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Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-]
Posts: 541 Sun, 2-Dec-2007 3:05 PM Tags : None http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....html#msg649760 It's a great topic. According to the postor, someone applying for a loan was denied despite working for the same station ten years straight-- because "radio announcer" checks in this week at #3 on the "high risk" careers list. It's hard to blame a lender for taking such relevant criteria into account. Where you're going is just as important as, perhaps even more than, where you've been. I was never told directly or in print, but off-the-record from a home mortgage company employee that my having worked in radio at the time certainly wasn't good. This person, who never worked a day in broadcasting, was well aware of the baggage coming with an applicant in radio. I HAVE been told by at least one potential employer (non-radio job) that the main reason I most likely wouldn't get the job (I didn't) was the fact that I'd worked in radio. This despite having interviewed twice before with others there, and passing some stupid "skills/ aptitude test" supposedly with the second-best score the proctor had ever seen (there were about 70 people in the room taking the test with me that day). But the company had had "bad experiences" with radio people, who would only take jobs there for a temporary paycheck in between broadcast gigs. Most disturbingly, I truly believe having worked a long time in radio now hurts one's chances at getting a job IN RADIO as well in many cases. ("We're looking for a fresh perspective, someone our listeners can better 'relate' to.") |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] Posts: 541 Sun, 2-Dec-2007 3:05 PM Tags : None http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....649760.html#ms... It's a great topic. According to the postor, someone applying for a loan was denied despite working for the same station ten years straight-- because "radio announcer" checks in this week at #3 on the "high risk" careers list. It's hard to blame a lender for taking such relevant criteria into account. Where you're going is just as important as, perhaps even more than, where you've been. I was never told directly or in print, but off-the-record from a home mortgage company employee that my having worked in radio at the time certainly wasn't good. This person, who never worked a day in broadcasting, was well aware of the baggage coming with an applicant in radio. I HAVE been told by at least one potential employer (non-radio job) that the main reason I most likely wouldn't get the job (I didn't) was the fact that I'd worked in radio. This despite having interviewed twice before with others there, and passing some stupid "skills/ aptitude test" supposedly with the second-best score the proctor had ever seen (there were about 70 people in the room taking the test with me that day). But the company had had "bad experiences" with radio people, who would only take jobs there for a temporary paycheck in between broadcast gigs. Most disturbingly, I truly believe having worked a long time in radio now hurts one's chances at getting a job IN RADIO as well in many cases. ("We're looking for a fresh perspective, someone our listeners can better 'relate' to.") If you believe that bunch of crap, I have a bridge I'd like to sell to you. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
On Dec 2, 8:42�pm, wrote:
On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? � Lead [-] Posts: 541 Sun, 2-Dec-2007 3:05 PM �Tags : None http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....649760.html#ms... It's a great topic. According to the postor, someone applying for a loan was denied despite working for the same station ten years straight-- because "radio announcer" checks in this week at #3 on the "high risk" careers list. It's hard to blame a lender for taking such relevant criteria into account. Where you're going is just as important as, perhaps even more than, where you've been. I was never told directly or in print, but off-the-record from a home mortgage company employee that my having worked in radio at the time certainly wasn't good. This person, who never worked a day in broadcasting, was well aware of the baggage coming with an applicant in radio. I HAVE been told by at least one potential employer (non-radio job) that the main reason I most likely wouldn't get the job (I didn't) was the fact that I'd worked in radio. This despite having interviewed twice before with others there, and passing some stupid "skills/ aptitude test" supposedly with the second-best score the proctor had ever seen (there were about 70 people in the room taking the test with me that day). But the company had had "bad experiences" with radio people, who would only take jobs there for a temporary paycheck in between broadcast gigs. Most disturbingly, I truly believe having worked a long time in radio now hurts one's chances at getting a job IN RADIO as well in many cases. ("We're looking for a fresh perspective, someone our listeners can better 'relate' to.") If you believe that bunch of crap, I have a bridge I'd like to sell to you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Perhaps, you work in the dying radio industry? |
I B OC'd and Half-Crocked - R U A Lone !
