David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia

Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18 years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA, or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.




I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years. They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more,
particularly since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are
based on MSA, or metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get,
if you pay for it, DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever.
And buyers never ask for it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at
all.


I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to reception
of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and sophisticated
technology. Precisely describing and experience with an add-on feature to
a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of the term was
entirely appropriate to my context.


Sorry, but ADI's ceased to be used decades ago, and since population is
dynamic, and no ADI has been redefined, the old definitions are obsolete.
Using an obsolete term for a rapidly changing population base is absurd. Do
you measure weight in stones and volume in cubits?

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and you
chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

I find it indescribably ludicrous that we would agree on anything.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening, you
really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to you.

Not by you, at least.

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years. They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more,
particularly since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are
based on MSA, or metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get,
if you pay for it, DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever.
And buyers never ask for it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at
all.

I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to reception
of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and sophisticated
technology. Precisely describing and experience with an add-on feature to
a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of the term was
entirely appropriate to my context.


Sorry, but ADI's ceased to be used decades ago, and since population is
dynamic, and no ADI has been redefined, the old definitions are obsolete.
Using an obsolete term for a rapidly changing population base is absurd. Do
you measure weight in stones and volume in cubits?


Interesting you should mention that. My Super 7 documentation
includes driver/passenger weight in stone.

So, yes. The point again, being that in an attempt to agree with you,
I was describing a wide area. Not a ratings incremental section.


What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and you
chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

I find it indescribably ludicrous that we would agree on anything.


And yet, we have, and we did. And on more than one occasion.

Your bitterness does not become you. Certainly not someone in your
position. Certainly not someone who deigns to participate in USENet
newsgroups.

Which, I guess, also raises questions.


Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening, you
really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to you.

Not by you, at least.

Or anyone for that matter. Unfortunate. It is the essential
quality of Leadership that it listens BEFORE dismissal.

Even bulletproof warriors like Generals Puller and Patton
understood that listening is a far more important quality than speaking.

For someone in your position, that would seem a no-brainer.

Well....I guess experience has taught us in this case it is.

Have a nice day, David. Your vitriol does not become you. But it
does serve as an object lesson to the general tenor of Radio to it's
biggest fans.

And you wonder why we are less impressed with broadcasting as we
once were.

I'd say your bosses have a refund coming.

On Feb 8, 7:02*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ...





David Eduardo wrote:

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years. They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more,
particularly since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are
based on MSA, or metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get,
if you pay for it, DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever.
And buyers never ask for it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at
all.

* I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to reception
of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and sophisticated
technology. Precisely describing and experience with an add-on feature to
a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of the term was
entirely appropriate to my context.

Sorry, but ADI's ceased to be used decades ago, and since population is
dynamic, and no ADI has been redefined, the old definitions are obsolete.
Using an obsolete term for a rapidly changing population base is absurd. Do
you measure weight in stones and volume in cubits?

* What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and you
chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

- I find it indescribably ludicrous that we would agree on anything.

d'Eduardo - While some might 'question' your "Ethnicity".

No one would question the fact that you have a Hard-Head !

at times . . . ) ~ RHF



* Once again, proving my previous points for me.

* For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening, you
really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to you.

Not by you, at least.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia

Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18 years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA,
or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask
for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.




I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

Yeah, earlier in the thread he did the same to me. Apparently he wants
to argue even when you agree with him.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia
Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18 years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA,
or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask
for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.



I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

Yeah, earlier in the thread he did the same to me. Apparently he wants
to argue even when you agree with him.



Of course. It keeps him isolated and above the rest of the group. If
he agreed, he'd have to admit his pedestal isn't as high as he thinks it
is.

As I think of it, he sounds remarkably like someone else we've
encountered over the years.

In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article
,
D Peter Maus wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"David" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

And using technology designed primarly for cell phone reception, the
FM in my Nokia allows some pretty impressive reception, using nothing
more than the earphone cord as an antenna, as far out of town as
Marengo, well outside of Chicago ADI.
There is no Chicago ADI.
Radio

Arbitron...maintains...areas for radio stations; each is called an area
of
dominant influence (ADI). There are 286 ADI's in the United States.
-wikipedia
Nope. Wikidud data.

Arbitron does not use ADIs any more, and has not for about 15 to 18
years.
They use DMAs, same as Nielsen. Nobody uses ADIs any more, particularly
since Arbitron does not do TV surveys. Arbitron reports are based on MSA,
or
metro survey areas, and twice a year you can also get, if you pay for it,
DMA data... it is not released to the trades, ever. And buyers never ask
for
it. The PPM apparently will not use DMA data at all.



I wasn't talking about ratings, Buckwheat. I was referring to
reception of a portable device at distance with simple antenna and
sophistcated techology. Precisely describing and experience with an
add-on feature to a device, as you had attempted to present. The use of
the term was entirely appropriate to my context.

Had we been speaking of ratings, you'd be correct. But we weren't.

What's almost laughable, is that here I was agreeing with you, and
you chose to attempt to micromanage the conversation and start an
argument.

Once again, proving my previous points for me.

For someone who asserts that his official duties include listening,
you really don't seem to be interested in what's actually being said to
you.

Yeah, earlier in the thread he did the same to me. Apparently he wants
to argue even when you agree with him.



Of course. It keeps him isolated and above the rest of the group. If
he agreed, he'd have to admit his pedestal isn't as high as he thinks it
is.

As I think of it, he sounds remarkably like someone else we've
encountered over the years.

Most clueless people have multiple personalities as if quantity makes up
for quality.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California