"BRACING FOR THE WORST"

"In fact, the earnings report was so dismal that it shocked industry
analysts and led to yet another drop in Citadel's already sagging
stock price, pushing it further into penny stock territory. Given a
brutal outlook for the radio business and its own particularly
alarming financial future, the company was forced to write off an
unexpectedly large portion of the value of its stations, sending
investors running for cover. UPDATE: as the trading day continued, CDL
shares were pounded even further, closing down $1.46 at $2.40 a share
(a 38% loss in just one day). Volume was a heavy 11.5 million shares
(405% higher than normal) and Citadel's total market cap loss for the
day was a staggering $385,000,000. As recently as 2003, Citadel shares
traded as high as $23.00"

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...ner-faces.html

On Dec 10, 11:55 am, wrote:
"BRACING FOR THE WORST"

"In fact, the earnings report was so dismal that it shocked industry
analysts and led to yet another drop in Citadel's already sagging
stock price, pushing it further into penny stock territory. Given a
brutal outlook for the radio business and its own particularly
alarming financial future, the company was forced to write off an
unexpectedly large portion of the value of its stations, sending
investors running for cover. UPDATE: as the trading day continued, CDL
shares were pounded even further, closing down $1.46 at $2.40 a share
(a 38% loss in just one day). Volume was a heavy 11.5 million shares
(405% higher than normal) and Citadel's total market cap loss for the
day was a staggering $385,000,000. As recently as 2003, Citadel shares
traded as high as $23.00"

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...loyer-abc-owne...

Eduardo - I never thought that the demise of terrestrial radio would
happen so quickly!

wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:55 am, wrote:
"BRACING FOR THE WORST"

"In fact, the earnings report was so dismal that it shocked industry
analysts and led to yet another drop in Citadel's already sagging
stock price, pushing it further into penny stock territory. Given a
brutal outlook for the radio business and its own particularly
alarming financial future, the company was forced to write off an
unexpectedly large portion of the value of its stations, sending
investors running for cover. UPDATE: as the trading day continued, CDL
shares were pounded even further, closing down $1.46 at $2.40 a share
(a 38% loss in just one day). Volume was a heavy 11.5 million shares
(405% higher than normal) and Citadel's total market cap loss for the
day was a staggering $385,000,000. As recently as 2003, Citadel shares
traded as high as $23.00"

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...loyer-abc-owne...

Eduardo - I never thought that the demise of terrestrial radio would
happen so quickly!


Not to **** on your charcoal, but according to the latest surveys,
web listening is off, too.

On Dec 10, 12:11 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:55 am, wrote:
"BRACING FOR THE WORST"

"In fact, the earnings report was so dismal that it shocked industry
analysts and led to yet another drop in Citadel's already sagging
stock price, pushing it further into penny stock territory. Given a
brutal outlook for the radio business and its own particularly
alarming financial future, the company was forced to write off an
unexpectedly large portion of the value of its stations, sending
investors running for cover. UPDATE: as the trading day continued, CDL
shares were pounded even further, closing down $1.46 at $2.40 a share
(a 38% loss in just one day). Volume was a heavy 11.5 million shares
(405% higher than normal) and Citadel's total market cap loss for the
day was a staggering $385,000,000. As recently as 2003, Citadel shares
traded as high as $23.00"

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...loyer-abc-owne...

Eduardo - I never thought that the demise of terrestrial radio would
happen so quickly!

Not to **** on your charcoal, but according to the latest surveys,
web listening is off, too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Look what the new royalty rates will do to terrestrial broadcasters,
who move to Intenet streaming, such as Clear Channel is doing:

"Internet Radio Royalties and WOXY"

"The annual cost of running WOXY could more than double to around $2
million, far exceeding the station's $500,000 to $1 million in annual
revenue. The board's decision could still be appealed or rescinded by
Congress, but WOXY manager Bryan Jay Miller says, I don't see the
situation getting any better."

http://www.eachnotesecure.com/intern...ties-and-woxy/

Boy, CC sure has some business-model! Good luck streaming HD Radio to
cell phones, etc with the new chipsets coming out! Ha! Ha!

On Dec 10, 12:21 pm, wrote:
On Dec 10, 12:11 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:





wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:55 am, wrote:
"BRACING FOR THE WORST"

"In fact, the earnings report was so dismal that it shocked industry
analysts and led to yet another drop in Citadel's already sagging
stock price, pushing it further into penny stock territory. Given a
brutal outlook for the radio business and its own particularly
alarming financial future, the company was forced to write off an
unexpectedly large portion of the value of its stations, sending
investors running for cover. UPDATE: as the trading day continued, CDL
shares were pounded even further, closing down $1.46 at $2.40 a share
(a 38% loss in just one day). Volume was a heavy 11.5 million shares
(405% higher than normal) and Citadel's total market cap loss for the
day was a staggering $385,000,000. As recently as 2003, Citadel shares
traded as high as $23.00"

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...loyer-abc-owne...

Eduardo - I never thought that the demise of terrestrial radio would
happen so quickly!