On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote:
Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] Posts: 541 Sun, 2-Dec-2007 3:05 PM Tags : None http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....649760.html#ms... It's a great topic. According to the postor, someone applying for a loan was denied despite working for the same station ten years straight-- because "radio announcer" checks in this week at #3 on the "high risk" careers list. It's hard to blame a lender for taking such relevant criteria into account. Where you're going is just as important as, perhaps even more than, where you've been. I was never told directly or in print, but off-the-record from a home mortgage company employee that my having worked in radio at the time certainly wasn't good. This person, who never worked a day in broadcasting, was well aware of the baggage coming with an applicant in radio. I HAVE been told by at least one potential employer (non-radio job) that the main reason I most likely wouldn't get the job (I didn't) was the fact that I'd worked in radio. This despite having interviewed twice before with others there, and passing some stupid "skills/ aptitude test" supposedly with the second-best score the proctor had ever seen (there were about 70 people in the room taking the test with me that day). But the company had had "bad experiences" with radio people, who would only take jobs there for a temporary paycheck in between broadcast gigs. Most disturbingly, I truly believe having worked a long time in radio now hurts one's chances at getting a job IN RADIO as well in many cases. ("We're looking for a fresh perspective, someone our listeners can better 'relate' to.") I B OC'd and Half-Crocked, -While- "Radio Announcers" may Check-In This Week At The #3 "High Risk" Careers List. You still remain Dead Last in the Interesting Post of the Day Charts and a Sad Testimony to Want-To-Be Careers-Gone-Wild Life-Style ! now go kiss your dog good night ~ RHF |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
On Dec 2, 11:51 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. You are becoming pensive. |
I B OC'd and Half-Crocked - R U A Lone !
On Dec 3, 1:15 am, RHF wrote:
On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] Posts: 541 Sun, 2-Dec-2007 3:05 PM Tags : None http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index....649760.html#ms... It's a great topic. According to the postor, someone applying for a loan was denied despite working for the same station ten years straight-- because "radio announcer" checks in this week at #3 on the "high risk" careers list. It's hard to blame a lender for taking such relevant criteria into account. Where you're going is just as important as, perhaps even more than, where you've been. I was never told directly or in print, but off-the-record from a home mortgage company employee that my having worked in radio at the time certainly wasn't good. This person, who never worked a day in broadcasting, was well aware of the baggage coming with an applicant in radio. I HAVE been told by at least one potential employer (non-radio job) that the main reason I most likely wouldn't get the job (I didn't) was the fact that I'd worked in radio. This despite having interviewed twice before with others there, and passing some stupid "skills/ aptitude test" supposedly with the second-best score the proctor had ever seen (there were about 70 people in the room taking the test with me that day). But the company had had "bad experiences" with radio people, who would only take jobs there for a temporary paycheck in between broadcast gigs. Most disturbingly, I truly believe having worked a long time in radio now hurts one's chances at getting a job IN RADIO as well in many cases. ("We're looking for a fresh perspective, someone our listeners can better 'relate' to.") I B OC'd and Half-Crocked, -While- "Radio Announcers" may Check-In This Week At The #3 "High Risk" Careers List. You still remain Dead Last in the Interesting Post of the Day Charts and a Sad Testimony to Want-To-Be Careers-Gone-Wild Life-Style ! now go kiss your dog good night ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - We only have cats. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: ... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. Have you ever accepted Payola or free piñatas? dxAce Michigan USA |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: ... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. Have you ever accepted Payola or free piñatas? The piñatas are a guaranteed fringe benefit, as are the Pollo Loco gift cards. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: ... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. Have you ever accepted Payola or free piñatas? The piñatas are a guaranteed fringe benefit, as are the Pollo Loco gift cards. Well, what about the Payola? |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: ... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. Have you ever accepted Payola or free piñatas? The piñatas are a guaranteed fringe benefit, as are the Pollo Loco gift cards. Well, what about the Payola? I don't select music, so that is a moot point. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: ... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. Have you ever accepted Payola or free piñatas? The piñatas are a guaranteed fringe benefit, as are the Pollo Loco gift cards. Well, what about the Payola? I don't select music, so that is a moot point. Well, have you EVER selected music, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Think real hard. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
