast locally.


There are no facts to support your contention. Listening to out of market
stations is very small (by the way, Ventura, Riverside West and San
Bernardino West are all in the LA DMA... the metro definition that
matches
the TV metro area). Still, in your county, there is pretty limited
in-market
listening to out of market stations.


You have no facts to support your contention since all the waking hours
revolve around the commercial radio books. The statistics you look at
don't address the regional listening. Now don't go back on the word of
your previous posts.


You have a mistaken impression of radio audience measurement. The fact is,
ANY radio station listened to in an Arbitron diary is processed. It does not
matter if it is commercial, public, religious, local, internet, satellite,
or a rare DX catch.

If enough mentions for enough time to create statistical reliability are
made the station is considered "in the book" but the Arbitron software
stations use lets us look at stations that may have a share of 0.0% but did
get one mention....

A sign that out of market listening is insignificant to radio and
advertisers comes with the already started roll out of the electronic People
Meter, which senses encoding on each station. Most "out of market" stations
so far are not encoded as it will not be till the end of next year that the
top 10 markets are on PPM; none of us cares about the 0.3% of listening to
out of market signals, by the way.




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