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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message ... wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 54 http://www.neopax.com/ -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London Remote Viewing! It makes me wonder what percentage of the GDP is dedicated to things that do not exist. Like qubits? -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London |
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Forklift driver? I drove a Duece and a half almost every day in Vietnam,
many times, a forklift too.We had three reject forklifts.One of them was a big tall Baker forklift, it stayed broken down all the time.Another one was a Towmotor, sometimes it would run.The other one was a Clark, it always cranked up and ran,,,,, you had to be careful of that two speed gear shift lever on the right hand side of it though,,,, it had a habit of falling off.One time, on purpose, I ran the right rear wheel of that Clark fork lift over a big roll of banding strip.Because it was there! cuhulin |
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On Sep 30, 11:55 am, (Don Pearce) wrote:
he is an engineer too, as is the bloke who sits at a mixing desk with not the slightest clue as to what he is doing, and moves a fader while trying to look cool. I don't call those people engineers, and any self-respecting broadcaster would not, either. Those are board operators. In TV the same function is called a TD or technical director, or simply a switcher. A TD would be laughed out of the control room if he called himself an engineer. I'm mystified as to why this topic was crossposted to 4 disparate newsgroups with little relation to each other. I don't even know who any of the respondents are, except for Phil Kane. |
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"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message ... wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 54 http://www.neopax.com/ -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK Remote Viewing classes in London Remote Viewing! It makes me wonder what percentage of the GDP is dedicated to things that do not exist. |
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oups.com I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm 60 and I'm a degreed engineer. Professionally, I've spent more time doing IT than anything else. |
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If you stare at a computer all day long, you get dumber by the minute.
www.contemplator.com (Annie Laurie) cuhulin |
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On Sep 30, 1:42 pm, wrote:
I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. I am a 44 year old single gay white male. 5' 7" tall, 313 lbs. I am unable to work due to my weight and other health problems I would rather not go into. Thanks to social security disability payments and other government assistance I am able to enjoy many of my hobbies which include shortwave radio. A.W.S. President GLT Shortwave Club |
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SFTV_troy wrote: Phil Kane wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:35:59 GMT, (Don Pearce) wrote: He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand synchronous detection, which may predate single side band, pre 1952. He can't be a competent engineer if he doesn't understand three-phase power generation and transmission as well. Learning all that was necessary before we could learn electronics in every major engineering school. That was optional at Penn State. I never took it. I didn't say it was. I said ANALOG theory was. Digital of course still has relevance. But every digital device is full of analogue devices. Not only that, but they run so quickly that you need to be highly competent in distributed circuit theory and microwave design techniques. That is true. I was rather surprised on my last project to discover myself modeling analog signals, instead of digital. Oh well. Times change. Perhaps after he has 40-50 years of experience -- Doubtful. Engineering is boring; you sit in a damn cube all day long, staring at a computer. I've been saving every penny, such that I will be able to retire at 40-45. Or semi-retire (only take jobs I like). Engineering is dull. Well you took a wrong turn didn't you but it's never to late to get into marketing where you can lie your ass off. It's very exciting, just ask Eduardo. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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"The Shadow" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 76 years old, retired Hewlett-Packard Technical Writer, AA Degree Electronics, Amateur Extra since 1977, US Navy Korean War - Aviation Electronics Tech AT1 SWL frequently The Old Shadow do Now that's cool. I've probably read stuff you have written. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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On Sep 30, 11:42 am, wrote:
