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Mike[_2_] December 13th 07 05:25 PM

Which would you choose?
 
On Dec 12, 2:21 pm, wrote:

Eaton/Gundig/Tecsun radios are poor quality and are overpriced - hell,
the $150 Gundig E5 is for all purposes, the same radio as the $65
Degen 1103! I had a Grundig/TecsunEaton S350 and it was the cheapest
piece-of-**** radio that I have ever owned.


Yes, you are right that the S350 is hardly worth the cost. Some folks,
though, really like the audio.

I was actually pretty impressed with the Eton E5. You can get it new
for around $100 (ArtofSale's eBay shop) or you can get one that's been
returned (usually because the recipient has no desire to listen to SW)
for around $70 on eBay. The E5 may be the most sensitive portable
currently available.

The Eton E1 hardly deserves your blanket condemnation. If you can get
hold of one that works (OK, I had to return the first two I bought!),
it's probably the best portable that you can get your hands on. All
the bells and whistles are there. It behaves like a desktop
communications receiver. And the E1 is available for around $230 both
through Circuit City and National Geographic. At that price, it's a
steal.

I think the history of the Grundig/Tecsun Sat800 also disproves your
blanket condemnation. While huge, the Sat800 is one of the best SW
radios one can listen to. Whether you truly consider it to be a
portable is probably a legitimate concern.

So, no, I think you are clearly wrong about all Eton/Tecsun/Grundigs
being of poor quality and overpriced.

Mike
Louisville

[email protected] December 13th 07 06:11 PM

Which would you choose?
 
On Dec 13, 12:25 pm, Mike wrote:
On Dec 12, 2:21 pm, wrote:


Eaton/Gundig/Tecsun radios are poor quality and are overpriced - hell,
the $150 Gundig E5 is for all purposes, the same radio as the $65
Degen 1103! I had a Grundig/TecsunEaton S350 and it was the cheapest
piece-of-**** radio that I have ever owned.


Yes, you are right that the S350 is hardly worth the cost. Some folks,
though, really like the audio.

I was actually pretty impressed with the Eton E5. You can get it new
for around $100 (ArtofSale's eBay shop) or you can get one that's been
returned (usually because the recipient has no desire to listen to SW)
for around $70 on eBay. The E5 may be the most sensitive portable
currently available.

The Eton E1 hardly deserves your blanket condemnation. If you can get
hold of one that works (OK, I had to return the first two I bought!),
it's probably the best portable that you can get your hands on. All
the bells and whistles are there. It behaves like a desktop
communications receiver. And the E1 is available for around $230 both
through Circuit City and National Geographic. At that price, it's a
steal.

I think the history of the Grundig/Tecsun Sat800 also disproves your
blanket condemnation. While huge, the Sat800 is one of the best SW
radios one can listen to. Whether you truly consider it to be a
portable is probably a legitimate concern.

So, no, I think you are clearly wrong about all Eton/Tecsun/Grundigs
being of poor quality and overpriced.

Mike
Louisville


Ever since the Sony ICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all
follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk.

Mike[_2_] December 13th 07 07:30 PM

Which would you choose?
 
On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote:
Ever since the Sony ICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all
follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk


The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010
is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the
case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna
receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply
connections are notorious for going bad.

Are you also suggesting that the Sony SW77 and the Sony 7600G and
7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and
DX440.

I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to
get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I
think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong.

You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket
condemnations lack credibility.

Mike


RHF December 13th 07 07:41 PM

Two Sale Prices - Eton E1 XM-Ready AM/FM Radio
 
On Dec 13, 9:25 am, Mike wrote:
On Dec 12, 2:21 pm, wrote:


Eaton/Gundig/Tecsun radios are poor quality and are overpriced - hell,
the $150 Gundig E5 is for all purposes, the same radio as the $65
Degen 1103! I had a Grundig/TecsunEaton S350 and it was the cheapest
piece-of-**** radio that I have ever owned.


Yes, you are right that the S350 is hardly worth the cost. Some folks,
though, really like the audio.

I was actually pretty impressed with the Eton E5. You can get it new
for around $100 (ArtofSale's eBay shop) or you can get one that's been
returned (usually because the recipient has no desire to listen to SW)
for around $70 on eBay. The E5 may be the most sensitive portable
currently available.

The Eton E1 hardly deserves your blanket condemnation. If you can get
hold of one that works (OK, I had to return the first two I bought!),
it's probably the best portable that you can get your hands on. All
the bells and whistles are there. It behaves like a desktop
communications receiver.


- And the E1 is available for around $230 both through
- Circuit City and National Geographic. At that price,
- it's a steal.

Mike - Nice Price Tips ~ RHF

Eton E1 XM-Ready AM/FM Radio
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/produ....do?oid=120732
Circuit City Item # ETN E1 - Price $224.96

Eton E1 {Professional} XM Shortwave Radio
http://shop.nationalgeographic.com/p.../2486/107.html
National Geographic Store Item # 72086 - Price $299.95

[email protected] December 15th 07 07:02 AM

Which would you choose?
 
On Dec 14, 8:30 am, Mike wrote:
On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote:

Ever since the SonyICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all
follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk


The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010
is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the
case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna
receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply
connections are notorious for going bad.

Are you also suggesting that the SonySW77and the Sony 7600G and
7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and
DX440.

I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to
get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I
think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong.

