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Telamon March 23rd 08 02:58 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On 22 Mrz., 22:00, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Radio is not in a pickle. It is simply, like light bulbs, a mature, slow
growth business now. And will be for many years to come. Of course, the
company I am with increased its revenue 13% in Q4 of 2007, so I am in a
high
growth, pickle-less sector of radio.


Really? Then where does all of this desperation come from?


What desperation? On our end of the field, with a 13% Q4 sales increase,
there is elation, not desperation.


Elation about desperation? Would that be desperation inflation? I can
see we are in big trouble now.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 03:00 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Yeah, but what is the point of generating this Web page and Usenet
fabrication? What does he have to gain by doing this? There has to be a
payoff somewhere.


There is no fabrication. dxAss claims to have proven lies, and all he can
come up with is questioning if I went to Mexico in March or April of
1963...
as I said, no fabrication.

The only payoff is the amusement of seeing how far this could go.


Are you amused that you have pulled the wool over people eyes because
they are your lessors? You are such a smart wolf and the rest of us are
such stupid sheep that we believe whatever you post. You have proved to
be our superior because we believed your lies. Have I got that right?


No, the amusement is in seeing how a racist like dxAss can convince all of
you that truth is suddenly a lie, despite his total failure to prove such a
contention. This is akin to his rabid and senseless hatred for Canadians,
and his hatred for Hispanics and so on.



RHF March 23rd 08 05:28 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 22, 2:22*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...

In the broadcast industry, where programming and content creation is more
of
an art than a learned science, the education level of a job applicant is
seldom reviewed. Only in positions like accounting would some academic
credentials or certifications be required. What is looked at is career
achievements. What is not looked at is whether someone graduated from
high
school.


Maybe this is part of the problem with radio as an industry. It's
people aren't reasonably well-educated. It's probably time for it to
raise its standards and as it recruits sharper, more educated people
perhaps some of its problems can be solved.


- Many of the best people in radio are not big on formal
- education, but you find them to be excellent autodidacts.

Autodidacticism / Autodidactism / Autodidact / Automath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodidacticism
Self-Education / Self-Directed Learning / Self-Taught Person

d'Eduardo - That goes for many "Creative" Endeavors based
on the the Individual's Sense {Feeling} of Sefl-Expression
and Awareness.

- The people I find fault with in the industry are those who
- have learned, generally in school, a rigid mindset and are
- encumbered by rules on what works and does not work.

d'Eduardo - So why then are you so devoted to your Sacred
Arbitron Numbers . . . ~ RHF

- Since radio broadcasting is not a field where there is
- much to be learned in college, intelligence and work
- experience is often better than specific training.

Applied Intelligence -coupled- with Work Experience
is about as "Specific a Training Regiment as One Gets.

Radio may be a Field where Hands-On Experienc gives
one a "Feel" for the Industry that Book-Learning can not
by itself Provide.

m II March 23rd 08 05:37 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
dxAcehole, AKA Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander,
United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA

during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


And, if you don't belive that I make the calls, ask Mr. Bryant! He'll
'verie' that I indeed make the calls.




I remember it well. You called his past and present employers and
pretended to be from homeland security in order to get him fired. You
are a lying prick with a severe alcohol abuse problem.




================================
From: - Sat Feb 16 00:52:22 2008

I really don't want to say this, my many shortwave friends, but
I find that I am giving up far to much of my increasingly valuable
time here on RRS trying to educate the faux, the debutantes, and
those who tote..

Therefore, I've simply decided to give up RRS.

Goodbye, I sincerely hope that you all find your niche in the
world of SW.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

========================================


RHF March 23rd 08 05:52 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 22, 7:55*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...







David Eduardo wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


You know damn well who I called, oh fraudulent one!


Stop your little pretending game.


No, I do not know and you don't either since you will not give any names.
There is no "Mr Bryant" that I know, so that one is a dud. Obviously,
when
this round is over, we will see that the liar all along is you.


Nope, it's you, 'Eduardo'!


