In article ,
msg wrote:

msg wrote:

From www.davidgleason.com:

I was born after the Second World War in Cleveland,

Ohio as David Frackelton Gleason. My second given name, Eduardo,
was bestowed upon my baptism.

Now, only by searching church records could one contest or verify
this assertion; considering that there seems to be no accessible
evidence to the contrary, why do folks continue to question the
validity of this name?

Perhaps David could comment: was this moniker bestowed as 'Eduardo'
or 'Edward' or 'Edouard' or some other version of the name?

I should have check the archives of this N.G.; from a post by 'David
Eduardo' in Feb. 2007:

My mother selected the name, and the godparents "gave it" at the
ceremony... as in "they gave the response" That's the way it is
done. The priest asks the godparents, "and what name have you
selected..." and the godparents respond. The person who decided on
the name can be the parents, or the whole family, I suppose. In my
case, it was my mother... who used a name she liked from when she
lived in Europe whjich was, as required, also the name of a saint.

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.

Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

snip

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.


Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.

I am just getting very disillusioned with the state of some Usenet
N.G.s that used to be informative and technically useful and have
become the arenas for bad behavior.

Suggestions to "ignore posts or threads" from certain originators
doesn't improve the S/N ratio, or make navigating any easier. The
ongoing noise level also dissuades new participants and repels
veterans.

There has been some recent discussion about reforming the charter
or at least the FAQ for this N.G.; I would like to see a clear
code of conduct as an amendment.

Look to comp.arch.embedded for a well behaved unmoderated N.G. with
truly outstanding participants and a lot of useful content.

Michael

In article ,
msg wrote:

Telamon wrote:

snip

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.


Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.

I am just getting very disillusioned with the state of some Usenet
N.G.s that used to be informative and technically useful and have
become the arenas for bad behavior.

Suggestions to "ignore posts or threads" from certain originators
doesn't improve the S/N ratio, or make navigating any easier. The
ongoing noise level also dissuades new participants and repels
veterans.

There has been some recent discussion about reforming the charter
or at least the FAQ for this N.G.; I would like to see a clear
code of conduct as an amendment.

Look to comp.arch.embedded for a well behaved unmoderated N.G. with
truly outstanding participants and a lot of useful content.

I don't know what it will take to clean this news group up. Some people
that use the news group invite this kind of crap. This news group has
seen better days.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
msg wrote:

Telamon wrote:

snip

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.

Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.
I am just getting very disillusioned with the state of some Usenet
N.G.s that used to be informative and technically useful and have
become the arenas for bad behavior.

Suggestions to "ignore posts or threads" from certain originators
doesn't improve the S/N ratio, or make navigating any easier. The
ongoing noise level also dissuades new participants and repels
veterans.

There has been some recent discussion about reforming the charter
or at least the FAQ for this N.G.; I would like to see a clear
code of conduct as an amendment.

Look to comp.arch.embedded for a well behaved unmoderated N.G. with
truly outstanding participants and a lot of useful content.

I don't know what it will take to clean this news group up. Some people
that use the news group invite this kind of crap. This news group has
seen better days.


No damn sunspots, no damn shortwave.

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
msg wrote:

Telamon wrote:

snip

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.

Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.
I am just getting very disillusioned with the state of some Usenet
N.G.s that used to be informative and technically useful and have
become the arenas for bad behavior.

Suggestions to "ignore posts or threads" from certain originators
doesn't improve the S/N ratio, or make navigating any easier. The
ongoing noise level also dissuades new participants and repels
veterans.

There has been some recent discussion about reforming the charter
or at least the FAQ for this N.G.; I would like to see a clear
code of conduct as an amendment.

Look to comp.arch.embedded for a well behaved unmoderated N.G. with
truly outstanding participants and a lot of useful content.

I don't know what it will take to clean this news group up. Some people
that use the news group invite this kind of crap. This news group has
seen better days.


No damn sunspots, no damn shortwave.

Plenty to listen to from late afternoon to early mornings.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
msg wrote:

Telamon wrote:

snip

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.

Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.
I am just getting very disillusioned with the state of some Usenet
N.G.s that used to be informative and technically useful and have
become the arenas for bad behavior.

Suggestions to "ignore posts or threads" from certain originators
doesn't improve the S/N ratio, or make navigating any easier. The
ongoing noise level also dissuades new participants and repels
veterans.

There has been some recent discussion about reforming the charter
or at least the FAQ for this N.G.; I would like to see a clear
code of conduct as an amendment.

Look to comp.arch.embedded for a well behaved unmoderated N.G. with
truly outstanding participants and a lot of useful content.

I don't know what it will take to clean this news group up. Some people
that use the news group invite this kind of crap. This news group has
seen better days.


No damn sunspots, no damn shortwave.

Plenty to listen to from late afternoon to early mornings.

