Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old October 7th 07, 09:26 PM posted to rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.car,rec.radio.shortwave,ba.broadcast
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,817
Default HD RADIO is no worse than DAB or DRM radio


"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Eduardo claims technical expertise but does not understand the
difference between symbols that are multipliers and an electrical unit
that define the measurement of field strength at the epicenter of most
of his arguments. He seems to have no interest in the terminology other
than to use them as terms to beat people about head with. Once you
challenge him on an assertion he made he always retreats to information
that is only accessible to him.


You have long tried to obfuscate the fact... the amazingly simple fact...
that the farther you go from a station's transmitter, the fewer are the
people who listen to it. In studies of millions of ZIP Code specific
listening incidents, it can be seen that metro area AMs get few incidents
outside of the area where the measured field strenght is 10 mV/m or better.
Outside that area, there is little if any listening.

I am not a student of propagation theory. I am a student and practitioner of
radio programming. Knowing where a station may successfully get listening is
a key to any programming endeavor. Wasting time where the signal is not good
enough for the average listener to enjoy listening is counterproductive. The
listener cares not how the signal gets to the radio but cares in extreme
whether the osund is clear, free from interference and enjoyable to listen
to.

The rest of your technobabble is irrelevant to me and the listener.

He is wrong on semiconductor technology, wrong about the business of
semiconductors, wrong about the traffic and topology of southern
California that he supposedly lives in, wrong about radio reception, and
he has been wrong about the rollout of HD radios even though he has this
insider information we don't share in.


The rollout of HD is pretty much on schedule, from the iBiquity point of
view. The ad campaign by the HD Alliance sucks, but many HD broadcasters are
not members of that group and so have no influence.

The only thing any of us in radio stations needs to know is that less
costly, low power chips are coming in 2008. That has been stated and
confirmed. There are no news articles or bona fied reports to the contrary.
Your opinions, since you are not in boradcasting, are pretty much valueless
in this instance.

The single fact you have posted on "topography" involves one road,
connecting the LA market with the Ventura market, which has a tiny amount of
traffic compared to all the roads in LA and Orange Counies (the LA metro)
and is thus irrelevant. Your remark did prove you did not know that all
listening irrespective of where it takes place goes to the metro where the
listener lives, not where they travel. So you were making conclusions based
on fauty understanding of ratings and the business of radio... the very
business you cricize so vehemently.

The arguments on radio station reception have been the most amusing for
me as he continued to retreat to less and less tenuous position. The
ignorance he has expressed seems to know no bounds.


My evidence is based on where and when and for how long actual people
listen, all over the US. Your comments are based on what you can get on your
radio in your car or home.


  #2   Report Post  
Old October 7th 07, 10:23 PM posted to rec.audio.tech,rec.audio.car,rec.radio.shortwave,ba.broadcast
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,324
Default HD RADIO is no worse than DAB or DRM radio

On Oct 7, 3:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

...

Eduardo claims technical expertise but does not understand the
difference between symbols that are multipliers and an electrical unit
that define the measurement of field strength at the epicenter of most
of his arguments. He seems to have no interest in the terminology other
than to use them as terms to beat people about head with. Once you
challenge him on an assertion he made he always retreats to information
that is only accessible to him.


You have long tried to obfuscate the fact... the amazingly simple fact...
that the farther you go from a station's transmitter, the fewer are the
people who listen to it. In studies of millions of ZIP Code specific
listening incidents, it can be seen that metro area AMs get few incidents
outside of the area where the measured field strenght is 10 mV/m or better.
Outside that area, there is little if any listening.

I am not a student of propagation theory. I am a student and practitioner of
radio programming. Knowing where a station may successfully get listening is
a key to any programming endeavor. Wasting time where the signal is not good
enough for the average listener to enjoy listening is counterproductive. The
listener cares not how the signal gets to the radio but cares in extreme
whether the osund is clear, free from interference and enjoyable to listen
to.

The rest of your technobabble is irrelevant to me and the listener.



He is wrong on semiconductor technology, wrong about the business of
semiconductors, wrong about the traffic and topology of southern
California that he supposedly lives in, wrong about radio reception, and
he has been wrong about the rollout of HD radios even though he has this
insider information we don't share in.


The rollout of HD is pretty much on schedule, from the iBiquity point of
view. The ad campaign by the HD Alliance sucks, but many HD broadcasters are
not members of that group and so have no influence.

The only thing any of us in radio stations needs to know is that less
costly, low power chips are coming in 2008. That has been stated and
confirmed. There are no news articles or bona fied reports to the contrary.
Your opinions, since you are not in boradcasting, are pretty much valueless
in this instance.

The single fact you have posted on "topography" involves one road,
connecting the LA market with the Ventura market, which has a tiny amount of
traffic compared to all the roads in LA and Orange Counies (the LA metro)
and is thus irrelevant. Your remark did prove you did not know that all
listening irrespective of where it takes place goes to the metro where the
listener lives, not where they travel. So you were making conclusions based
on fauty understanding of ratings and the business of radio... the very
business you cricize so vehemently.



The arguments on radio station reception have been the most amusing for
me as he continued to retreat to less and less tenuous position. The
ignorance he has expressed seems to know no bounds.


My evidence is based on where and when and for how long actual people
listen, all over the US. Your comments are based on what you can get on your
radio in your car or home.


You have no evidence. You don't care about evidence. You care about
money, about doing the bidding of your masters, and about saying
anything it takes to make the money roll in. Period.

Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
172.208.21.59, feeling worse each day Twistedhed CB 3 July 3rd 04 02:32 PM
NG is getting worse ! Dave or Debby CB 6 April 20th 04 05:10 PM
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse... Harris Policy 62 March 13th 04 07:08 PM
Looks like my CB NewsGroup is getting WORSE ! Dave or Debby CB 10 February 23rd 04 11:43 PM
Twithed getting worse.... Citizens For A Keyclown-Free Newsgroup CB 14 December 10th 03 12:48 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:53 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017