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David Eduardo[_4_] October 9th 07 06:31 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


However, according to the news release, the AM is NOT going away,
merely
changing to ESPN format.

Of course... they still own it, and putting something on it is
appropriate.

But you of course didn't indicate that to begin with! You made it seem
as
though
the station was going completely off AM. Figures!


WIBC, as a station, is going completely off AM. It will be replaced, at
its
dial position, by a different station with different call letters and a
different format... and less listening potential.


Same difference, retard! A station will remain, retard!


But, and the point in Inside radio, RBR, Tom Taylor Report, etc., is that
WIBC is moving. When a station moves its name or calls, intellectual
property, talent, etc. elsewhere... whether to a better channel on the same
band or to another or even to the internet... the station has moved from the
old channel. whatever takes its place on the prior frequency is a new
station... to the industry, the owner, to advertisers and to the ratings.

In this case, the ratings will track WIBC, with historical data from the
past AM listening and ongoing data from the new FM channel.

The analogy is moving from one house to another. If you move, your residence
is the new location; the new residents at the old house do not take on your
name and identity. Some folks might keep the old house and rent it out, but
the new residents are not their family.

1070 ceases to be WIBC in January. WIBC will be moved, to a new location.
The old location will become a different station.



dxAce October 9th 07 06:33 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


However, according to the news release, the AM is NOT going away,
merely
changing to ESPN format.

Of course... they still own it, and putting something on it is
appropriate.


But you of course didn't indicate that to begin with! You made it seem as
though
the station was going completely off AM. Figures!


WIBC, as a station, is going completely off AM.


I think you'd better re-read the article!

Here is the URL again:

http://www.wibc.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=76552

Good luck with your comprehension!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce October 9th 07 06:35 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


However, according to the news release, the AM is NOT going away,
merely
changing to ESPN format.

Of course... they still own it, and putting something on it is
appropriate.

But you of course didn't indicate that to begin with! You made it seem
as
though
the station was going completely off AM. Figures!

WIBC, as a station, is going completely off AM. It will be replaced, at
its
dial position, by a different station with different call letters and a
different format... and less listening potential.


Same difference, retard! A station will remain, retard!


But, and the point in Inside radio, RBR, Tom Taylor Report, etc., is that
WIBC is moving. When a station moves its name or calls, intellectual
property, talent, etc. elsewhere... whether to a better channel on the same
band or to another or even to the internet... the station has moved from the
old channel. whatever takes its place on the prior frequency is a new
station... to the industry, the owner, to advertisers and to the ratings.

In this case, the ratings will track WIBC, with historical data from the
past AM listening and ongoing data from the new FM channel.

The analogy is moving from one house to another. If you move, your residence
is the new location; the new residents at the old house do not take on your
name and identity. Some folks might keep the old house and rent it out, but
the new residents are not their family.

1070 ceases to be WIBC in January. WIBC will be moved, to a new location.
The old location will become a different station.


Re-read the article! Third paragraph!

http://www.wibc.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=76552



RHF October 9th 07 06:41 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 
On Oct 9, 8:29 am, Steve wrote:
On Oct 9, 10:24 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"dxAce" wrote in message


...


David Eduardo wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Oct 8, 9:28 pm, "


The question is whether the proponents of HD will succeed at
destroying AM broadcasting. I don't think they will, but it's still
playing out. If they don't, then like you I suspect that AM will
survive.


Today, 50 kw powerhouse WIBC in Indianapolis, the markets news talk
station,
announce it is moving to FM in 3 months.


However, according to the news release, the AM is NOT going away, merely
changing to ESPN format.


Of course... they still own it, and putting something on it is appropriate.
But, just like KTAR in Phoenix, they substituted a 4 share format that went
to FM for a format that maybe will get a 1 share to 1.5.


- - Later, they can write the whole assets value off....

- Maybe you should resort to bombing AM stations.
- Seems like that would get you the results you want,
- only more quickly.

La Bomba - Isn't that one of d'Eduardo's Programming Formats ?

Yeah - Then they could use Accelerated Depreciation
and 'write' AM/MW Radio Stations "Off" more quickly. ~ RHF

David Eduardo[_4_] October 9th 07 06:43 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


However, according to the news release, the AM is NOT going away,
merely
changing to ESPN format.

