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Are you saying that not only are there enough HD radios purchased in "a
market" AND by a specific ethnic group to show itself as a "respectable
performer" and by that I take it to mean it is showing good advertising
results? You have certainly reached new heights in the "strange tales
from the pointy haired marketing management side".


We are just now getting our first advertisers on the Tejano network, and we
believe the interest by the lifestyle group has caused a lot more radios to
be sold than we thought. The morning show, which also runs on KXTN in San
Antonio where it is in the top 4 or 5 in rank always, gets half its calls
from the other markets, so someone is listening. And the advertisers who
know the lifestyle are willing to try the network. We have had the morning
talent do appearances in HD only markets with attendance of several hundred.

This is an ideal case of a format with a small but absolutely loyal
following who will spend the money for a radio and listen a lot.


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On Sep 30, 12:38 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Are you saying that not only are there enough HD radios purchased in "a
market" AND by a specific ethnic group to show itself as a "respectable
performer" and by that I take it to mean it is showing good advertising
results? You have certainly reached new heights in the "strange tales
from the pointy haired marketing management side".


We are just now getting our first advertisers on the Tejano network, and we
believe the interest by the lifestyle group has caused a lot more radios to
be sold than we thought. The morning show, which also runs on KXTN in San
Antonio where it is in the top 4 or 5 in rank always, gets half its calls
from the other markets, so someone is listening. And the advertisers who
know the lifestyle are willing to try the network. We have had the morning
talent do appearances in HD only markets with attendance of several hundred.

This is an ideal case of a format with a small but absolutely loyal
following who will spend the money for a radio and listen a lot.


Sorry Tardo, but you'll never stop the internet or internet radio. Not
even you, with all your fancy college degrees and diplomas and
"certificates of completion" and mail order Ph.D.s

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Steve wrote:


Sorry Tardo, but you'll never stop the internet or internet radio.


He (or those who think like him) can destroy conventional radio, and
where it is useful is in times of emergency, such as 9/11 or when a
major river-crossing bridge suddenly ceases to exist.

For a commuter, all that chit-chat between the musical pieces or the
news stories is very useful.

--
Eric F. Richards,
"It's the Din of iBiquity." -- Frank Dresser
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Steve wrote:


Sorry Tardo, but you'll never stop the internet or internet radio.


He (or those who think like him) can destroy conventional radio, and
where it is useful is in times of emergency, such as 9/11 or when a
major river-crossing bridge suddenly ceases to exist.


And an FM can not provide the needed service in the Minneapolis case? Or did
the bridge extend across the entire Great Plains.

WWL was one of the really lucky stations, as it had been hardened. Nearly
nowhere on the Gulf Coast or FL is there a station that sould survive what
WWL went through. The first to go in a hurricane are usually AMs, as the
sites tend to be low and damp. FMs with backups on buildings are the most
robust today. I have been through a bunch of big hurricanes while in PR, and
the AMs never stayed on.... the FMs did.

For a commuter, all that chit-chat between the musical pieces or the
news stories is very useful.


And an FM can not do that?

FMs are highly viable still; with few exceptions, AMs are not.


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And an FM can not provide the needed service in the Minneapolis case? [...]

FMs are highly viable still; with few exceptions, AMs are not.


People listened for content. You and your buddies at iBiquity have
destroyed the quality -- what there was -- of the remaining content.
Most people are now listening to their digial audio players, not to
the FMs.

They won't get the news.

--
Eric F. Richards,
"It's the Din of iBiquity." -- Frank Dresser


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"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote:


And an FM can not provide the needed service in the Minneapolis case?
[...]

FMs are highly viable still; with few exceptions, AMs are not.


People listened for content. You and your buddies at iBiquity have
destroyed the quality -- what there was -- of the remaining content.
Most people are now listening to their digial audio players, not to
the FMs.

They won't get the news.


How has iBiquity destroyed the quality of FM? There is no degradation of the
FM analog signal to add HD, and saying so is an exaggeration or a lie.

Most people, as in 96% of them, are listening to the radio each week....
same as 1965 when Arbiytron began.


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On Sep 30, 3:19 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Eric F. Richards" wrote in messagenews:rsiuf3hvji3vahsfoik55m05b39ko3e71i@4ax .com...

"David Eduardo" wrote:


And an FM can not provide the needed service in the Minneapolis case?
[...]


FMs are highly viable still; with few exceptions, AMs are not.


People listened for content. You and your buddies at iBiquity have
destroyed the quality -- what there was -- of the remaining content.
Most people are now listening to their digial audio players, not to
the FMs.


They won't get the news.


How has iBiquity destroyed the quality of FM? There is no degradation of the
FM analog signal to add HD, and saying so is an exaggeration or a lie.

Most people, as in 96% of them, are listening to the radio each week....
same as 1965 when Arbiytron began.


Good luck stopping the internet, Tardo. You have a lot of work to do.

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David Eduardo wrote:
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People listened for content. You and your buddies at iBiquity have
destroyed the quality -- what there was -- of the remaining content.
Most people are now listening to their digial audio players, not to
the FMs. They won't get the news.


How has iBiquity destroyed the quality of FM? There is no degradation of the
FM analog signal to add HD, and saying so is an exaggeration or a lie.





I'd call it a "lie". I still listen to FM, driving across the country
on business trips, and I hear absolutely NO degradation in the
signal. (I wouldn't even know HD exists, if it weren't for the ads.)

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On Sep 30, 2:41 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Eric F. Richards" wrote in messagenews:dhguf3d0v58pt6igd718rd1l644plch66b@4ax .com...

Steve wrote:


Sorry Tardo, but you'll never stop the internet or internet radio.


He (or those who think like him) can destroy conventional radio, and
where it is useful is in times of emergency, such as 9/11 or when a
major river-crossing bridge suddenly ceases to exist.


And an FM can not provide the needed service in the Minneapolis case? Or did
the bridge extend across the entire Great Plains.

WWL was one of the really lucky stations, as it had been hardened. Nearly
nowhere on the Gulf Coast or FL is there a station that sould survive what
WWL went through. The first to go in a hurricane are usually AMs, as the
sites tend to be low and damp. FMs with backups on buildings are the most
robust today. I have been through a bunch of big hurricanes while in PR, and
the AMs never stayed on.... the FMs did.



For a commuter, all that chit-chat between the musical pieces or the
news stories is very useful.


And an FM can not do that?

FMs are highly viable still; with few exceptions, AMs are not.


Wimax will take care of that.

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