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On Jan 22, 1:34�pm, "tom k in L.A." wrote:
On Jan 22, 9:49�am, Rfburns wrote:

Anyone know the current status of the HD radio implementation that has
been forced upon us? �How many receivers were sold during the Xmas
season? �How many new stations have started or terminated
transmitting? �How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc?


jw


no, but i did listen to the new sony hd tabletop radio at the store in
manhattan and it sounded awesome. �it was the 1st time I truly heard a
difference and it was substantial.


"Can Sony Make HD Radio A Winner?"

"So, the old consumers don't want HD. Young consumers think the
concept is laughable. Big retailers can't sell it. And radio companies
won't invest in it. Sounds like a winner to me."

http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...io-winner.html

Is this the Sony that looks like a car battery? LMFAO!
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In article ,
"Pete KE9OA" wrote:

Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking
me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband
internet, and everything
EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician.


Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself?
Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong
stock reply.
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Sun Chaser wrote:
In article ,
"Pete KE9OA" wrote:

Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking
me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband
internet, and everything
EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician.


Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself?
Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong
stock reply.


Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside
influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff.
It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by IBOC,
and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance handed him by, as
you said, an aide, or associate pursuant to political agendae, and
contributorship.

Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like
our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you
G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics
off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have
died in the room.



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On Jan 26, 10:25*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Sun Chaser wrote:
In article ,
*"Pete KE9OA" wrote:


Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking
me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband
internet, and everything
EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician.


Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? *
Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong
stock reply.


* Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside
influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff.

- It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by
- IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance
- handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant
- to political agendae, and contributorship.

DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the
IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. ) ~ RHF


* Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like
our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you
G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics
off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have
died in the room.


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RHF wrote:
On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Sun Chaser wrote:
In article ,
"Pete KE9OA" wrote:
Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking
me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband
internet, and everything
EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician.
Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself?
Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong
stock reply.

Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside
influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff.

- It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by
- IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance
- handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant
- to political agendae, and contributorship.

DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the
IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. ) ~ RHF




Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for
iBiquity.





Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like
our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you
G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics
off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have
died in the room.




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D Peter Maus wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Sun Chaser wrote:
In article ,
"Pete KE9OA" wrote:
Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking
me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband
internet, and everything
EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician.
Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself?
Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong
stock reply.
Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside
influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff.

- It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by
- IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance
- handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant
- to political agendae, and contributorship.

DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the
IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. ) ~ RHF


Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for
iBiquity.


Is 'Eduardo' moonlighting?


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dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

RHF wrote:
On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Sun Chaser wrote:
In article ,
"Pete KE9OA" wrote:
Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking
me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband
internet, and everything
EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician.
Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself?
Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong
stock reply.
Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside
influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff.
- It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by
- IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance
- handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant
- to political agendae, and contributorship.

DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the
IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. ) ~ RHF

Actually, Roy, most likely the source was a lobbyist working for
iBiquity.


Is 'Eduardo' moonlighting?




Careful...mentioning his name is like saying 'Betelgieuse'....three
times and he appears.

But to the point...given what we've seen him post here, and the
inconsistencies in some of his claims, I've wondered if that's not
precisely what he's doing.

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On Jan 27, 5:08*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jan 26, 10:25 am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Sun Chaser wrote:
In article ,
*"Pete KE9OA" wrote:
Interesting thing about IBOC.............I e-mailed Senator Durbin about the
IBOC interference on the MW band. I did receive a reply yesterday, thanking
me for bringing up my concerns. He talked about high prices of broadband
internet, and everything
EXCEPT IBOC. A true politician.
Do you actually think HE read the letter and wrote the reply himself? *
Most likely, some aide or intern got the message and sent the wrong
stock reply.
* Durbin is pretty widely known to be kept isolated from outside
influences, and is led around with the ring in his nose by his staff.

- It's very possible he's not aware of the interference caused by
- IBOC, and has, instead adopted the position of acceptance
- handed him by, as you said, an aide, or associate pursuant
- to political agendae, and contributorship.


DPM - And most likely the "Source" that the Aide used was the
IBOC Talking Points provided by the FCC and NAB. ) ~ RHF


- Actually, Roy, most likely the source
- was a lobbyist working for iBiquity.

GFETE ~ RHF
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http://blackjewel.insanejournal.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley





* Durbin is one of the slimiest of the Illinois politicians, and like
our beloved Governor (nice hair, not much under it-----thank you
G.Gordon Liddy) is prone to say whatever he needs to say to get critics
off his back. And then forget the conversation before the words have
died in the room.- Hide quoted text -


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On Jan 24, 10:49�am, "Frank Dresser"
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"Rfburns" wrote in message

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[good questions snipped]

How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc?


jw


The IBOC noise won't stop until the broadcasters are convinced there is no
worthwhile demand for either "HD/crystal clear" radio or subscription radio.
I think pay radio has more potential than HD radio.

Pay radio schemes don't have to leave the listeners with normal radios
completely in the dark. �NPR is supposed to be considering a plan in which a
free channel and a subscription channel would mostly simulcast during pledge
drives. �But, when the pledge breaks comes up, the subscribers would hear
normal programming and people with normal radios would hear something like
"Pay up, you cheapskates, and you won't have to hear these damn beg-athons
anymore!"

Frank Dresser


Controleed access will require the purchase of new HD radios - that is
part of the scam.
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On Jan 24, 10:49 am, "Frank Dresser"
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"Rfburns" wrote in message

...

[good questions snipped]

How long will it take fior the noise to stop, etc?


jw


The IBOC noise won't stop until the broadcasters are convinced there is no
worthwhile demand for either "HD/crystal clear" radio or subscription radio.
I think pay radio has more potential than HD radio.

Pay radio schemes don't have to leave the listeners with normal radios
completely in the dark. NPR is supposed to be considering a plan in which a
free channel and a subscription channel would mostly simulcast during pledge
drives. But, when the pledge breaks comes up, the subscribers would hear
normal programming and people with normal radios would hear something like
"Pay up, you cheapskates, and you won't have to hear these damn beg-athons
anymore!"

Frank Dresser


Unless HD radios are software ungradable, there willl be a never
ending cycle of having to buy new HD radios - again, part of the scam:

"HD Radio on the Offense"

"But after an investigation of HD Radio units, the stations playing
HD, and the company that owns the technology; and some interviews with
the wonks in DC, it looks like HD Radio is a high-level corporate
scam, a huge carny shill."

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/2007-0...on-the-offense
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