I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. 58 years old, female, retired studio technician (or "operator," if you prefer). A.A. degree, one year of study in electronic theory and an FCC general operator's license (formerly first phone). Still work occasionally as a freelance audio mixer. Moderate a classic movies newsgroup and read voraciously in my spare time. |
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I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year,
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On Oct 1, 12:54 am, Steven wrote:
I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year, and I left yesterday behind me. |
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"Steven" wrote in message ups.com... I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year, Going home to a place you've never been before? |
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"Steven" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 1, 12:54 am, Steven wrote: I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year, and I left yesterday behind me. Might say you were born again? |
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I am 59 and am a "service technician" (a fancy name for grease monkey)
that works on Honda motorcycles. wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. |
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Telamon wrote: SFTV_troy wrote: Phil Kane wrote: Perhaps after he has 40-50 years of experience -- Doubtful. Engineering is boring; you sit in a damn cube all day long, staring at a computer. I've been saving every penny, such that I will be able to retire at 40-45. Or semi-retire (only take jobs I like). Engineering is dull. Well you took a wrong turn didn't you but it's never to late to get into marketing where you can lie your ass off. It's very exciting, just ask Eduardo. I've worked in sales, but I tried to avoid lying. For example when I was in college I worked for Sears. They instructed me to "sell extended warranties" I complied, but I also told the customers that I thought it was un-necessary. Sears didn't like me very much - what with telling the truth. I'd expect an electrical engineer to be more knowledgeable than your posts indicate. If you think one person can possibly know EVERYTHING there is to know about the subject of electronics/electrical devices. For example: - Do you know what VHDL is? - How about a state machine? - Synchronous DDR? - PCI Express? - Flip-flop? - What does GCLK mean in the context of FPGAs? - What are constraints? This is just a small sample of what I know, because this is what I work upon every day..... but I suspect a lot of it you have no clue what it's about. And that's fine. Because I don't expect one person to know everything there is to know about EE. |
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On Oct 1, 3:23 am, Bruce Farley wrote:
I am 59 and am a "service technician" (a fancy name for grease monkey) that works on Honda motorcycles. If you read the thread, you'll see some other very arrogant & very condescending people who think folks like you are inferior. They don't consider what you do to be "real" work. (see below). I am not one of those. I wish I had half the talent you had, when it comes to hands-on work. (I don't even know how to solder a basic connection; I can do it, but it's very sloppy.) On Sep 30, 1:55 pm, (Don Pearce) I'd like to say I'm an engineer, but the word is debased..... The chap who comes to look at my busted washing machine and announce it is beyond repair - he is an engineer too, as is the bloke who sits at a mixing desk with not the slightest clue as to what he is doing, and moves a fader while trying to look cool. I don't feel that inclined to call myself an engineer these days. |
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Bruce Farley wrote: I am 59 and am a "service technician" (a fancy name for grease monkey) that works on Honda motorcycles. If you read the thread, you'll see some other very arrogant & very condescending people who think folks like you are inferior. They don't consider what you do to be "real" work. (see below). I am not one of those. I wish I had half the talent you had, when it comes to hands-on work. (I don't even know how to solder a basic connection; I can do it, but it's very sloppy.) Note that plumbers, motorcycle mechanics, cabinetmakers, etc. are the kinds of jobs that cannot be "outsourced" to foreign shores. Just one of the advantages of doing "real" (physical) work vs. virtual (mental) work. :-) There's likely an instructional video on Youtube on how to solder. OTOH, with the prevalence of SMD, horse-shoeing may be a more practical skill. :-) |
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On Oct 1, 1:46 am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Steven" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 1, 12:54 am, Steven wrote: I was born in the summer of my twenty-seventh year, and I left yesterday behind me. Might say you were born again? Dear god, let's not run into any Muppets, K? |
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On Oct 1, 9:18 am, (G) wrote:
