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HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
On Oct 2, 6:05 pm, SFTV_troy wrote:
On Oct 2, 3:16 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message There is data for every hour of the day, but licensed only for use by Arbitron subscribers. It takes a couple of clicks to get a Midnight to 6 AM ranker or table. If you have that information, please share. How many AM listeners are there during the 8 to midnight hours? Where? To what station? In what market? AQH listeners, cume listeners, MSA listeners, DMA listeners? I don't really care. Just pick some random market, 8 pm to midnight, and AQH Share. I just want a rough estimate of how many spend their evenings listening to AM. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - All evening? Literally from 6:00pm to midnight, without interruption? My guess is that very few people do this. |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 2, 3:16 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message There is data for every hour of the day, but licensed only for use by Arbitron subscribers. It takes a couple of clicks to get a Midnight to 6 AM ranker or table. If you have that information, please share. How many AM listeners are there during the 8 to midnight hours? Where? To what station? In what market? AQH listeners, cume listeners, MSA listeners, DMA listeners? I don't really care. Just pick some random market, 8 pm to midnight, and AQH Share. I just want a rough estimate of how many spend their evenings listening to AM. The standard daypart is 7 to Midnight. Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between 7 PM and midnight, the share of radio listeners using AM at night is 7.9% of all radio users. As a percentage of all persons, whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the share is 4.3% of radio listening and 0.4% of all persons in that age group, whether listening or not. |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
How many people under 50-80 years old listen to AM, probably close to zero.
Most likely people under 30 don't even know the AM band exists.. |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
David Eduardo wrote: "SFTV_troy" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 2, 3:16 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message There is data for every hour of the day, but licensed only for use by Arbitron subscribers. It takes a couple of clicks to get a Midnight to 6 AM ranker or table. If you have that information, please share. How many AM listeners are there during the 8 to midnight hours? Where? To what station? In what market? AQH listeners, cume listeners, MSA listeners, DMA listeners? I don't really care. Just pick some random market, 8 pm to midnight, and AQH Share. I just want a rough estimate of how many spend their evenings listening to AM. The standard daypart is 7 to Midnight. Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between 7 PM and midnight, the share of radio listeners using AM at night is 7.9% of all radio users. As a percentage of all persons, whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the share is 4.3% of radio listening and 0.4% of all persons in that age group, whether listening or not. Don't you ever tire of the BS, Edweenie? |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
Houston (Houston,Texas) is the fourth largest City in
America.Houston,Mississippi, I have never been there before.I have been to Houston,Texas before.I had to get the hell off of that fast traffic expressway, Fast!, I dodged off into an old shopping mall area. They drive like there is no tomorrow in Houston,Texas.They will run over you if you don't look out! cuhulin |
d'Eduardo - The Fallacy Of All Your Corporate Media Numbers
On Oct 2, 4:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 2, 3:16 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message There is data for every hour of the day, but licensed only for use by Arbitron subscribers. It takes a couple of clicks to get a Midnight to 6 AM ranker or table. If you have that information, please share. How many AM listeners are there during the 8 to midnight hours? Where? To what station? In what market? AQH listeners, cume listeners, MSA listeners, DMA listeners? I don't really care. Just pick some random market, 8 pm to midnight, and AQH Share. I just want a rough estimate of how many spend their evenings listening to AM. - - The standard daypart is 7 to Midnight. - - Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between - 7 PM and midnight, the share of radio listeners using AM at - night is 7.9% of all radio users. As a percentage of all persons, - whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the - share is 4.3% of radio listening and 0.4% of all persons in that - age group, whether listening or not. d'Eduardo, {Houstan Ain't Texas - It Is That Simple} The Fallacy of all your Corporate Media Numbers is that you Report about Numbers within the Metro-Area : While IMHO most of the Late Night Radio Listeners Live Outside the Metro-Area well beyond the 10 mv/m Contour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy Face It - You Have No Number That Is Valid and Meaningful For This Newsgroup Of Avid Radio Listeners. A Nation-Wide {Federally Funded} Study of All Rural Radio Listeners is Required to Assess Their Unque {Distance} Radio Listening Habits And Their Radio Information and Entertainment Service Needs. - Conducted Jointly by the FCC and Department of of Commerce. { It Ought To Be A Law } I Ask Myself : What IBOC ? All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go : Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour. * Twain Harte, CA -USA- |