- Who is Mr. Bryant

d'Eduardo,

That would be "Michael W. Bryant" who formerly was
a frequent Poster here on the Rec.Radio.Shortwave
Newgroup.

http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...xjWieafy0lWMO7

http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...O7 &scoring=d

~ RHF

David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 06:10 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

Right, and that's another lie. You infer from data you supposedly use
professionally to dictate what signal levels I get, which according to
you are so weak nobody will listen to them but the truth is otherwise.
Since you fabricate the whole thing what does it matter, right?


We have been over this before, but here it is again.

We take indivisual stations, and we use Arbitron's MapMaker(tm) program and
have it plot the diary mentions (mention is the term of the trade for a
single entry indicating listening to a station in a single diary
representing one person) for at work and at home listening. Car listening,
which is the lesser of the three locations, is not identifiable by location
and excluded. This can be done in the Arbitron software down to the ZIP Code
level. We then superimpose over the map a set of contours... let's say 25
mV/m, and then 20, 15., 10, 5, 2.5 and 1 mV/M per FCC data, for the station.

We see within which of the contours there is listening, and between which of
them the listening ceases to be significant. We do this over for every AM in
a market. Then we do it for previous ratings periods, with special attention
to daytime vs. night by season

After we have done this for multiple significant stations in a number of
different stations, we see that in the daytime, anywhere from 90% to 95% of
listening on average occurs inside the 10 mV/m contour of AMs. At night, we
have to realize some stations have very high interference, so we have to
look at the interference free contour of some stations. In addition, AM's
have such low listening, as a class, at night, that very often there is
little data in any contour for a station... but it appears that an even
stronger signal is needed to garner listenership at night than by day.

Since such a project covers many formats in many markets on all kinds of
technical facilities. When the result is so uniformly indicitive of the
statement, "there is essentially no local listening outside the 10 mV/M
contour of any AM that we can conclude that this is a fact for in home and
at work AM listening.

The contours come right out of FCC data, taking into account ground
condutivity, etc. There is no presumption, just FCC data that is the basis
for each station's licenced operation.


Another lie. Plenty of stations have very good signal levels outside the
made up contours you come up with. I gave you a list of stations 11 or
13 long but that does not matter. Your lies or errors trump any
objective evidence.


Yes, but they do not have 10 mV/m signals in the ZIP you gave me, and,
coincidentally, have no listening either.

Your standard for "good signal level" is not the one 99% or more of
listeners use. Quite simply, the statoins you mentioned do not have the
necessary signal level to be listenable based on hundereds of thousands of
diaries over the last 10 years. Listenability requires a set signal
threshold... listening requires both signal strength and desirable
programming. For this reason, many stations over many years over many
markets were analyzed.

Again, those ones outside a certain coverage are are not getting
listening no matter where you go in the US. So there is nearly no
lost listening.


That's right make up more lies to frame the argument.


If the data over 10 years and over 15 sample markets, including peripheral
markets as well, shows that there is essentially no listening outside the 10
mv/m contour today, then there is no lost listening in fringe areas and
there is no lie in this as such listening does not exist.

What sounds perfectly fine to you has been show to be vastly beyond
the signal intensity where normal people with everyday radios will
listen.


See more lies. I look at this as objectively as possible but it makes no
difference to you Mr. Lier.


If you have hundreds of AM stations in many markets in over a decade of
audience ratings in over 40 surveys and you find essentially no listening
outside a particular contour, and all the listening inside it, then you can
say that there is essentially no listening outside the 10 mV/m contour. This
is irrespective if the signal is there at a lesser level, because millions
of listeners have indicated that such a level is not appealing since the
don't listen.

This is sort of like a batter who consistently hits just inside the
outfield, sometimes hits in the middle of the outfield and never hits into
the far outfield. Saying, then, that for all practical purposes, this batter
will essentially never hit a home run is verified by analyzing all his
previous hits; a homer would be a freak occurrence. Similarly, any AM
listening by metro area station outside the 10 is abnormal and statistically
not predictable since usually all the listening happens inside the contour.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 06:11 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

Yeah, and I sponsored his race cars, too.

