"Telamon" wrote in message
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The following two quotes from the link were all I could find in the
article about "chips." Please excuse the quotes within quotes.

"Asked about HD Radio and its traction with consumers, Smulyan said
adoption is going to take time. "There are a billion radios in the
United States today," he said. "We're not going to replace a billion
radios in a week and a half." Mason agreed, saying, "If you look and see
how quickly this curve is coming, it is remarkable." He said the real
discussion will be about HD chips and the distribution channels that
will open up when the chips appear in iPods, cell phones, and other
devices."

"Another questioner asked if there's any industry group working with
consumer electronics manufacturers on getting radio tuners into devices,
and Smulyan responded, "The answer is yes. The HD [Digital Radio]
Alliance is working on it." "

So this adds up to nothing. These are just nebulous statements that are
promises with no specifics of any kind. No names, no dates, no devices
(chips), no products, and the last sentence in the first quote states
that the discussion on new devices (chips) has yet to take place.

All this is, is promotional talk. Smoke and mirrors. It's a dream. It
could amount to something in the future but to date ZERO.

these are all people who have seen the Samsung presentations. "The chip"
means the Samsung chip, which is now in limited developer shipment per
Samsung's statements at the CES.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

The following two quotes from the link were all I could find in the
article about "chips." Please excuse the quotes within quotes.

"Asked about HD Radio and its traction with consumers, Smulyan said
adoption is going to take time. "There are a billion radios in the
United States today," he said. "We're not going to replace a billion
radios in a week and a half." Mason agreed, saying, "If you look and see
how quickly this curve is coming, it is remarkable." He said the real
discussion will be about HD chips and the distribution channels that
will open up when the chips appear in iPods, cell phones, and other
devices."

"Another questioner asked if there's any industry group working with
consumer electronics manufacturers on getting radio tuners into devices,
and Smulyan responded, "The answer is yes. The HD [Digital Radio]
Alliance is working on it." "

So this adds up to nothing. These are just nebulous statements that are
promises with no specifics of any kind. No names, no dates, no devices
(chips), no products, and the last sentence in the first quote states
that the discussion on new devices (chips) has yet to take place.

All this is, is promotional talk. Smoke and mirrors. It's a dream. It
could amount to something in the future but to date ZERO.

these are all people who have seen the Samsung presentations. "The chip"
means the Samsung chip, which is now in limited developer shipment per
Samsung's statements at the CES.

Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.

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craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on
the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

Shareholder data is released directly to shareholders, not by press releases
on the web.

Telamon wrote:

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craigm wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message


...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on
the Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion
here as they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and
FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are
doing. Most companies do not disclose development activities until there
is a competitive reason to do so.

They are a publicly traded company and need to let their stockholders
know what they are working on. Check the news here

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/index.html



Really? Public companies actually tell their stockholder the details of
their development plans?

Not in any company I've worked for. If what you propose were true, what
would the value of a confidentiality agreement be?

"craigm" wrote in message
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Telamon wrote:

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.


Likely there is a point in development, like just prior to shipping, when a
development becomes public. Since the HD chip is only shipping in
development quantities to radio manufacturers, the formal announcement may
not have been made... but that is just a guess.

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"craigm" wrote in message
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Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

..
.
Someone made a mistake. All the references to a radio on a chip on the
Samsung site were analog. Looks like there is some confusion here as
they do have chips for satellite and HD but not AMBCB and FMBCB.


Your mistake is depending on a website for data only of interest to
manufacturers, iBiquity and its shareholders. The chip is, obviously,
digital as HD is digital.

Your mistake is that they announce any semiconductor development on
their web site. They may limit the amount of data for proprietary
reasons but all projects are announced with some detail.



Telemon,
Why would a semiconductor company announce all their development projects
on
the internet? This would tell all their competitors what they are doing.
Most companies do not disclose development activities until there is a
competitive reason to do so.


Likely there is a point in development, like just prior to shipping, when a
development becomes public. Since the HD chip is only shipping in
development quantities to radio manufacturers, the formal announcement may
not have been made... but that is just a guess.

Baloney. Sales is chomping at the bit to release the news to build
demand well in advance of actual production. It's the same anywhere for
any manufacturer. Blow your smoke someplace else.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California