On Dec 4, 3:33 pm, dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: ... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. Have you ever accepted Payola or free piñatas? The piñatas are a guaranteed fringe benefit, as are the Pollo Loco gift cards. Well, what about the Payola? I don't select music, so that is a moot point. Well, have you EVER selected music, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Think real hard.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My guess is that the only payment he's accepted stems from services rendered in an airport restroom. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: ... On Dec 2, 3:25 pm, IBOCcrock wrote: Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan? Or A Potential Job? Lead [-] No. Have you ever accepted Payola or free piñatas? The piñatas are a guaranteed fringe benefit, as are the Pollo Loco gift cards. Well, what about the Payola? I don't select music, so that is a moot point. Well, have you EVER selected music, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Think real hard. It takes no thinking. Payola only exists as a legal concept in the US, and I don't select music in the US. In fact, since payola is illegal in the US, and there have been less than 10 indictments for it since the 50's, it is very uncommon. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
On Dec 5, 11:21 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Everyone in radio is now worthless baggage with worthless stock. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
On Dec 5, 11:21 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. "I am a manager" I bet, that you are real asshole to work under - ever had sex with a subordinate in exchange for writing a glowing performance appraisal? I hear those Latina women are real tigers in bed. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
D Peter Maus wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. Yes, it does. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. A record label? Somewhere along the line I missed that one. Quite interesting! Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. The ever changing story of David Frackelton Gleason. Stay tuned! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. Yes, it does. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. A record label? Somewhere along the line I missed that one. Check the thread in alt.radio.broadcasting headed Who determines what artists get played on a corporate station's holiday playlist? The relevant post is here, in it's entirety: "Danny T" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 11:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Danny T" wrote in message ... You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the people that know me don't really. You are a troll who misunderstands both radio and music, and believes a minor record duck at a smaller Nashville label is a big shot. You could claim to be Shrek for all I care... your posts thoroughly discredit you as being in the music or radio industries. And I'm really the Lone Ranger. You really are a gas buddy. I've been posting here since about the creation of the group and anyone that's been around for a while knows I have visited the radio group for many many years, going back to when it was a minor confusion with the real rec.radio.broadcasting. You did note that one of your cross posts is to a RADIO group which is where your nasty, lying and filthy comments accusing the industry of generalized payola were particularly heinous. If you want to lie about radio, radio programmers and how music is programmed, don't do it where you may actually find people who are in the business. I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to know - really My background is in radio broadcasting, although I owned a publishing company and a small label at one time... outside the US. OH- I think Jimmy will be on Kenny Chesney's boat again for christmas out on St. John if you want to tell him yourself that he is a little little duck. He's a record duck for a smaller Nashville country label. Period. "Quack, quack, play my record." And you seem to be a charter captain who dabbles in music. He might be on his own this winter though because Kenny is a power boat kind of guy. (he has a 65 foot sea ray) You are not Kenny. Kenny is actually a star and a great country artist. But power boaters are the scourge of the Caribbean, especially when loaded with drinking gringos. Quite interesting! Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. The ever changing story of David Frackelton Gleason. Stay tuned! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
D Peter Maus wrote: dxAce wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. Yes, it does. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. A record label? Somewhere along the line I missed that one. Check the thread in alt.radio.broadcasting headed Who determines what artists get played on a corporate station's holiday playlist? The relevant post is here, in it's entirety: And a publishing company as well... amazing! "Danny T" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 11:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Danny T" wrote in message ... You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the people that know me don't really. You are a troll who misunderstands both radio and music, and believes a minor record duck at a smaller Nashville label is a big shot. You could claim to be Shrek for all I care... your posts thoroughly discredit you as being in the music or radio industries. And I'm really the Lone Ranger. You really are a gas buddy. I've been posting here since about the creation of the group and anyone that's been around for a while knows I have visited the radio group for many many years, going back to when it was a minor confusion with the real rec.radio.broadcasting. You did note that one of your cross posts is to a RADIO group which is where your nasty, lying and filthy comments accusing the industry of generalized payola were particularly heinous. If you want to lie about radio, radio programmers and how music is programmed, don't do it where you may actually find people who are in the business. I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to know - really My background is in radio broadcasting, although I owned a publishing company and a small label at one time... outside the US. OH- I think Jimmy will be on Kenny Chesney's boat again for christmas out on St. John if you want to tell him yourself that he is a little little duck. He's a record duck for a smaller Nashville country label. Period. "Quack, quack, play my record." And you seem to be a charter captain who dabbles in music. He might be on his own this winter though because Kenny is a power boat kind of guy. (he has a 65 foot sea ray) You are not Kenny. Kenny is actually a star and a great country artist. But power boaters are the scourge of the Caribbean, especially when loaded with drinking gringos. Quite interesting! Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. The ever changing story of David Frackelton Gleason. Stay tuned! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