Well, that's a good thing as he was sounding kind of desperate. Must
have taken him years to get the money out of you.


He was sounding delighted to have found me. Your Spanish needs some work.


I'm joking Eduardo. You get that right?


You are not funny.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 06:21 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"m II" wrote in message
news:N0mFj.120040$w57.94356@edtnps90...
dxAcehole, AKA Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander,
United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA

during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


And, if you don't belive that I make the calls, ask Mr. Bryant! He'll
'verie' that I indeed make the calls.




I remember it well. You called his past and present employers and
pretended to be from homeland security in order to get him fired. You
are a lying prick with a severe alcohol abuse problem.


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone; they are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some time
or another.

When I was programming our talk station in LA, I would periodically acquire
these critters from the audience... disgruntled listeners who disagreed with
a host's opinions or our use of the language or something even less
fathomable. Some would call the station manager, some would even call the
corporate offices or write to the newspapers. I really enjoyed this, since
the complaints to a supposed higher level generally had enough data in them
for one of our host to call the complainer on the air and grill them, which
made for really entertaining radio and put the troll in its place.



RHF March 23rd 08 07:23 AM

(OT) : d'Eduardo - Then It Ain't Science : It's a Number's Game :crunch, Crunch. CRUNCH DA NUMBERS !
 
On Mar 22, 11:10*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


Right, and that's another lie. You infer from data you supposedly use
professionally to dictate what signal levels I get, which according to
you are so weak nobody will listen to them but the truth is otherwise.
Since you fabricate the whole thing what does it matter, right?


We have been over this before, but here it is again.

We take indivisual stations, and we use Arbitron's MapMaker(tm) program and
have it plot the diary mentions (mention is the term of the trade for a
single entry indicating listening to a station in a single diary
representing one person) for at work and at home listening. Car listening,
which is the lesser of the three locations, is not identifiable by location
and excluded. This can be done in the Arbitron software down to the ZIP Code
level. We then superimpose over the map a set of contours... let's say 25
mV/m, and then 20, 15., 10, 5, 2.5 and 1 mV/M per FCC data, for the station.


[email protected] March 23rd 08 12:37 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 23, 2:21*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"m II" wrote in message

news:N0mFj.120040$w57.94356@edtnps90...





dxAcehole, AKA Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander,
United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA


during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


And, if you don't belive that I make the calls, ask Mr. Bryant! He'll
'verie' that I indeed make the calls.


I remember it well. You called his past and present employers and
pretended to be from homeland security in order to get him fired. You
are a lying prick with a severe alcohol abuse problem.


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone; they are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some time
or another.

When I was programming our talk station in LA, I would periodically acquire
these critters from the audience... disgruntled listeners who disagreed with
a host's opinions or our use of the language or something even less
fathomable. Some would call the station manager, some would even call the
corporate offices or write to the newspapers. I really enjoyed this, since
the complaints to a supposed higher level generally had enough data in them
for one of our host to call the complainer on the air and grill them, which
made for really entertaining radio and put the troll in its place.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And if you were lucky, the troll might turn out to be a little kid and
you'd have a date on Friday night.

[email protected] March 23rd 08 12:39 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 23, 12:02*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On 22 Mrz., 23:21, "David Eduardo" wrote:


I studied, on my own, calculus and other areas of math. My interest was
enhanced when I saw what I could do with the knowledge and the excitement
of
building things that I had designed.


If you'd gone on to study additional areas of mathematics, I'm sure
you'd have been even more impressed.


I might have been. However, at the distance and degree of isolation I was
from the US, I had little further opportunity since the areas that
contributed to my livelihood had been covered and I could build and maintain
my installations quite handily.


Well, if you hadn't allowed considerations of distance and isolation
to be decisive and had gone on to learn more about mathematics, you'd
have been very impressed indeed.

dxAce March 23rd 08 12:48 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"m II" wrote in message
news:N0mFj.120040$w57.94356@edtnps90...
dxAcehole, AKA Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander,
United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA

during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


And, if you don't belive that I make the calls, ask Mr. Bryant! He'll
'verie' that I indeed make the calls.