d'Eduardo - The Fallacy Of All Your Corporate Media Numbers
"RHF" wrote in message oups.com... - - Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between - 7 PM and midnight, the share of radio listeners using AM at - night is 7.9% of all radio users. As a percentage of all persons, - whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the - share is 4.3% of radio listening and 0.4% of all persons in that - age group, whether listening or not. d'Eduardo, {Houstan Ain't Texas - It Is That Simple} The Fallacy of all your Corporate Media Numbers is that you Report about Numbers within the Metro-Area : While IMHO most of the Late Night Radio Listeners Live Outside the Metro-Area well beyond the 10 mv/m Contour. The Houston metro consists of fully 8 counties, and the figures don't vary for the more outlying counties... they acutally go down because Houston does not have any really good signal AMs at night. I looked at the Casper WY market... AM listening 17%... only 12 stations in the market, and not much more AM listening than LA, with 17% also. The highly rural McAllen Brownsville market has 8.2% AM listening. Traverse City / NW Michigan has 11%. Beckley, WV 9.1%. Palm Springs, CA, 7.8%. Victor Valley, CA 6.2%. Get the picture? A Nation-Wide {Federally Funded} Study of All Rural Radio Listeners is Required to Assess Their Unque {Distance} Radio Listening Habits And Their Radio Information and Entertainment Service Needs. - Conducted Jointly by the FCC and Department of of Commerce. { It Ought To Be A Law } Arbitron does every county of the US once a year, and AM listening in non-regularly-rated counties is lower than in metros. |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
On Oct 2, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 2, 3:16 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message There is data for every hour of the day, but licensed only for use by Arbitron subscribers. It takes a couple of clicks to get a Midnight to 6 AM ranker or table. If you have that information, please share. How many AM listeners are there during the 8 to midnight hours? Where? To what station? In what market? AQH listeners, cume listeners, MSA listeners, DMA listeners? I don't really care. Just pick some random market, 8 pm to midnight, and AQH Share. I just want a rough estimate of how many spend their evenings listening to AM. The standard daypart is 7 to Midnight. Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between 7 PM and midnight, the share of radio listeners using AM at night is 7.9% of all radio users. As a percentage of all persons, whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the share is 4.3% of radio listening and 0.4% of all persons in that age group, whether listening or not.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Is this what you learned in graduate school? Where did you go...was it Stanford? Berkeley? |
d'Eduardo - The Fallacy Of All Your Corporate Media Numbers
On Oct 2, 8:33 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message oups.com... - - Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between - 7 PM and midnight, the share of radio listeners using AM at - night is 7.9% of all radio users. As a percentage of all persons, - whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the - share is 4.3% of radio listening and 0.4% of all persons in that - age group, whether listening or not. d'Eduardo, {Houstan Ain't Texas - It Is That Simple} The Fallacy of all your Corporate Media Numbers is that you Report about Numbers within the Metro-Area : While IMHO most of the Late Night Radio Listeners Live Outside the Metro-Area well beyond the 10 mv/m Contour. The Houston metro consists of fully 8 counties, and the figures don't vary for the more outlying counties... they acutally go down because Houston does not have any really good signal AMs at night. I looked at the Casper WY market... AM listening 17%... only 12 stations in the market, and not much more AM listening than LA, with 17% also. The highly rural McAllen Brownsville market has 8.2% AM listening. Traverse City / NW Michigan has 11%. Beckley, WV 9.1%. Palm Springs, CA, 7.8%. Victor Valley, CA 6.2%. Get the picture? A Nation-Wide {Federally Funded} Study of All Rural Radio Listeners is Required to Assess Their Unque {Distance} Radio Listening Habits And Their Radio Information and Entertainment Service Needs. - Conducted Jointly by the FCC and Department of of Commerce. { It Ought To Be A Law } Arbitron does every county of the US once a year, and AM listening in non-regularly-rated counties is lower than in metros. Is Arbitron a degree-granting institution? What degree did you earn from them? |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