Of course... they still own it, and putting something on it is
appropriate.

But you of course didn't indicate that to begin with! You made it seem
as
though
the station was going completely off AM. Figures!


WIBC, as a station, is going completely off AM.


I think you'd better re-read the article!


Radio Station WIBC is going off AM and moving to FM. A totally new station
will take its place.



David Eduardo[_4_] October 9th 07 06:46 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


1070 ceases to be WIBC in January. WIBC will be moved, to a new location.
The old location will become a different station.


Re-read the article! Third paragraph!

http://www.wibc.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=76552


WIBC is moving to FM. A different station will be on 1070. Different format,
different talent, different content. Brand new.

The headline says, "WIBC to Make Switch to FM " which means there will be no
WIBC on AM. There will be a new station.



dxAce October 9th 07 06:47 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


However, according to the news release, the AM is NOT going away,
merely
changing to ESPN format.

Of course... they still own it, and putting something on it is
appropriate.

But you of course didn't indicate that to begin with! You made it seem
as
though
the station was going completely off AM. Figures!

WIBC, as a station, is going completely off AM.


I think you'd better re-read the article!


Radio Station WIBC is going off AM and moving to FM. A totally new station
will take its place.


Not what the article says!



dxAce October 9th 07 06:53 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


1070 ceases to be WIBC in January. WIBC will be moved, to a new location.
The old location will become a different station.


Re-read the article! Third paragraph!

http://www.wibc.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=76552


WIBC is moving to FM. A different station will be on 1070. Different format,
different talent, different content. Brand new.

The headline says, "WIBC to Make Switch to FM " which means there will be no
WIBC on AM. There will be a new station.


Sounds to me like WIBC-AM and WIBC-FM!



David Eduardo[_4_] October 9th 07 06:55 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Radio Station WIBC is going off AM and moving to FM. A totally new
station
will take its place.


Not what the article says!


Yes, it does. The article says "WIBC to Make Switch to FM " and describes,
vaguely as it will not come until January, a new sports talk format for the
AM channel. WIBC, with its news talk format will be on FM only.

Here is what Tom Taylor said today: (note the comments on "AM becoming less
a draw")

"Another 50-kw AM shares its format with a sister FM, then goes sports -
WIBC, Indianapolis.
Those solid-sounding rumors are borne out, as Emmis announces #1, a "93 days
of Christmas" stunt for the FM that's been CHR WNOU (93.1). And #2, the
impending birth of news/talk WIBC-FM on January 7, 2008. Where does that
leave 50-kw WIBC at 1070? Doing sports full-time, building on its current
agreements to carry Peyton Manning and the NFL Indianapolis Colts, plus the
NBA Indiana Pacers, Indiana University football, plus various racing
franchises like the IRL and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. (Some of that
will continue to be shared with sister "Hank FM.") The strategy mirrors what
Bonneville did in Phoenix with KTAR - it lifted the news/talk programming
(and the KTAR image) from 620 over to the FM dial. Then it created "Sports
620" on the original KTAR frequency. Operators are busy looking for unique
local content for their FMs and this is one answer - though long-term, there's
the prospect of the AM dial becoming less of a draw. And perhaps worth less
as an asset when the lenders get out their pencils. Is anybody thinking
about that? Emmis will keep the WNOU CHR format going on HD-2 and on the
Internet"



David Eduardo[_4_] October 9th 07 06:57 PM

BROADCAST RADIO: continuing to suck wind
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


1070 ceases to be WIBC in January. WIBC will be moved, to a new
location.
The old location will become a different station.

Re-read the article! Third paragraph!

http://www.wibc.com/News/Story.aspx?ID=76552


WIBC is moving to FM. A different station will be on 1070. Different
format,
different talent, different content. Brand new.

The headline says, "WIBC to Make Switch to FM " which means there will be
no
WIBC on AM. There will be a new station.


Sounds to me like WIBC-AM and WIBC-FM!


You don't know that, and neither do I. Generally, to avoid confusion in
diaries, each station would have separate calls.




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