dxAce wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: dxAce wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. Yes, it does. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. A record label? Somewhere along the line I missed that one. Check the thread in alt.radio.broadcasting headed Who determines what artists get played on a corporate station's holiday playlist? The relevant post is here, in it's entirety: And a publishing company as well... amazing! What will be next, an automobile dealership? "Danny T" wrote in message ... On Nov 29, 11:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Danny T" wrote in message ... You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the people that know me don't really. You are a troll who misunderstands both radio and music, and believes a minor record duck at a smaller Nashville label is a big shot. You could claim to be Shrek for all I care... your posts thoroughly discredit you as being in the music or radio industries. And I'm really the Lone Ranger. You really are a gas buddy. I've been posting here since about the creation of the group and anyone that's been around for a while knows I have visited the radio group for many many years, going back to when it was a minor confusion with the real rec.radio.broadcasting. You did note that one of your cross posts is to a RADIO group which is where your nasty, lying and filthy comments accusing the industry of generalized payola were particularly heinous. If you want to lie about radio, radio programmers and how music is programmed, don't do it where you may actually find people who are in the business. I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to know - really My background is in radio broadcasting, although I owned a publishing company and a small label at one time... outside the US. OH- I think Jimmy will be on Kenny Chesney's boat again for christmas out on St. John if you want to tell him yourself that he is a little little duck. He's a record duck for a smaller Nashville country label. Period. "Quack, quack, play my record." And you seem to be a charter captain who dabbles in music. He might be on his own this winter though because Kenny is a power boat kind of guy. (he has a 65 foot sea ray) You are not Kenny. Kenny is actually a star and a great country artist. But power boaters are the scourge of the Caribbean, especially when loaded with drinking gringos. Quite interesting! Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. The ever changing story of David Frackelton Gleason. Stay tuned! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 11:21 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. "I am a manager" I bet, that you are real asshole to work under - ever had sex with a subordinate in exchange for writing a glowing performance appraisal? I hear those Latina women are real tigers in bed. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 +10dB |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||| TROLL-O-METER 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 +10dB |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||| BULL****-O-METER |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... D Peter Maus wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. Yes, it does. I was actually quite famous in Puerto Rico for removing record promoters from stations I managed. We made our music decisions via a music committee of the PD, the MD and some "in demo" staffers, not by manager's fiat. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. A record label? Somewhere along the line I missed that one. Quite interesting! Many broadcast companies have owned labels. It's not unusual. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. The ever changing story of David Frackelton Gleason. Stay tuned! I said I was not a general manager. Big difference. The main point is that I do not pick music... actually, our listeners do. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. But you are a faux Hispanic, and have been so since circa 2000. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Quick, get that up on your website! Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... The relevant post is here, in it's entirety: And a publishing company as well... amazing! I had the Ecuadorian rights to the Brambila Musical Mexico catalog, mostly stuff published on sheet music for night clubs and such. I don't recall ever playing any of the songs on the radio, as Mexican music was not in any of my formats there. The label stuff was all licensing, mostly collections of 40's and 50's stuff that was packaged for retail. We did not promote to radio programmers. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... And a publishing company as well... amazing! What will be next, an automobile dealership? We imported and sold sheet music of old Mexican compositions. Probably did not make more than a few thousand dollars a year on it, but it helped build good relations with sources in Mexico. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... The record label was in Ecuador. Quick, get that up on your website! It falls in the "who cares" department along with a night club we had for a while (modeled after the clubs Organización Radio Centro had in Mexico) and other small businesses, like technical services and such. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... The relevant post is here, in it's entirety: And a publishing company as well... amazing! I had the Ecuadorian rights to the Brambila Musical Mexico catalog, mostly stuff published on sheet music for night clubs and such. I don't recall ever playing any of the songs on the radio, as Mexican music was not in any of my formats there. The label stuff was all licensing, mostly collections of 40's and 50's stuff that was packaged for retail. We did not promote to radio programmers. Uh-Huh! