That will millions of radios obsolete. Don't think that will happen.
IBOC will die first...

On Sep 30, 1:37 am, wrote:
On Sep 29, 11:19 pm, RHF wrote:



On Sep 29, 4:16 pm, SFTV_troy wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

What is the reason for your optimism? Every other advance in radio has
been better by design, and demonstrated its improvement from day 1.
Digital radio hasn't done that - it has been poor from day one, and to
be better than its predecessor it will need to get a whole heap better
What do you believe will be the basis of that improvement?

Well FM-Hybrid Digital *already* sounds better than the old analog
FM. The AM also sounds better, albeit at the loss of hearing distant
stations (which can still be done via internet streaming).

Both of these will dramatically improve after the analog shutdown (FM
will have room for 300 kbps per station).

What Analog Shut Down ?

The plan is to kill the analog signals and go strictly digital.

"SFTV_troy" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 3:58 pm, Steve wrote:

Wouldn't it be cool to have 5.1 surround from your radio?

Not if it's to listen to another informercial.



You're the second person to say something like that. But that's not
problem a with HD Radio, because U.S. radio doesn't air infomercials
(half-hour ads).


O yes it does, and in fact, there are stations that do infomercials for
their entire broadcast day.

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo, the faux Hispanic, wrote:

"SFTV_troy" wrote in message
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On Sep 29, 3:58 pm, Steve wrote:

Wouldn't it be cool to have 5.1 surround from your radio?

Not if it's to listen to another informercial.



You're the second person to say something like that. But that's not
problem a with HD Radio, because U.S. radio doesn't air infomercials
(half-hour ads).


O yes it does, and in fact, there are stations that do infomercials for
their entire broadcast day.

Kinda like your ongoing infomercial for HD-IBOC...

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...


In my market, Chicago, the top 2 stations account for about 10% of the
listeners. The bottom 15 on the Arbitron list draw 1% or less. And there
are a number of stations which don't even make the list.


When the People Meter comes, it shows more market compression. In fact, in
Houston, the #1 and the #15 station are only 0.2 ratings points apart.

If you look at the Arbitron numbers, which are the useless 12+ figures, you
will see that in nearly every market there is only one AM in the top 10,
save those markets with multiple full coverage 50 kw stations.... like
Chicago. Bit if you go to 18-54, the sales demo range, only one AM is in the
top 15, WBBM, and it is 10th.

The Arbitron lists cut off at a particular point. I show 39 stations with
some listening in Chicago, while the Arbitron page shows less... but not one
is licensed outside the metro.

On Sep 30, 5:20 am, SFTV_troy wrote:


Yes it does. AM-HD sounds like FM quality. FM-HD sounds near-CD
quality.



I once road in horse drawn carriage whose ride was smooth as silk.
This didn't alter the fact that it was obsolete technology.

Change happens.

Progress is good.

Learn it.

Live it.

Love it.

On Sep 30, 1:45 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message

...



In my market, Chicago, the top 2 stations account for about 10% of the
listeners. The bottom 15 on the Arbitron list draw 1% or less. And there
are a number of stations which don't even make the list.

When the People Meter comes, it shows more market compression. In fact, in
Houston, the #1 and the #15 station are only 0.2 ratings points apart.

If you look at the Arbitron numbers, which are the useless 12+ figures, you
will see that in nearly every market there is only one AM in the top 10,
save those markets with multiple full coverage 50 kw stations.... like
Chicago. Bit if you go to 18-54, the sales demo range, only one AM is in the
top 15, WBBM, and it is 10th.

The Arbitron lists cut off at a particular point. I show 39 stations with
some listening in Chicago, while the Arbitron page shows less... but not one
is licensed outside the metro.

Stop clinging to the past. And while you're at it, stop lying about
the past, too.

Steve wrote:
On Sep 30, 5:20 am, SFTV_troy wrote:


Yes it does. AM-HD sounds like FM quality. FM-HD sounds near-CD
quality.



I once road in horse drawn carriage whose ride was smooth as silk.
This didn't alter the fact that it was obsolete technology.

Change happens.
Progress is good.
Learn it.
Live it.
Love it.


Or buy yourself a coffin, and make room for the younger generation
that is not close-minded and afraid of change.

Some of you have grown into your grandpas.

On Sep 30, 1:37 am, wrote:
On Sep 29, 11:19 pm, RHF wrote:

What Analog Shut Down ?

The plan is to kill the analog signals and go strictly digital.



wrote:
That will millions of radios obsolete. Don't think
that will happen. IBOC will die first...


There are millions of obsolete televisions which will stop working in
just over a year. Does it look like the advertisers care?

They won't care about obsolete radios either.

On Sep 30, 9:15 am, wrote:
Frank Dresser wrote:

In my market, Chicago, the top 2 stations account for about 10% of the
listeners. The bottom 15 on the Arbitron list draw 1% or less. And there
are a number of stations which don't even make the list.

Actually, I just looked at the Chicago market. The ratings don't
support your claim. Even in Chicago, the listeners are fairly evenly
divided amongst the top 20 stations. (ranging from approximately 2 to
5% of the listeners, per station).

That seems to suggest listeners do what I do:
- jump from station to station
- looking for variety across multiple channels
- they would LOVE having 3-4 times more options on the FM dial.


SILENCE?

Guess I caught you in a lie. The Arbitron ratings don't support your
claim, but you're not willing to admit you got caught in alie.

Typical grandpa.