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In article , Randy Yates
wrote:

Telamon writes:
[...]
In article , Randy Yates
wrote:
Amen! Excellent point, Bob.


Oh, I see he made an excellent point by misconstruing my post mocking a
known Troll and can't even get my handle right. I'd sure call that
excellence in posting.


What is excellent is his point that any person who makes
unsubstantiated accusations at a known, identifiable person or
organization while keeping their own identity hidden is, at a minimum,
unethical, and more pointedly, slanderous, spineless, and full of hot
air.


I've been around a long time. Here's a link to a brief biography on me.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/t/telamon.html

I would say I'm much better known and braver than you and Bob put
together.

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Telamon writes:
[...]
I would say ...


I'm sure you would.
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I have naught of these contrivances nor would I move a muscle to cut
cheese over them. Hail Atlantis!


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In article , Randy Yates
wrote:

Telamon writes:
[...]
I would say ...


I'm sure you would.


What a spineless comeback.

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Ventura, California
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On Oct 5, 10:19 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article , Randy Yates
wrote:

Telamon writes:
[...]
I would say ...


I'm sure you would.


What a spineless comeback.

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Eat me also, spinesucker!
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Old October 6th 07, 01:13 PM posted to rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.car,rec.radio.shortwave,ba.broadcast
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On Oct 5, 3:54 am, RHF wrote:
On Oct 4, 10:45 pm, Telamon





wrote:
In article ,
Robert Orban wrote:


In article telamon_spamshield-
,
says...


In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
...


That's funny, I just asked Bob if he 'found' this and he said no way,
that you're basically just making **** up off the top of your head.


Bob didn't test all the different model radios.


He tested enough for a reliable sample of what Americans use. I'm guessing
you don't know who Bob Orban is, so you might google him and the term
Optimod or NRSC to learn a little bit about the man who reinvented audio
processing.


Yep, that where you got stuck somehow.


Reality = Take some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Oops! It's not quite what you wanted. Try again.


Reality = Makeup some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Looking good.


This study, which was done under auspices of the NRSC (of which I am only one
member) was done very carefully. Seehttp://www.nrscstandards.org/andclick
"AM Bandwidth Study."


Telamon
Ventura, California


By the way, "Telemon," to whom am I actually speaking? If you are implying
that the above referenced study was corrupt, I would hope that you would at
least back up your accusation by letting us know your real name and what
evidence you have that the study was flawed.


The only suggestion I have for you Mr. Orban is to work on your reading
comprehension. The handle is Telamon.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now be nice Telamon,

Mister Orban has posted under his own name
and has asked you to reply to him : in kind.

FWIW - Robert {Bob} Orban
* A Short History of Transmission Audio Processing in the United
States
-by- Robert Orban, San Francisco, CAhttp://www.bext.com/histproc.htmhttp://www.261.gr/roberthistory.html
* Optimod "Ask Bob" - Orban/CRL Systems, Inc.http://www.orban.com/support/orban/a...gr/robert.html
* Orban Audio Codec - "Opticodec Line"http://www.orban.com/products/codec/

it's nice to be nice ! RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The fact is, it's pretty well impossible to know when someone is
posting under "their own name" on the internet. The only thing you can
really conclude is that someone is posting under a name which they
intend for you to believe is their own!

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Steve writes:

On Oct 5, 3:54 am, RHF wrote:
On Oct 4, 10:45 pm, Telamon





wrote:
In article ,
Robert Orban wrote:


In article telamon_spamshield-
,
says...


In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
...


That's funny, I just asked Bob if he 'found' this and he said no way,
that you're basically just making **** up off the top of your head.


Bob didn't test all the different model radios.


He tested enough for a reliable sample of what Americans use. I'm guessing
you don't know who Bob Orban is, so you might google him and the term
Optimod or NRSC to learn a little bit about the man who reinvented audio
processing.


Yep, that where you got stuck somehow.


Reality = Take some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Oops! It's not quite what you wanted. Try again.


Reality = Makeup some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Looking good.


This study, which was done under auspices of the NRSC (of which I am only one
member) was done very carefully. Seehttp://www.nrscstandards.org/andclick
"AM Bandwidth Study."