In article , (G) wrote: In article .com, wrote: I'm 35. Engineer. And you? I'm curious about the demographic that occupies these groups. I'm 51 and have lived in the Bay Area all my life. I studied Broadcasting at CSM back in the 70's, when they still had a hands on program with Dan Odum. KCSM was on channel 14 and still in Black and White. KCSM-TV had the ability to go color, at least on a part time basis, but they purposely stayed in Black and White to give the illusion of broadcast poverty, in order to help secure a grant to increase power and to change frequencies to channel 60. The plan worked remarkably well. They got everything they wanted, but the students ended up getting shafted. Luckly that happened after I graduated! |
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That auld song thingy,,,,,,,,
Life is Like a Mountain Railroad,,,,,,, cuhulin |
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Het Greg,,, I know some penpal gals around the World that would knock
the socks off of you.They even get me bamboozled sometimes,,,,,, for instance,,, that girl in Stockton,Austrailia,,,,,,,, cuhulin |
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"SFTV_troy" wrote in message oups.com... John Slade wrote: And I agree, that's why I have a nonsense answer. Age has nothing to do with it. I've met young folk who act really mature and older people who act like little kids. I'm seeing a lot of those "older people acting like kids" right here on this group (insulting one another). You know what? I made that same observation years ago... John |
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On Oct 1, 8:47 am, (G) wrote:
On these newsgroups, I get the impression the young people do not use, or do not like to use USENET. Perhaps they are somewhere else. It was not like this10 to 15 years ago. And, there is a lot of frustrated old people around here. 10 to 15 years ago there weren't Web-based forums. In fact, 15 years ago there wasn't a Web as we know it. Google Groups may have been the salvation of Usenet. Actually, someone operating a for-profit news server could build some market share by touting the uncensored nature of Usenet. They could sell access and news clients for those people who don't have them. |
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There are free NNTP servers as well as fee based NNTP servers
this is yet one more more no nothing post for a no nothing jerk what the F'K does this have to do with *.audio.* ??? get lost lamer arthur On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:17:01 -0700, David Kaye wrote: Actually, someone operating a for-profit news server could build some market share by touting the uncensored nature of Usenet. They could sell access and news clients for those people who don't have them. |
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On Oct 1, 4:03 pm, Phil Kane wrote:
I never did answer the title question - I'm 71 and the VP - General Counsel and Engineering Manager of a major communications consulting engineering firm in California. And you also managed to scarf up just about every top-notch disillusioned engineer in the Bay Area to help! |
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(G) wrote: On these newsgroups, I get the impression the young people do not use, or do not like to use USENET. Perhaps they are somewhere else. It was not like this10 to 15 years ago. And, there is a lot of frustrated old people around here. 10 to 15 years ago there weren't Web-based forums. In fact, 15 years ago there wasn't a Web as we know it. Google Groups may have been the salvation of Usenet. OTOH, the view from Usenet is that Google Groups may be the death of Usenet. In much the same way as AOL was a great blow to the internet. i.e. suddenly foisting thousands of illiterate users onto the service and significantly raising the level of chaos. Actually, someone operating a for-profit news server could build some market share by touting the uncensored nature of Usenet. They could sell access and news clients for those people who don't have them. Yes, people have been doing this for years and they have a large and growing customer base. Many smaller ISPs outsource NNTP service to large commercial providers such as Supernews, et.al. Google Groups user interface is so desperately bad, I don't see how anybody can tolerate it. The real thing, even with a lowest- common-denominator newsreader like Outlook Express is so much faster, more direct, more convenient, more efficient, it isn't even a close comparison. |
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:07:09 -0700, David Kaye
wrote: On Oct 1, 4:03 pm, Phil Kane wrote: I never did answer the title question - I'm 71 and the VP - General Counsel and Engineering Manager of a major communications consulting engineering firm in California. And you also managed to scarf up just about every top-notch disillusioned engineer in the Bay Area to help! Are you looking for a job, David? ggg PS - we don't do Broadcast work. We send that to one of our joint venture partners in the Pacific Northwest. They send their land mobile and microwave work to us. -- Phil Kane Beaverton, OR |