On Oct 2, 1:54?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 1, 11:20 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... Brenda Ann wrote: [National AM] is where you sell national products. People buy Coke, Pepsi, STP, Quaker State (and Quaker Oats) everywhere. Most nighttime radio has long been such spots (as has network radio). Advertisers are not interested in anybody older than 35. Actually, 35-to-54 is a key if not total part of most campaigns. Nearly all ad agency business is bought against 18-54 or some subset, - like Assimilated Hispanic Women between 25 and 44. d'Eduardo - "Assimilated Hispanic Women" Have the BORG been 'assimilating' Hispanic Women No, this one is a Klingon plot. But still, resistance is futile. (Interestingly, my spell checker suggested "Clinton" for "Klingon.")- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion" "Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM radio..." http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 06:56:23 -0700, "David Eduardo"
wrote: Shift workers? What are shift workers? Shift workers are those working in factories or businesses where there are multiple shifts. One shift goes off as another comes on. In industrial processes, shifts in LA at least tend to be 6-2, 2-10 and 10 to 6. No lunch? |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
David wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 06:56:23 -0700, "David Eduardo" wrote: Shift workers? What are shift workers? Shift workers are those working in factories or businesses where there are multiple shifts. One shift goes off as another comes on. In industrial processes, shifts in LA at least tend to be 6-2, 2-10 and 10 to 6. No lunch? I used to work the 10-6. You only get 7.5 hours on those days. |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
David Eduardo wrote: The standard daypart is 7 to Midnight. Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between 7 PM and midnight...as a percentage of all persons, whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the share is 0.4% of all persons in that age group, whether listening or not. Thank you. That's what I wanted. For comparison, television pulls over 70% of all persons during 7 to midnight. Any idea how many of that 0.6% of primetime AM listeners are listening via skywave (non-local)? |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
wrote: Houston,Texas before.I had to get the hell off of that fast traffic expressway, Fast!, I dodged off into an old shopping mall area. They drive like there is no tomorrow in Houston,Texas.They will run over you if you don't look out! cuhulin Don't drive like a snail. ;-) If the speed say 70 then that's what you need to be doing (or even higher). It's an interstate highway, not a local country road. It's meant for high-speed travel. Nothing annoys me more than when I'm driving down I-95 and some yoyo is doing 50. C'mon. Drive faster. |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:18:49 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Oct 1, 1:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: If a station wants to see an adjacent market, or even a distant one, they would have to subscribe to the other market reports... which given the cost vs. no benefits, they seldom do. And so AM clearchannels really DON'T care about distant markets. They don't even bother to look (too expensive). And no returns. A good example: 40% or more of the Riverside San Bernardino audience is listening at any given time to LA stations. 3 of the top 5 stations there are usually LA stations. But LA stations do not sell advertising there, because the market is about 30th in the US, and spots go for $100 or less. In LA, the top radio market for revenue, spots can be sold for way over $1000 each. Why sell a $100 buck ad when you can sell for over a grand each? That doesn't mean they are irrelevant. |
d'Eduardo - The Fallacy Of All Your Corporate Media Numbers
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:04:19 -0700, RHF
wrote: On Oct 2, 4:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "SFTV_troy" wrote in message ups.com... On Oct 2, 3:16 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... David Eduardo wrote: wrote in message There is data for every hour of the day, but licensed only for use by Arbitron subscribers. It takes a couple of clicks to get a Midnight to 6 AM ranker or table. If you have that information, please share. How many AM listeners are there during the 8 to midnight hours? Where? To what station? In what market? AQH listeners, cume listeners, MSA listeners, DMA listeners? I don't really care. Just pick some random market, 8 pm to midnight, and AQH Share. I just want a rough estimate of how many spend their evenings listening to AM. - - The standard daypart is 7 to Midnight. - - Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between - 7 PM and midnight, the share of radio listeners using AM at - night is 7.9% of all radio users. As a percentage of all persons, - whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the - share is 4.3% of radio listening and 0.4% of all persons in that - age group, whether listening or not. d'Eduardo, {Houstan Ain't Texas - It Is That Simple} The Fallacy of all your Corporate Media Numbers is that you Report about Numbers within the Metro-Area : While IMHO most of the Late Night Radio Listeners Live Outside the Metro-Area well beyond the 10 mv/m Contour. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy Face It - You Have No Number That Is Valid and Meaningful For This Newsgroup Of Avid Radio Listeners. A Nation-Wide {Federally Funded} Study of All Rural Radio Listeners is Required to Assess Their Unque {Distance} Radio Listening Habits And Their Radio Information and Entertainment Service Needs. - Conducted Jointly by the FCC and Department of of Commerce. { It Ought To Be A Law } I Ask Myself : What IBOC ? All I See Is The Blinking Blue Light ! ~ RHF In That Distant Land* Where IBOC Fears To Go : Life Exists and Radio Listeners Live Beyond the 10mv/m Contour. * Twain Harte, CA -USA- . Houston has always hated AM radio. As I recall it was the first city where FM had more listeners than AM. |