And when nothing is going on, and ya already got the QSL's, one can always get
on the monkey boy 'Eduardo' and urge him to provide that documentation!

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
msg wrote:

Telamon wrote:

snip

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.

Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.
I am just getting very disillusioned with the state of some Usenet
N.G.s that used to be informative and technically useful and have
become the arenas for bad behavior.

Suggestions to "ignore posts or threads" from certain originators
doesn't improve the S/N ratio, or make navigating any easier. The
ongoing noise level also dissuades new participants and repels
veterans.

There has been some recent discussion about reforming the charter
or at least the FAQ for this N.G.; I would like to see a clear
code of conduct as an amendment.

Look to comp.arch.embedded for a well behaved unmoderated N.G. with
truly outstanding participants and a lot of useful content.

I don't know what it will take to clean this news group up. Some people
that use the news group invite this kind of crap. This news group has
seen better days.


No damn sunspots, no damn shortwave.

Plenty to listen to from late afternoon to early mornings.

And when nothing is going on, and ya already got the QSL's, one can always get
on the monkey boy 'Eduardo' and urge him to provide that documentation!

He is to busy eating crow to do that.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAcehole, pathological liar and common drunk, during his fifth annual
farewell tour, said:

And when nothing is going on, and ya already got the QSL's, one can
always get on the monkey boy 'Eduardo' and urge him to provide that
documentation!


================================
From: - Sat Feb 16 00:52:22 2008

I really don't want to say this, my many shortwave friends, but
I find that I am giving up far to much of my increasingly valuable
time here on RRS trying to educate the faux, the debutantes, and
those who tote..

Therefore, I've simply decided to give up RRS.

Goodbye, I sincerely hope that you all find your niche in the
world of SW.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

========================================

On Feb 23, 7:50*pm, msg wrote:
Telamon wrote:

snip

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? *There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.

Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up seeing as it has
died down. Maybe you are just bored? Troll someplace else.

- I am just getting very disillusioned with the state of some
- Usenet N.G.s that used to be informative and technically
- useful and have become the arenas for bad behavior.
-
- Suggestions to "ignore posts or threads" from certain
- originators doesn't improve the S/N ratio, or make navigating
- any easier. The ongoing noise level also dissuades new
- participants and repels veterans.
-
- There has been some recent discussion about reforming
- the charter or at least the FAQ for this N.G.; I would like
- to see a clear code of conduct as an amendment.
-
- Look to comp.arch.embedded for a well behaved unmoderated
- N.G. with truly outstanding participants and a lot of useful
content.
-
- Michael
-

MSG,

Nice Idea but . . .

Does No Good without a Core Group of Active Moderators
and an old-time UseNet Group like Rec.Radio.Shortwave is
not set-up to Moderate across all the possible entry-points
into it.

Requires a new forum that has a single entry-point and
is by-design a Moderated Group.

* Google Groups - http://groups.google.com/

* Yahoo! Groups - http://groups.yahoo.com/

+ plus their are many others . . .

Are two such Moderated Group Forums. ~ RHF

=PS= Telamon is ready to call everyone a "Troll" -but-
in-fact Telamon is himself a "Trill" in the continued Game
of Newsgroup "Ping-Pong" with and about d'Eduardo.
[ Ping-Pong ~ Trill-Troll ]

da trill of it all - pong ! ~ RHF

On Feb 23, 7:06*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





*msg wrote:
msg wrote:

*Fromwww.davidgleason.com:

I was born after the Second World War in Cleveland,

* Ohio as David Frackelton Gleason. My second given name, Eduardo,
* was bestowed upon my baptism.

Now, only by searching church records could one contest or verify
this assertion; considering that there seems to be no accessible
evidence to the contrary, why do folks continue to question the
validity of this name?

Perhaps David could comment: was this moniker bestowed as 'Eduardo'
or 'Edward' or 'Edouard' or some other version of the name?

I should have check the archives of this N.G.; from a post by 'David
Eduardo' in Feb. 2007:

My mother selected the name, and the godparents "gave it" at the
ceremony... as in "they gave the response" That's the way it is
done. The priest asks the godparents, "and what name have you
selected..." and the godparents respond. The person who decided on
the name can be the parents, or the whole family, I suppose. In my
case, it was my mother... who used a name she liked from when she
lived in Europe whjich was, as required, also the name of a saint.

So why does this name-calling persist? Are the participants invested
in some Lemon-Mathau "Grumpy Old Men" style of rivalry? *There are
never any emoticons or cues to the intensity of remarks so one can
only conclude that they are either done in animosity or in
poorly-constructed mock indignation, left up to the reader to deduce.

- Well Michael you picked an odd time to bring this up
- seeing as it has died down. Maybe you are just bored?
- Troll someplace else.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
-

Making You Telamon a "Trill" in the continued Game
of Newsgroup "Ping-Pong" with and about d'Eduardo.

~ RHF