I remember it well. You called his past and present employers and
pretended to be from homeland security in order to get him fired. You
are a lying prick with a severe alcohol abuse problem.


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone; they are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some time
or another.


'HR department'? In your case that must mean Hispanic Retard department.
Probably a very busy place!

Have 'em ring me up.





dxAce March 23rd 08 01:52 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 


David Frackelton Gleason, Univisions retard boy who poses as 'Eduardo' wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

Right, and that's another lie. You infer from data you supposedly use
professionally to dictate what signal levels I get, which according to
you are so weak nobody will listen to them but the truth is otherwise.
Since you fabricate the whole thing what does it matter, right?


We have been over this before, but here it is again.

We take indivisual stations, and we use Arbitron's MapMaker(tm) program and
have it plot the diary mentions (mention is the term of the trade for a
single entry indicating listening to a station in a single diary
representing one person) for at work and at home listening. Car listening,
which is the lesser of the three locations, is not identifiable by location
and excluded. This can be done in the Arbitron software down to the ZIP Code
level. We then superimpose over the map a set of contours... let's say 25
mV/m, and then 20, 15., 10, 5, 2.5 and 1 mV/M per FCC data, for the station.

We see within which of the contours there is listening, and between which of
them the listening ceases to be significant. We do this over for every AM in
a market. Then we do it for previous ratings periods, with special attention
to daytime vs. night by season

After we have done this for multiple significant stations in a number of
different stations, we see that in the daytime, anywhere from 90% to 95% of
listening on average occurs inside the 10 mV/m contour of AMs. At night, we
have to realize some stations have very high interference, so we have to
look at the interference free contour of some stations. In addition, AM's
have such low listening, as a class, at night, that very often there is
little data in any contour for a station... but it appears that an even
stronger signal is needed to garner listenership at night than by day.

Since such a project covers many formats in many markets on all kinds of
technical facilities. When the result is so uniformly indicitive of the
statement, "there is essentially no local listening outside the 10 mV/M
contour of any AM that we can conclude that this is a fact for in home and
at work AM listening.

The contours come right out of FCC data, taking into account ground
condutivity, etc. There is no presumption, just FCC data that is the basis
for each station's licenced operation.


Another lie. Plenty of stations have very good signal levels outside the
made up contours you come up with. I gave you a list of stations 11 or
13 long but that does not matter. Your lies or errors trump any
objective evidence.


Yes, but they do not have 10 mV/m signals in the ZIP you gave me, and,
coincidentally, have no listening either.

Your standard for "good signal level" is not the one 99% or more of
listeners use. Quite simply, the statoins you mentioned do not have the
necessary signal level to be listenable based on hundereds of thousands of
diaries over the last 10 years. Listenability requires a set signal
threshold... listening requires both signal strength and desirable
programming. For this reason, many stations over many years over many
markets were analyzed.

Again, those ones outside a certain coverage are are not getting
listening no matter where you go in the US. So there is nearly no
lost listening.


That's right make up more lies to frame the argument.


If the data over 10 years and over 15 sample markets, including peripheral
markets as well, shows that there is essentially no listening outside the 10
mv/m contour today, then there is no lost listening in fringe areas and
there is no lie in this as such listening does not exist.

What sounds perfectly fine to you has been show to be vastly beyond
the signal intensity where normal people with everyday radios will
listen.


See more lies. I look at this as objectively as possible but it makes no
difference to you Mr. Lier.


If you have hundreds of AM stations in many markets in over a decade of
audience ratings in over 40 surveys and you find essentially no listening
outside a particular contour, and all the listening inside it, then you can
say that there is essentially no listening outside the 10 mV/m contour. This
is irrespective if the signal is there at a lesser level, because millions
of listeners have indicated that such a level is not appealing since the
don't listen.

This is sort of like a batter who consistently hits just inside the
outfield, sometimes hits in the middle of the outfield and never hits into
the far outfield. Saying, then, that for all practical purposes, this batter
will essentially never hit a home run is verified by analyzing all his
previous hits; a homer would be a freak occurrence. Similarly, any AM
listening by metro area station outside the 10 is abnormal and statistically
not predictable since usually all the listening happens inside the contour.