You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket
condemnations lack credibility.

Mike


My SW77 had died and took it to a tech saying I think some of the
capacitors were 'leaking' (electrically) was told yes indeed several
electrolytics had leaked 'electrolyte' onto the main pcb causing many
problems that could not be reliable repaired! Asked wasn't it unusual
for several capacitors to leak simultaenously and answered in the
affirmative. Hadn't been used or stored in unusual conditions. Am
****ed off. Had the predecessor 2010D (I think) and had problems with
that too. With my SW77 it works perfectly except no audio from
speaker. Audio from headphone jack is OK???????????

Mike[_2_] December 15th 07 11:12 AM

Which would you choose?
 
On Dec 15, 2:02�am, wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:30 am, Mike wrote:





On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote:


Ever since the SonyICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all
follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk


The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010
is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the
case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna
receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply
connections are notorious for going bad.


Are you also suggesting that the SonySW77and the Sony 7600G and
7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and
DX440.


I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to
get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I
think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong.


You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket
condemnations lack credibility.


Mike


My SW77 had died and took it to a tech saying I think some of the
capacitors were 'leaking' (electrically) was told yes indeed several
electrolytics had leaked 'electrolyte' onto the main pcb �causing many
problems that could not be reliable repaired! �Asked wasn't it unusual
for several capacitors to leak simultaenously and answered in the
affirmative. �Hadn't been used or stored in unusual conditions. �Am
****ed off. �Had the predecessor 2010D (I think) and had problems with
that too. �With my SW77 it works perfectly except no audio from
speaker. �Audio from headphone jack is OK???????????- Hide quoted text -

_______________________________________________

I had a very similar problem with my SW77. Leaking capacitors kept the
radio from working in either SSB or sync. Noel Ramos, a freelance
technician who specializes in repairing 2010s and SW77s, was able to
fix it up as good as new. You could probably locate his new address on
the 2010 Yahoo group. As I remember, his charges were very reasonable
and his work was impressive.

Good luck with the SW77!

Mike


Luke Scharf December 16th 07 10:56 PM

Which would you choose?
 
wrote:
Asked wasn't it unusual
for several capacitors to leak simultaenously and answered in the
affirmative.


I know nothing about this radio or the year that it was manufactured...
But 2-3 years ago, there was a big problem with the capacitors in
computers. Dell and Apple were both hit with this, and had to replace a
large number of motherboards.

It caused all kinds of grief for the IT folks cursed with these units --
many of us who were taking care of computer-labs at the time ended up
replacing the motherboards on at least 2/3rds of the machines that we
purchased during that era.

I think that Dell may have extended its warranty on the motherboards and
power supplies manufactured during this time. It was quite easy to get
a replacement motherboard. All you had to say was "I see a bulging
capacitor", and the replacement part would be on its way immediately.

The backrumor is that there are 2-3 factories in Asia that make all of
the capacitors that are used for the big computer-manufacturers (most
companies like Dell, HP, Apple, IBM/Lenovo and others are built-to-spec
in these factories, alongside most off-brand computers). One of those
capacitor factories started making sub-spec capacitors in order to cut
costs or something, and the rest of the world had a big problem. Not
unlike the exploding Sony lithium-ion batteries that were a big deal
last year. I wonder what it'll be this year?

Anyway, if this radio was made 2-3 years ago using capacitors from that
factory, it would not be at all unusual for several of the caps to
bulging, leaking, or behaving oddly. I never had one explode, though --
from that problem, anyway. :-)

-Luke

RHF December 17th 07 09:05 AM

The Evolution of the "Cheap Plastic Junk" Anti-Radio-Man
 
On Dec 13, 11:30 am, Mike wrote:
On Dec 13, 1:11 pm, wrote:

Ever since the Sony ICF-2010 and RS DX-440 went out of production, all
follow-on SW radios have been almost utter cheap plastic junk


The Eton E1 is much better than any of my three Sony 2010s. The 2010
is not without its faults, either. The FET is easily blown out, the
case is cheap plastic and causes Error messages, the antenna
receptacle has worn out on every 2010 I've owned, and the power supply
connections are notorious for going bad.

Are you also suggesting that the Sony SW77 and the Sony 7600G and
7600GR are also cheap plastic junk? They all came after the 2010 and
DX440.

I think I remember you under some other names in the past. You seem to
get your jollies by telling people their radios suck. Whatever. I
think anyone who knows much about radios knows you're wrong.

You have a right to your opinions. It's just that your blanket
condemnations lack credibility.

Mike


MIKE,

The Evolution of the "Cheap Plastic Junk" Anti-Radio-Man :

* Sidwell Friends

* Go Smith Whisper

* Grundig Tecsun Eton Garba-ge !

* IBOC Sucks !

* NSA Reject NSA Reject

* IBOC is a Crock / IBOC Crock
-aka- I B OC'D and Half-Crocked

* Pocket Radio

While he currently 'claims' to be Anti-IBOC; when you Read
most of his Posts here; you will find out for yourself that
he is Anti 'Over-the-Air' Radio and Pro-New-Media.

It Must Be 'Sad' To Be Him* - To Be Filled With Hate
-and- Living A Painful Existance.
* An iPodista [Bio-Unit] Fill With Hate for the Past-Time
of 'common people' for a Hobby that they Enjoy.

glad to be me and enjoying 'free' over-the-air radio ~ RHF


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