Once Again d'Eduardo - All of 'your' Numbers a Irrelevant to this Group of Avid Long Distant {DX} AM/MW Radio Listeners
On Oct 2, 1:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 1, 1:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: If a station wants to see an adjacent market, or even a distant one, they would have to subscribe to the other market reports... which given the cost vs. no benefits, they seldom do. And so AM clearchannels really DON'T care about distant markets. They don't even bother to look (too expensive). And no returns. A good example: 40% or more of the Riverside San Bernardino audience is listening at any given time to LA stations. 3 of the top 5 stations there are usually LA stations. But LA stations do not sell advertising there, because the market is about 30th in the US, and spots go for $100 or less. In LA, the top radio market for revenue, spots can be sold for way over $1000 each. Why sell a $100 buck ad when you can sell for over a grand each? Once Again d'Eduardo - All of 'your' Numbers a Irrelevant to this Group of Avid Long Distant {DX} AM/MW Radio Listeners [.] RULES ARE RULES : The Rec.Radio.Shortwave "Arbitrary" DX Numbers Scale is : One DXer at 100 Miles is Worth One Market Share ~ 1.0% Two DXers at 200 Miles is Worth Four Market Shares ~ 4.0% Three DXers at 300 Miles is Worth Nine Market Shares ~ 9.0% Four DXers at 400 Miles is Worth Sixteen Market Shares ~ 16.0% Five DXers at 500 Miles is Worth 25 Market Shares ~ 25.0% Ten DXers at 1000 Miles is Worth 100 Market Shares ~ 100.0% those are the numbers - those are the facts - eod ~ RHF |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
On Oct 3, 8:09 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message ups.com... David Eduardo wrote: The standard daypart is 7 to Midnight. Using the 6th largest city, Houston, as an example, between 7 PM and midnight...as a percentage of all persons, whether using radio or not, it is 0.6%. In 18-34 year olds, the share is 0.4% of all persons in that age group, whether listening or not. Thank you. That's what I wanted. For comparison, television pulls over 70% of all persons during 7 to midnight. Any idea how many of that 0.6% of primetime AM listeners are listening via skywave (non-local)? - - It's a number below the rounding error of Arbitron. - In other words, 0.04% of all listening - or 0.003 of all persons. Once Again d'Eduardo - All of 'your' Numbers a Irrelevant to this Group of Avid Long Distant {DX} AM/MW Radio Listeners [.] RULES ARE RULES : The Rec.Radio.Shortwave "Arbitrary" DX Numbers Scale is : One DXer at 100 Miles is Worth One Market Share ~ 1.0% Two DXers at 200 Miles is Worth Four Market Shares ~ 4.0% Three DXers at 300 Miles is Worth Nine Market Shares ~ 9.0% Four DXers at 400 Miles is Worth Sixteen Market Shares ~ 16.0% Five DXers at 500 Miles is Worth 25 Market Shares ~ 25.0% Ten DXers at 1000 Miles is Worth 100 Market Shares ~ 100.0% those are the numbers - those are the facts - eod ~ RHF |
HOW MANY people listen to Distant (100 mile) AM at night?
On Oct 4, 7:35 am, wrote:
RHF wrote: Once Again d'Eduardo - All of 'your' Numbers a Irrelevant to this Group of Avid Long Distant {DX} AM/MW Radio Listeners [.] RULES ARE RULES : The Rec.Radio.Shortwave "Arbitrary" DX Numbers Scale is : One DXer at 100 Miles is Worth One Market Share ~ 1.0% One DXer at 200 Miles is Worth Four Market Shares ~ 2.0% One DXer at 300 Miles is Worth Nine Market Shares ~ 3.0% One DXer at 400 Miles is Worth Sixteen Market Shares ~ 4.0% One DXer at 500 Miles is Worth 25 Market Shares ~ 5.0% One DXers at 1000 Miles is Worth 100 Market Shares ~ 10.0% those are the numbers - those are the facts - eod ~ RHF - SFTV -aka- "Hybrid Digital" Man, You appear to to suffer from Digital Thinking in an Analog Reality {World}. - Fixed to be more consistent (changing only variable at a time). Be Advised - You Are Not Authorized To Change "My Numbers" Neo-Quantum Ideas {Concepts} Require Multi-Dimensional Changes {Variables} - It still makes no logical sense though. Clearly My Logic and My Sense are not your logic and your sense : Hence it is all 'simply' Newsgroup NONSENSE ! -jftfoi- One DXer is still the same value, regardless of how far away he is. Ah Haw - Clearly You Do Not Understand Concept of DX and the Craft of DXing : Since "DX" Means 'Distance' ! -nism- (Which is not that much, since he's not inside the local market.) To The DXer 'being' Outside The Local Market "Is" Everything ! - - - If They Were Inside The 10mv/m Contour : They Would Not Be a DXer. i have gone the distance and heard the other side of . . . beyond the beyond ~ RHF |
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