All your talk comes from within the contours of your ass.



Billy Burpelson[_2_] March 23rd 08 03:41 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
David Eduardo wrote:

No, the amusement is in seeing how a racist like dxAss can convince all of
you that truth is suddenly a lie,


What's the problem? It even works both ways. W/Cheney/Powell convinced
us that lies were the truth...

....unfortunately, there was no 'amusement' in that.

Billy Burpelson[_2_] March 23rd 08 03:41 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
wrote:


There is no reason to be bored in HS, period.


Well, that's a pretty broad and indefensible statement, isn't it? There
could be many reasons you are bored in HS; just a few that come to mind a

a) poor teacher(s)
b) an average student in a class full of dummies or hooligans
c) a particularly bright student in a class full of average students

So, there are three of many reasons why someone -could- be bored in HS,
period.

dxAce March 23rd 08 04:50 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Yeah, but what is the point of generating this Web page and Usenet
fabrication? What does he have to gain by doing this? There has to be a
payoff somewhere.


There is no fabrication. dxAss claims to have proven lies, and all he can
come up with is questioning if I went to Mexico in March or April of 1963...
as I said, no fabrication.


Didn't you 'claim' to have 'moved' to Mexico at the age of 13? That woould be
1959 or 1960.

You are a liar and fabricator of the highest degree, oh faux one!



D Peter Maus March 23rd 08 04:51 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
dxAce wrote:

David Frackelton Gleason, Univisions retard boy who poses as 'Eduardo' wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

Right, and that's another lie. You infer from data you supposedly use
professionally to dictate what signal levels I get, which according to
you are so weak nobody will listen to them but the truth is otherwise.
Since you fabricate the whole thing what does it matter, right?

We have been over this before, but here it is again.

We take indivisual stations, and we use Arbitron's MapMaker(tm) program and
have it plot the diary mentions (mention is the term of the trade for a
single entry indicating listening to a station in a single diary
representing one person) for at work and at home listening. Car listening,
which is the lesser of the three locations, is not identifiable by location
and excluded. This can be done in the Arbitron software down to the ZIP Code
level. We then superimpose over the map a set of contours... let's say 25
mV/m, and then 20, 15., 10, 5, 2.5 and 1 mV/M per FCC data, for the station.

We see within which of the contours there is listening, and between which of
them the listening ceases to be significant. We do this over for every AM in
a market. Then we do it for previous ratings periods, with special attention
to daytime vs. night by season

After we have done this for multiple significant stations in a number of
different stations, we see that in the daytime, anywhere from 90% to 95% of
listening on average occurs inside the 10 mV/m contour of AMs. At night, we
have to realize some stations have very high interference, so we have to
look at the interference free contour of some stations. In addition, AM's
have such low listening, as a class, at night, that very often there is
little data in any contour for a station... but it appears that an even
stronger signal is needed to garner listenership at night than by day.

Since such a project covers many formats in many markets on all kinds of
technical facilities. When the result is so uniformly indicitive of the
statement, "there is essentially no local listening outside the 10 mV/M
contour of any AM that we can conclude that this is a fact for in home and
at work AM listening.

The contours come right out of FCC data, taking into account ground
condutivity, etc. There is no presumption, just FCC data that is the basis
for each station's licenced operation.

Another lie. Plenty of stations have very good signal levels outside the
made up contours you come up with. I gave you a list of stations 11 or
13 long but that does not matter. Your lies or errors trump any
objective evidence.

Yes, but they do not have 10 mV/m signals in the ZIP you gave me, and,
coincidentally, have no listening either.

Your standard for "good signal level" is not the one 99% or more of
listeners use. Quite simply, the statoins you mentioned do not have the
necessary signal level to be listenable based on hundereds of thousands of
diaries over the last 10 years. Listenability requires a set signal
threshold... listening requires both signal strength and desirable
programming. For this reason, many stations over many years over many
markets were analyzed.
Again, those ones outside a certain coverage are are not getting
listening no matter where you go in the US. So there is nearly no
lost listening.
That's right make up more lies to frame the argument.