Telamon
Ventura, California


By the way, "Telemon," to whom am I actually speaking? If you are implying
that the above referenced study was corrupt, I would hope that you would at
least back up your accusation by letting us know your real name and what
evidence you have that the study was flawed.


The only suggestion I have for you Mr. Orban is to work on your reading
comprehension. The handle is Telamon.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now be nice Telamon,

Mister Orban has posted under his own name
and has asked you to reply to him : in kind.

FWIW - Robert {Bob} Orban
* A Short History of Transmission Audio Processing in the United
States
-by- Robert Orban, San Francisco, CAhttp://www.bext.com/histproc.htmhttp://www.261.gr/roberthistory.html
* Optimod "Ask Bob" - Orban/CRL Systems, Inc.http://www.orban.com/support/orban/a...gr/robert.html
* Orban Audio Codec - "Opticodec Line"http://www.orban.com/products/codec/

it's nice to be nice ! RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The fact is, it's pretty well impossible to know when someone is
posting under "their own name" on the internet. The only thing you can
really conclude is that someone is posting under a name which they
intend for you to believe is their own!


There's an ancient device known as a telephone that can easily be used
to solve that problem.
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%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % is say I'm sorry,
%%% 919-577-9882 % that's the way it goes..."
%%%% % Getting To The Point', *Balance of Power*, ELO
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"Steve" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Oct 5, 3:54 am, RHF wrote:
On Oct 4, 10:45 pm, Telamon





wrote:
In article ,
Robert Orban wrote:


In article telamon_spamshield-
,
says...


In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in
message
news:telamon_spamshield-
...


That's funny, I just asked Bob if he 'found' this and he said
no way,
that you're basically just making **** up off the top of your
head.


Bob didn't test all the different model radios.


He tested enough for a reliable sample of what Americans use. I'm
guessing
you don't know who Bob Orban is, so you might google him and the
term
Optimod or NRSC to learn a little bit about the man who reinvented
audio
processing.


Yep, that where you got stuck somehow.


Reality = Take some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Oops! It's not quite what you wanted. Try again.


Reality = Makeup some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Looking good.


This study, which was done under auspices of the NRSC (of which I am
only one
member) was done very carefully.
Seehttp://www.nrscstandards.org/andclick
"AM Bandwidth Study."


Telamon
Ventura, California


By the way, "Telemon," to whom am I actually speaking? If you are
implying
that the above referenced study was corrupt, I would hope that you
would at
least back up your accusation by letting us know your real name and
what
evidence you have that the study was flawed.


The only suggestion I have for you Mr. Orban is to work on your reading
comprehension. The handle is Telamon.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now be nice Telamon,

Mister Orban has posted under his own name
and has asked you to reply to him : in kind.

FWIW - Robert {Bob} Orban
* A Short History of Transmission Audio Processing in the United
States
-by- Robert Orban, San Francisco,
CAhttp://www.bext.com/histproc.htmhttp://www.261.gr/roberthistory.html
* Optimod "Ask Bob" - Orban/CRL Systems,
Inc.http://www.orban.com/support/orban/a...gr/robert.html
* Orban Audio Codec - "Opticodec
Line"http://www.orban.com/products/codec/

it's nice to be nice ! RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


The fact is, it's pretty well impossible to know when someone is
posting under "their own name" on the internet. The only thing you can
really conclude is that someone is posting under a name which they
intend for you to believe is their own!


When it comes to content, nobody can duplicate one of Bob Orban's posts.


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On Oct 6, 11:48 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

ps.com...





On Oct 5, 3:54 am, RHF wrote:
On Oct 4, 10:45 pm, Telamon


wrote:
In article ,
Robert Orban wrote:


In article telamon_spamshield-
,
says...


In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in
message
news:telamon_spamshield-
...


That's funny, I just asked Bob if he 'found' this and he said
no way,
that you're basically just making **** up off the top of your
head.


Bob didn't test all the different model radios.


He tested enough for a reliable sample of what Americans use. I'm
guessing
you don't know who Bob Orban is, so you might google him and the
term
Optimod or NRSC to learn a little bit about the man who reinvented
audio
processing.


