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Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?


David,

Strangely enough I was listening to them this very early
morning ~3 AM and their Analog "AM" Sounded OK.

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On Oct 7, 7:41 pm, RHF wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:10 pm, David wrote:

Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?


David,

Strangely enough I was listening to them this very early
morning ~3 AM and their Analog "AM" Sounded OK.

~ RHF
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This is exciting. AM is starting to get interesting again!

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Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?


Phasors can not be obsolete. They can be badly designed, hi-Q and
narrowband, but there is no real change in components (coils and caps and
vacuum caps) or design since the first directionals on AM were used at WSUN
and WOR in the 20's.


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"David" wrote in message
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Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?


Phasors can not be obsolete. They can be badly designed, hi-Q and
narrowband, but there is no real change in components (coils and caps and
vacuum caps) or design since the first directionals on AM were used at WSUN
and WOR in the 20's.


I suggest you put the phasors on safe before you have an accident.

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On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?


Phasors can not be obsolete. They can be badly designed, hi-Q and
narrowband, but there is no real change in components (coils and caps and
vacuum caps) or design since the first directionals on AM were used at WSUN
and WOR in the 20's.


The big thing for an Analog AM/MW Radio Station that
is going to begin IBOC {Integrated} Analog and Digital
Broadcasting : Is will their Single Tower Non-Directional
Antenna handle the 30 kHz Bandwidth required of IBOC ?

beyond that things get complicated -bmaoe- ~ RHF
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ups.com...
On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

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Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?


Phasors can not be obsolete. They can be badly designed, hi-Q and
narrowband, but there is no real change in components (coils and caps and
vacuum caps) or design since the first directionals on AM were used at
WSUN
and WOR in the 20's.


The big thing for an Analog AM/MW Radio Station that
is going to begin IBOC {Integrated} Analog and Digital
Broadcasting : Is will their Single Tower Non-Directional
Antenna handle the 30 kHz Bandwidth required of IBOC ?


Most single towers are flat enough and don't have a disparate enough
reactive component to do HD easily. The problem is with directional systems
that were designed for easy tuning and have a high Q. These have to be
broadbanded... most larger stations already did that to make analog audio
sound better.


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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?

Phasors can not be obsolete. They can be badly designed, hi-Q and
narrowband, but there is no real change in components (coils and caps and
vacuum caps) or design since the first directionals on AM were used at
WSUN
and WOR in the 20's.


The big thing for an Analog AM/MW Radio Station that
is going to begin IBOC {Integrated} Analog and Digital
Broadcasting : Is will their Single Tower Non-Directional
Antenna handle the 30 kHz Bandwidth required of IBOC ?


Most single towers are flat enough and don't have a disparate enough
reactive component to do HD easily. The problem is with directional systems
that were designed for easy tuning and have a high Q. These have to be
broadbanded... most larger stations already did that to make analog audio
sound better.


You seem to have an incorrect understanding. Not surprising.

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?

Phasors can not be obsolete. They can be badly designed, hi-Q and
narrowband, but there is no real change in components (coils and caps
and
vacuum caps) or design since the first directionals on AM were used at
WSUN
and WOR in the 20's.

The big thing for an Analog AM/MW Radio Station that
is going to begin IBOC {Integrated} Analog and Digital
Broadcasting : Is will their Single Tower Non-Directional
Antenna handle the 30 kHz Bandwidth required of IBOC ?


Most single towers are flat enough and don't have a disparate enough
reactive component to do HD easily. The problem is with directional
systems
that were designed for easy tuning and have a high Q. These have to be
broadbanded... most larger stations already did that to make analog
audio
sound better.


You seem to have an incorrect understanding. Not surprising.


Please set us straight...


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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David" wrote in message

...

Are they being nice or is their phasor obsolete?

Phasors can not be obsolete. They can be badly designed, hi-Q and
narrowband, but there is no real change in components (coils and caps
and
vacuum caps) or design since the first directionals on AM were used at
WSUN
and WOR in the 20's.

The big thing for an Analog AM/MW Radio Station that
is going to begin IBOC {Integrated} Analog and Digital
Broadcasting : Is will their Single Tower Non-Directional
Antenna handle the 30 kHz Bandwidth required of IBOC ?

Most single towers are flat enough and don't have a disparate enough
reactive component to do HD easily. The problem is with directional
systems
that were designed for easy tuning and have a high Q. These have to be
broadbanded... most larger stations already did that to make analog
audio
sound better.


You seem to have an incorrect understanding. Not surprising.


Please set us straight...


Guess where you went wrong. Give it a shot.

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Ventura, California
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