Not to **** on your charcoal, but according to the latest surveys,
web listening is off, too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Look what the new royalty rates will do to terrestrial broadcasters,
who move to Intenet streaming, such as Clear Channel is doing:

"Internet Radio Royalties and WOXY"

"The annual cost of running WOXY could more than double to around $2
million, far exceeding the station's $500,000 to $1 million in annual
revenue. The board's decision could still be appealed or rescinded by
Congress, but WOXY manager Bryan Jay Miller says, I don't see the
situation getting any better."

http://www.eachnotesecure.com/intern...ties-and-woxy/

Boy, CC sure has some business-model! Good luck streaming HD Radio to
cell phones, etc with the new chipsets coming out! Ha! Ha!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Also, forget Microsoft's and iBiquity's MSN Direct partnership (MSN
Direct is a loser anyway) and possibly streaming HD Radio to Sync.
Thank God for SoundExchange!

On Dec 10, 12:28�pm, wrote:
On Dec 10, 12:21 pm, wrote:





On Dec 10, 12:11 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:55 am, wrote:
"BRACING FOR THE WORST"

"In fact, the earnings report was so dismal that it shocked industry
analysts and led to yet another drop in Citadel's already sagging
stock price, pushing it further into penny stock territory. Given a
brutal outlook for the radio business and its own particularly
alarming financial future, the company was forced to write off an
unexpectedly large portion of the value of its stations, sending
investors running for cover. UPDATE: as the trading day continued, CDL
shares were pounded even further, closing down $1.46 at $2.40 a share
(a 38% loss in just one day). Volume was a heavy 11.5 million shares
(405% higher than normal) and Citadel's total market cap loss for the
day was a staggering $385,000,000. As recently as 2003, Citadel shares
traded as high as $23.00"

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...loyer-abc-owne...

Eduardo - I never thought that the demise of terrestrial radio would
happen so quickly!

� �Not to **** on your charcoal, but according to the latest surveys,
web listening is off, too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Look what the new royalty rates will do to terrestrial broadcasters,
who move to Intenet streaming, such as Clear Channel is doing:

"Internet Radio Royalties and WOXY"

"The annual cost of running WOXY could more than double to around $2
million, far exceeding the station's $500,000 to $1 million in annual
revenue. The board's decision could still be appealed or rescinded by
Congress, but WOXY manager Bryan Jay Miller says, I don't see the
situation getting any better."

http://www.eachnotesecure.com/intern...ties-and-woxy/

Boy, CC sure has some business-model! Good luck streaming HD Radio to
cell phones, etc with the new chipsets coming out! �Ha! Ha!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Also, forget Microsoft's and iBiquity's MSN Direct partnership (MSN
Direct is a loser anyway) and possibly streaming HD Radio to Sync.
Thank God for SoundExchange!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"More on the Copyright Royalty Board Decision on Internet Radio Music
Royalties"

"... a digital signal of an over-the-air station is in fact subject to
these royalties. When the royalties were first adopted, the
broadcasters claimed that their signals, when just retransmitted on
the Internet, were exempt, but the Copyright Office and the Courts
rejected that argument."

Written By: David Oxenford On March 5, 2007 10:19 PM

http://tinyurl.com/34yqnf

Yup, yup, yup!

On Dec 10 2007, 11:28*am, wrote:
On Dec 10, 12:21 pm, wrote:





On Dec 10, 12:11 pm, D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:55 am, wrote:
"BRACING FOR THE WORST"

"In fact, the earnings report was so dismal that it shocked industry
analysts and led to yet another drop in Citadel's already sagging
stock price, pushing it further into penny stock territory. Given a
brutal outlook for the radio business and its own particularly
alarming financial future, the company was forced to write off an
unexpectedly large portion of the value of its stations, sending
investors running for cover. UPDATE: as the trading day continued, CDL
shares were pounded even further, closing down $1.46 at $2.40 a share
(a 38% loss in just one day). Volume was a heavy 11.5 million shares
(405% higher than normal) and Citadel's total market cap loss for the
day was a staggering $385,000,000. As recently as 2003, Citadel shares
traded as high as $23.00"

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2...loyer-abc-owne...

Eduardo - I never thought that the demise of terrestrial radio would
happen so quickly!

* *Not to **** on your charcoal, but according to the latest surveys,
web listening is off, too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Look what the new royalty rates will do to terrestrial broadcasters,
who move to Intenet streaming, such as Clear Channel is doing:

"Internet Radio Royalties and WOXY"

"The annual cost of running WOXY could more than double to around $2
million, far exceeding the station's $500,000 to $1 million in annual
revenue. The board's decision could still be appealed or rescinded by
Congress, but WOXY manager Bryan Jay Miller says, I don't see the
situation getting any better."

http://www.eachnotesecure.com/intern...ties-and-woxy/

Boy, CC sure has some business-model! Good luck streaming HD Radio to
cell phones, etc with the new chipsets coming out! *Ha! Ha!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Also, forget Microsoft's and iBiquity's MSN Direct partnership (MSN
Direct is a loser anyway) and possibly streaming HD Radio to Sync.
Thank God for SoundExchange!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sign - on San Diego which is owned by one of the major papers out
there -- just started 2 new internet radio stations. They are hoping
this will bring in extra income as their print income is declining.
Thought that was interesting. Apparently, they have invested a lot of
money, man hours and space to pull off these two new stations. I know
one is supposed to be talk and primarily news, but I'm not sure what
format the other one is going with. They have also just hired a
complete staff - with talent, sales and everybody else.

