"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

"David Kaye" wrote in message
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On Oct 1, 8:47 am, (G) wrote:

On these newsgroups, I get the impression the young
people do not use, or do not like to use USENET.
Perhaps they are somewhere else. It was not like this10 to 15 years ago.
And, there is a
lot of frustrated old people around here.

10 to 15 years ago there weren't Web-based forums. In
fact, 15 years ago there wasn't a Web as we know it. Google Groups may
have been the salvation of Usenet.

Sure there were. I was using web based forums at least
as far back as 1983, with my Commodore 64 and a 300 baud
acoustic modem (even the crude graphics of the era took
forever to load.

Usenet?

There were other networks of BBSs in those days.

There was no pracical, widely usable web in the 1980s.

This is typical of histories of the web:

http://www.w3.org/History.html

From it, the web seems to date back to the early 1990s, maybe 1992 or 1993.

The bad old days of CompuSlave et al
when net time was charged by the minute (about two
dollars IIRC).

Been there, done that.

Even then, the forums were very popular,
taking over the job that was mostly done by BBS's.

The trouble with local BBSs was the lack of traffic.

There were national and regional BBSs like ExecPC that addressed that
problem.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

Even then, the forums were very popular,
taking over the job that was mostly done by BBS's.

The trouble with local BBSs was the lack of traffic.
There were national and regional BBSs like ExecPC
that addressed that problem.


Also national nets like Usenet and Fidonet. Usenet is still alive-and-
well thanks to News servers being integrated into the WWW browsers,
but Fidonet is essentially dead since BBSes don't really exist
anymore. (There's still a few, but none local to my area, and I'm not
going to call long-distance.)

Those networks were cool. You would go visit, for example
rec.arts.startrek, read & reply to messages, and then log off. During
the night the messages would travel across the phonelines. And the
next morning you would have a fresh batch of messages.

Things moved a lot slower back then. Typically if you asked a
question today (Oct 2), you had to wait until Oct 3 to receive the
replies to it.

BTW:



Here's the oldest message I could find. I got a modem in late 1987,
and was posting to Usenet throughout 1988, 89, and so on, but
apparently those messages never got archived. Oh well. This message
was posted just prior to my high school graduation..... sooooo long
ago. ;-)

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...3f568ceec580b/

From:
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Trek symbols
Date: 27 May 91 15:07:23 GMT
Organization: Rabbit Hutch BBS, East Earl, Pa., (717)354-5027
Lines: 16


The change from the "one ship one symbol" to everyone wearing the
"Enterprise Arrowhead" is supposed to serve two functions. The first, (not
totally cannon) is that it is to celebrate that the Enterprise was the only
ship to make it back to earth after its five year mission, in completely
good shape, where as other ships barely made it back, or not at all.

Exactly what do you mean by "one ship one symbol"? Did each ship
have
its on triangle? I thought the Arrowhead was the symbol of the
Federation
and was universal among all Starfleet starships? Why was Enterprise
crew
the only to wear the arrowhead?
--
....rutgers!devon!rhutch!troy (Troy Heagy)
Rabbit Hutch BBS -- +1 717 354 5027

SFTV_troy writes:
[...] Usenet is still alive-and- well thanks to News servers being
integrated into the WWW browsers,

News servers are not integrated into WWW browsers, but news clients
are.
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Randy Yates wrote:
SFTV_troy writes:

[...] Usenet is still alive-and- well thanks to News
servers being integrated into the WWW browsers,

News servers are not integrated into WWW browsers,
but news clients are.



Ooops. Thanks for the correction; that was pretty stupid of
me. ;-) (A news client could also be called news reader, or news-
reading software.)