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... And a publishing company as well... amazing! What will be next, an automobile dealership? We imported and sold sheet music of old Mexican compositions. Probably did not make more than a few thousand dollars a year on it, but it helped build good relations with sources in Mexico. Uh-Huh! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... The record label was in Ecuador. Quick, get that up on your website! It falls in the "who cares" department along with a night club we had for a while (modeled after the clubs Organización Radio Centro had in Mexico) and other small businesses, like technical services and such. Uh-Huh! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. Hmmm...Interesting...and still no answer. Not totally unexpected. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. Hmmm...Interesting...and still no answer. Not totally unexpected. I'm just messing with DXass. If I am not in a position to decide on new music ads, there is no way I could have been even offered payola. So, naturally, I have not received any. It's amazing how people think that programmers in major markets (the only place paying to get a song played makes any sense to the record ducks) would risk six-figure salaries for the small amounts record companies might offer. Payola hurts ratings, jeopardizes jobs and is certainly more talked about than done. The fact that less than 10 people have been indicted for this crime in the last 50 years says a lot. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
On Dec 5, 3:44�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... On Dec 5, 11:21 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. "I am a manager" I bet, that you are real asshole to work under - ever had sex with a subordinate in exchange for writing a glowing performance appraisal? I hear those Latina women are real tigers in bed. 0 �1 �2 �3 �4 �5 �6 �7 �8 �9 �10 �+10dB |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||| TROLL-O-METER 0 �1 �2 �3 �4 �5 �6 �7 �8 �9 �10 �+10dB |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||| BULL****-O-METER- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good - it is finally starting to get to you! |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
D Peter Maus wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. Hmmm...Interesting...and still no answer. Not totally unexpected. Well, he's been perfecting this form of behaviour for better than 50 years. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. Hmmm...Interesting...and still no answer. Not totally unexpected. I'm just messing with DXass. If I am not in a position to decide on new music ads, there is no way I could have been even offered payola. So, naturally, I have not received any. That wasn't the question. The question was, have you ever selected music at a radio station. It's amazing how people think that programmers in major markets (the only place paying to get a song played makes any sense to the record ducks) would risk six-figure salaries for the small amounts record companies might offer. Payola hurts ratings, jeopardizes jobs and is certainly more talked about than done. The fact that less than 10 people have been indicted for this crime in the last 50 years says a lot. Indictments are, like most legal concepts, narrowly defined. And are only legal concepts. Not realities. So is the term 'Payola.' Elliot Spitzer built much of his legal reputation on the taking of all the major broadcasters to task for Pay for Play, when he was AG of New York. And extracted enormous tributes as settlement. There were no indictments. And there were no illegalities. But he pursued them, just the same. And won his tributes for it. Nowhere was the term 'payola' used. But there WAS Pay for Play. Tidy. Legal. With full disclosures. Grossly misrepresented to the public as Payola. But it was Pay for Play. CBS called them Audio End Caps. And we did them for a few days in Chicago, until Rober Feder blew the entire concept out of proportion in his column, and trashed the program as 'Payola.' Perfectly legal. Open and above board. Pay for Play. But not Payola. Don't hide behind narrow legal definitions, and historic legal subtleties to avoid answering the question. Otherwise, you just sound like the shill you so vociferously deny you are. As a member here once said, 'the Truth does not require debate tactics.' I would add, that debate tactics only raise more questions. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
dxAce wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "D Peter Maus" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... Have you EVER selected music in the US, and if so, have you ever accepted Payola? Stop obfuscating! I am a manager, not a music director. Your question is irrelevant. Actually, it's not. That, with all you have said, here, you can't simply say "yes" or "no" reveals a good deal. And that you now claim to have once owned a record label as well as radio stations, the question is quite relevant. The record label was in Ecuador. Payola is only a legal concept and proscribed in the US. Also, in a previous thread, you've claimed you were NOT a manager, Interesting discrepancy. I am not a GM, and have not been since 1982. Hmmm...Interesting...and still no answer. Not totally unexpected. Well, he's been perfecting this form of behaviour for better than 50 years. Well...50 years so far as anyone has been able to demonstrate. But even that gets called into question by his own presentation. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... Good - it is finally starting to get to you! Nah, it's just like bull fighting in Portugal... a lot of fun, but the bull does not die. |
Eduardo - Has Working In Radio Cost You A Loan?
David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ... Good - it is finally starting to get to you! Nah, it's just like bull fighting in Portugal... a lot of fun, but the bull does not die. Yes, from you, the bull goes on and on. |
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