"candy rosa" wrote in message
...

Sign - on San Diego which is owned by one of the major papers out
there -- just started 2 new internet radio stations. They are hoping
this will bring in extra income as their print income is declining.
Thought that was interesting. Apparently, they have invested a lot of
money, man hours and space to pull off these two new stations. I know
one is supposed to be talk and primarily news, but I'm not sure what
format the other one is going with. They have also just hired a
complete staff - with talent, sales and everybody else.

So far, telephone polling has shown no listening. This seems to be like
the usage of 1500 in DC when Bonneville moved the talk and news format to
FM. They used the Washington Post and its staff, and got no ratings at
all... well, maybe a 0.3.

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Jan 8, 9:55 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"candy rosa" wrote in message

...

Sign - on San Diego which is owned by one of the major papers out
there -- just started 2 new internet radio stations. They are hoping
this will bring in extra income as their print income is declining.
Thought that was interesting. Apparently, they have invested a lot of
money, man hours and space to pull off these two new stations. I know
one is supposed to be talk and primarily news, but I'm not sure what
format the other one is going with. They have also just hired a
complete staff - with talent, sales and everybody else.



So far, telephone polling has shown no listening. This seems to be like
the usage of 1500 in DC when Bonneville moved the talk and news format
to
FM. They used the Washington Post and its staff, and got no ratings at
all... well, maybe a 0.3.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So, how long did the DC thing last?? Do you think the Sign - on San
Diego thing will bite the dust soon?? That's a huge investment to
have no appreciable return.

They gave it a year, it had no growth, and they nuked it. And it was on a 50
kw AM (a bad 50 kw AM, but it was on air radio), not a web stream.

It's probably either too early or to esoteric or too deep.

Just more of the old media that people in general don't like anymore.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Jan 8, 7:55*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
-
- Sign - on San Diego which is owned by one of the major papers
- out there -- just started 2 new internet radio stations. *They are
- hoping this will bring in extra income as their print income is
- declining. Thought that was interesting. *Apparently, they have
- invested a lot of money, man hours and space to pull off these
- two new stations. *I know one is supposed to be talk and primarily
- news, but I'm not sure what format the other one is going with.
-*They have also just hired a complete staff - with talent, sales
- and everybody else.
-

d'Eduardo,

SignOn San Diego .Com - So they are developing a Completely New
{Internet} Radio Station with a Local Staff -but- It's on the
Internet
-not- Over-the-Air -but2- It don't have a Transmitter.

SignOn San Diego .Com - http://www.signonsandiego.com/
CopyRight © 1995-2008 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.
-Note- A Copley Newspaper - http://www.copleynewspapers.com/

-BUT- So far I do not see any Internet Radio 'There'.

FWIW - The San Diego Union-Tribune's SignOn San Diego website
is set to officially launch its all-San Diego-music all-the-time
Streaming {Internet} Radio Station.
http://www.clickz.com/showPage.html?page=3602291

I FOUND IT - "Local Talk Radio for San Diego"
http://www.sdtalk.com/sdtalkhome.asp
Welcome to SignOnSanDiego's "SDTalk" :
Where San Diego Comes to Talk

-Claim- "SD Talk" and "World Talk Radio" is the largest
Internet Talk Network in the World.

"World Talk Radio" - http://www.worldtalkradio.com/
Where The World Comes To Talk !
About -World Talk Radio
* http://www.worldtalkradio.com/about-us.html

=IF= Lack of Local Content is One of the Items that is Killing
AM & FM Radio Stations : Having a Local Staff may Grow an
Internet Radio Station.

Real Estate : location, Location. LOCATION !

Radio : content, Content. CONTENT !

Provided that "That" Internet Radio Station is 'Seen' as a Web
{Listening} Portal [HomePage] by it's Listeners : The Place To
Go-To on the Internet when they are Motivated by what they
Hear-on-the-Radio. Radio : News & Info; Video & Graphics;
OnLine Chat & Contesting; Buy-That-Tune; etc.

-Note- Make Us {SignOn San Diego .Com} Your Home Page
http://www.signonsandiego.com/about/...akeushome.html

What's Their Business Model ? : Free Over-the-Internet Radio
with Paid Advertising ! -Hey- May be that will work.

FWIW - Remember many of the 1st Radio Stations were Owned
by 'Local' Newspapers and were Business Extensions of those
'Local' Newspapers.
* IMHO Radio was better back then with Local Ownership and
Local Talent.
* Late Night DXing got you a 'different' Voice-from-a-Far -not-
20~50 Radio Staions all broadcasting Coast-to-Coast AM.

~ RHF