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On Oct 2, 9:55 am, "Frank Dresser"
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roups.com...


Digital Radio Mondiale is also IBOC. (Designed to operate in analog/
digital mode for shortwave and AM, and soon FM.)


Can you demodulate DRM without a digital decoder?


No, but it does have one advantage over HD Radio. DRM can be received
with a standard computer (you just need the tuner to receive the
signals).


I've only heard the incessant hiss of full digital DRM. Is anybody
broadcasting the combined DRM analog digital mix?

Frank Dresser


FD,

Maybe in the Longwave and Medium Wave Bands because
of Limited and Permenate Frequency Assignments.
http://www.drm.org/livebroadcast/livebroadcast.php

But I am not aware of any Shortwave (HF) DRM+Analog
"Simulcasts".

~ RHF
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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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On Oct 2, 9:55 am, "Frank Dresser"
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oups.com...

Digital Radio Mondiale is also IBOC. (Designed to operate in analog/
digital mode for shortwave and AM, and soon FM.)

Can you demodulate DRM without a digital decoder?


No, but it does have one advantage over HD Radio. DRM can be received
with a standard computer (you just need the tuner to receive the
signals).


I've only heard the incessant hiss of full digital DRM. Is anybody
broadcasting the combined DRM analog digital mix?

Frank Dresser


Supposedly XEEP in Mexico City is testing by having analog on its licensed
1060 and DRM on 1070, per the local broadcaster association. I have heard no
reports on how this is going, or for how long it is scheduled to go on.


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On Oct 4, 5:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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? I am getting an IBOC Digital Signal Indicator -aka-
the "Blinking Blue Light" from XEKTT on 1700 kHz ?
- - - Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio


XEKTT 1700 kHz - Tijuana, BCN Mexico
Excellent Audio and ? BBL ? ~750 Miles
http://www.am-dx.com/lists/082stat.htm
http://www.cash1700.com/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEPE-AM
Note - Listed as 10,000 Watts it sounds like a whole lot more
to me {maybe 50 KW ?}


Border area stations are authorized for HD, but did not believe 1700 had
done it. The power is 10 kw day and 1 kw night. It's one of the Tijuana
stations, like 1090 and 690, that truly keep to treaty notified power, per
measurements done by an engineer in the market. The calls are XEPE now, and
the website ishttp://www.cash1700.com/

If you get many Mexican stations, you may like to keep this link handy...
Fred Cantú's very nice Mexico Radio & Television sitehttp://www.mexicoradiotv.com/


Did you earn a degree from him too?

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David Eduardo wrote:

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oups.com...
On Oct 4, 1:12 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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? I am getting an IBOC Digital Signal Indicator -aka-
the "Blinking Blue Light" from XEKTT on 1700 kHz ?
- - - Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio

XEKTT 1700 kHz - Tijuana, BCN Mexico
Excellent Audio and ? BBL ? ~750 Miles
http://www.am-dx.com/lists/082stat.htm
http://www.cash1700.com/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEPE-AM
Note - Listed as 10,000 Watts it sounds like a whole lot more
to me {maybe 50 KW ?}


Border area stations are authorized for HD, but did not believe 1700 had
done it. The power is 10 kw day and 1 kw night. It's one of the Tijuana
stations, like 1090 and 690, that truly keep to treaty notified power, per
measurements done by an engineer in the market. The calls are XEPE now, and
the website is http://www.cash1700.com/

If you get many Mexican stations, you may like to keep this link handy...
Fred Cantú's very nice Mexico Radio & Television site
http://www.mexicoradiotv.com/


So, what about that amateur license you claimed to have?


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David Eduardo wrote:

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 2, 9:55 am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

oups.com...

Digital Radio Mondiale is also IBOC. (Designed to operate in analog/
digital mode for shortwave and AM, and soon FM.)

Can you demodulate DRM without a digital decoder?

No, but it does have one advantage over HD Radio. DRM can be received
with a standard computer (you just need the tuner to receive the
signals).


I've only heard the incessant hiss of full digital DRM. Is anybody
broadcasting the combined DRM analog digital mix?

Frank Dresser


Supposedly XEEP in Mexico City is testing by having analog on its licensed
1060 and DRM on 1070, per the local broadcaster association. I have heard no
reports on how this is going, or for how long it is scheduled to go on.


You're a pathological liar. No supposedly about it!




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On Oct 4, 2:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Oct 4, 1:12 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message


? I am getting an IBOC Digital Signal Indicator -aka-
the "Blinking Blue Light" from XEKTT on 1700 kHz ?
- - - Radi-Osophy HD-100 Radio


XEKTT 1700 kHz - Tijuana, BCN Mexico
Excellent Audio and ? BBL ? ~750 Miles
http://www.am-dx.com/lists/082stat.htm
http://www.cash1700.com/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XEPE-AM
Note - Listed as 10,000 Watts it sounds like a whole lot more
to me {maybe 50 KW ?}


Border area stations are authorized for HD, but did not believe 1700 had
done it. The power is 10 kw day and 1 kw night. It's one of the Tijuana
stations, like 1090 and 690, that truly keep to treaty notified power, per
measurements done by an engineer in the market. The calls are XEPE now, and
the website ishttp://www.cash1700.com/

-
- If you get many Mexican stations, you may like to keep this link
handy...
- Fred Cantú's very nice Mexico Radio & Television site
- http://www.mexicoradiotv.com/

d'Eduardo - Thank You for the Link. ~ RHF
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In article om,
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Soundhaspriority wrote:
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Digital Radio Mondiale is also IBOC. (Designed to operate in analog/
digital mode for shortwave and AM, and soon FM.)

Do you hate DR Mondiale too?

I think the reaction you're getting is really due to

1. Reaction to the marketing hype, which in the case of Ibquity and DRM, is
the bold faced lie of CD quality.
2. The way you promote the official position, as if you had a financial
stake. Regardless of whether you're just a bored engeineer, or a marketing
type lying his ass off, this is the way you come off.



I see. Well I wrote roughly half of the criticisms section (and all
of the HDR vs. EU DRM/DAB section) located he
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hd_radio#Comparison_to_EU.27s_Digital_Radio
----- I have also posted quite a number of negative comments on this
forum such as, "HD Radio AM should be banned from nighttime
broadcasting, until circa 2015, at which time analog can be switched-
off and HD can take over".


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more nanoseconds. You might make more sense.

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