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"David Kaye" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 1, 8:47 am, (G) wrote: On these newsgroups, I get the impression the young people do not use, or do not like to use USENET. Perhaps they are somewhere else. It was not like this10 to 15 years ago. And, there is a lot of frustrated old people around here. 10 to 15 years ago there weren't Web-based forums. In fact, 15 years ago there wasn't a Web as we know it. Google Groups may have been the salvation of Usenet. Sure there were. I was using web based forums at least as far back as 1983, with my Commodore 64 and a 300 baud acoustic modem (even the crude graphics of the era took forever to load. The bad old days of CompuSlave et al when net time was charged by the minute (about two dollars IIRC). Even then, the forums were very popular, taking over the job that was mostly done by BBS's. |
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On Oct 1, 4:50 pm, Phil Kane wrote:
Are you looking for a job, David? Well, it would feel like going home. I've always admired Tim Pozar's work. David Doon busted the pirate station I was involved with, and you've been a presence for quite a number of years here. PS - we don't do Broadcast work. We send that to one of our joint venture partners in the Pacific Northwest. They send their land mobile and microwave work to us. Yeah, I notice that you do a lot of local government work. Well heck, there's a lot to be said for local govt. For one, compared with broadcasters their checks are less likely to bounce.... |
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Brenda Ann wrote: "David Kaye" wrote in message 10 to 15 years ago there weren't Web-based forums..... Sure there were. I was using web based forums at least as far back as 1983, with my Commodore 64 and a 300 baud acoustic modem Sorry hun, but that's NOT the world wide web (which is based-upon multiple servers & using Hypertext Markup Language & active point-n- click links). What we used on the old commodore 64 was a SINGLE server called a BBS, and it didn't use hypertext, or a mouse.. It was just plain-jane text. (Yes even on the C64, it was text.... but it was drawn to look like pictures.) That's what Usenet is - all text It's like visiting an old BBS. The world wide web was not invented until circa 1993, and did not "boom" until around 1995 (with Windows and Mac-based Mosaic & Netscape). And thus was born web-based forums which slowly but surely drew people away from the "boring" Usenet. (even the crude graphics of the era took forever to load) Yeah. There's a huge difference between 56k and 0.3k. It used to take me an hour to download a 170 kilobyte floppy. Now I do it in about 5 seconds. |
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On Oct 1, 11:18 am, (G) wrote:
On these newsgroups, I get the impression the young people do not use, or do not like to use USENET. Perhaps they are somewhere else. It was not like this10 to 15 years ago. And, there is a lot of frustrated old people around here. I suspect if you took this poll in a "hip" group like rec.arts.tv or alt.tv.smallville, you'd find a lot of young people. It would still skew older, but there'd also be lots of teens and 20-somethings in the mix. |
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Phil Kane wrote: On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 03:24:02 -0700, wrote: - Do you know what VHDL is? - How about a state machine? - Synchronous DDR? - PCI Express? - Flip-flop? - What does GCLK mean in the context of FPGAs? - What are constraints? That's not electrical engineering, that's computer science. And thus you make yourself sound like an idiot. Hardware design is *not* computer science (aka programming). ------ Besides my title is "Electrical Engineer". Always has been, no matter where I worked. This is just a small sample of what I know, because this is what I work upon every day..... but I suspect a lot of it you have no clue what it's about. And that's fine. Because I don't expect one person to know everything there is to know about EE. Not to denigrate Penn State, but graduates of the major EE (as differentiated from CS) schools are expected to be fluent in most if not all areas of ELECTRICAL engineering. ... That sounds like a denigration of Penn State. They did teach me all the basics, but not the advanced stuff (like synchronous AM reception - whatever that is). To expect me to know that is unrealistic. And not fair to the profs at Penn State. Every engineer has his or her own specialty. I'm registered as a PE (Electrical) in four states... I am also licensed to practice law in all California and Federal courts Wow. I'm impressed. I passed the E.I.T. exam back in 1998, but never bothered to register P.E. because I don't see any value in it. I'm still getting paid $55 an hour, and having a P.E. after my name is not going to drive that Rate any higher. Same with a Masters Degree. If I thought there was value in having those, then I would go ahead and acquire them, but so far they've been not necessary. So how do you like law? I was thinking about going back to earn a law degree (since I'm bored with engineering). |
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