Yep, that where you got stuck somehow.


Reality = Take some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Oops! It's not quite what you wanted. Try again.


Reality = Makeup some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Looking good.


This study, which was done under auspices of the NRSC (of which I am
only one
member) was done very carefully.
Seehttp://www.nrscstandards.org/andclick
"AM Bandwidth Study."


Telamon
Ventura, California


By the way, "Telemon," to whom am I actually speaking? If you are
implying
that the above referenced study was corrupt, I would hope that you
would at
least back up your accusation by letting us know your real name and
what
evidence you have that the study was flawed.


The only suggestion I have for you Mr. Orban is to work on your reading
comprehension. The handle is Telamon.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now be nice Telamon,


Mister Orban has posted under his own name
and has asked you to reply to him : in kind.


FWIW - Robert {Bob} Orban
* A Short History of Transmission Audio Processing in the United
States
-by- Robert Orban, San Francisco,
CAhttp://www.bext.com/histproc.htmhttp://www.261.gr/roberthistory.html
* Optimod "Ask Bob" - Orban/CRL Systems,
Inc.http://www.orban.com/support/orban/a...gr/robert.html
* Orban Audio Codec - "Opticodec
Line"http://www.orban.com/products/codec/


it's nice to be nice ! RHF
.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The fact is, it's pretty well impossible to know when someone is
posting under "their own name" on the internet. The only thing you can
really conclude is that someone is posting under a name which they
intend for you to believe is their own!


When it comes to content, nobody can duplicate one of Bob Orban's posts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And do you have any evidence to back up this assertion?

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On Oct 6, 9:10 am, Randy Yates wrote:
Steve writes:
On Oct 5, 3:54 am, RHF wrote:
On Oct 4, 10:45 pm, Telamon


wrote:
In article ,
Robert Orban wrote:


In article telamon_spamshield-
,
says...


In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
...


That's funny, I just asked Bob if he 'found' this and he said no way,
that you're basically just making **** up off the top of your head.


Bob didn't test all the different model radios.


He tested enough for a reliable sample of what Americans use. I'm guessing
you don't know who Bob Orban is, so you might google him and the term
Optimod or NRSC to learn a little bit about the man who reinvented audio
processing.


Yep, that where you got stuck somehow.


Reality = Take some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Oops! It's not quite what you wanted. Try again.


Reality = Makeup some samples + apply statistics + shake vigorously


Looking good.


This study, which was done under auspices of the NRSC (of which I am only one
member) was done very carefully. Seehttp://www.nrscstandards.org/andclick
"AM Bandwidth Study."


Telamon
Ventura, California


By the way, "Telemon," to whom am I actually speaking? If you are implying
that the above referenced study was corrupt, I would hope that you would at
least back up your accusation by letting us know your real name and what
evidence you have that the study was flawed.


The only suggestion I have for you Mr. Orban is to work on your reading
comprehension. The handle is Telamon.


--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Now be nice Telamon,


Mister Orban has posted under his own name
and has asked you to reply to him : in kind.


FWIW - Robert {Bob} Orban
* A Short History of Transmission Audio Processing in the United
States
-by- Robert Orban, San Francisco, CAhttp://www.bext.com/histproc.htmhttp://www.261.gr/roberthistory.html
* Optimod "Ask Bob" - Orban/CRL Systems, Inc.http://www.orban.com/support/orban/a...gr/robert.html
* Orban Audio Codec - "Opticodec Line"http://www.orban.com/products/codec/


it's nice to be nice ! RHF
.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The fact is, it's pretty well impossible to know when someone is
posting under "their own name" on the internet. The only thing you can
really conclude is that someone is posting under a name which they
intend for you to believe is their own!


There's an ancient device known as a telephone that can easily be used
to solve that problem.
--
% Randy Yates % "And all that I can do
%% Fuquay-Varina, NC % is say I'm sorry,
%%% 919-577-9882 % that's the way it goes..."
%%%% % Getting To The Point', *Balance of Power*, ELOhttp://www.digitalsignallabs.com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, why don't you make some calls and then report back.

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