If the data over 10 years and over 15 sample markets, including peripheral
markets as well, shows that there is essentially no listening outside the 10
mv/m contour today, then there is no lost listening in fringe areas and
there is no lie in this as such listening does not exist.
What sounds perfectly fine to you has been show to be vastly beyond
the signal intensity where normal people with everyday radios will
listen.
See more lies. I look at this as objectively as possible but it makes no
difference to you Mr. Lier.

If you have hundreds of AM stations in many markets in over a decade of
audience ratings in over 40 surveys and you find essentially no listening
outside a particular contour, and all the listening inside it, then you can
say that there is essentially no listening outside the 10 mV/m contour. This
is irrespective if the signal is there at a lesser level, because millions
of listeners have indicated that such a level is not appealing since the
don't listen.

This is sort of like a batter who consistently hits just inside the
outfield, sometimes hits in the middle of the outfield and never hits into
the far outfield. Saying, then, that for all practical purposes, this batter
will essentially never hit a home run is verified by analyzing all his
previous hits; a homer would be a freak occurrence. Similarly, any AM
listening by metro area station outside the 10 is abnormal and statistically
not predictable since usually all the listening happens inside the contour.


All your talk comes from within the contours of your ass.




And he wonders why DXers don't like him.

Broadcasters fired the first shot, in dismissing DXers.

Even demonstrating this thinking in a previous post by saying:


Interest in DX reports waned as the importance of
non-local coverage waned, while at the same time most non-Metro stations
used outside contract engineers who were not paid to answer reception
reports. Today, nearly nobody at a station will know what DX even is.


Again, DXers are fans. Fans don't turn on you. You have to run them off.

Broadcasters fired the first shot, here.

And the repeating of the corporate line, as clinical number above,
only reinforces this.

I don't believe he's so stupid as to not see this. But I do believe
he's so invested in his position that he can't acknowledge it.

Which only underscores the accusation made some months ago that he's
a shill.





m II March 23rd 08 05:11 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
wrote:

If you'd gone on to study additional areas of mathematics, I'm sure
you'd have been even more impressed.




So, Ron..do you prefer the Tampa area internet providers or the German
ones?



mike

dxAce March 23rd 08 05:17 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 


mommy was a dumbass II wrote:

wrote:

If you'd gone on to study additional areas of mathematics, I'm sure
you'd have been even more impressed.


So, Ron..do you prefer the Tampa area internet providers or the German
ones?


Either would certainly be preferable to those in CanaDuh.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 05:36 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I
have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone; they
are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some
time
or another.


'HR department'? In your case that must mean Hispanic Retard department.
Probably a very busy place!


Another racist comment from dxAss about people he does not know. Of course
our HR department deals mostly with Hispanics... we are a large company
serving the Hispanic population of the US... but you demean the company and
its constituency just because you hate, as often shown, Hispanics.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 05:38 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Yeah, but what is the point of generating this Web page and Usenet
fabrication? What does he have to gain by doing this? There has to be a
payoff somewhere.


There is no fabrication. dxAss claims to have proven lies, and all he can
come up with is questioning if I went to Mexico in March or April of
1963...
as I said, no fabrication.


Didn't you 'claim' to have 'moved' to Mexico at the age of 13? That woould
be
1959 or 1960.


Go look at my resume. I went to Mexico in 1963.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 05:40 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


mommy was a dumbass II wrote:

wrote:

If you'd gone on to study additional areas of mathematics, I'm sure
you'd have been even more impressed.


So, Ron..do you prefer the Tampa area internet providers or the German
ones?


Either would certainly be preferable to those in CanaDuh.


Gee, in just a single hour you have offended Canadians, Hispanics and the US
government. Hangover?



dxAce March 23rd 08 05:41 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I
have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone; they
are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some
time
or another.


'HR department'? In your case that must mean Hispanic Retard department.
Probably a very busy place!


Another racist comment from dxAss about people he does not know.


Racist? Everyone but you knows that 'Hispanic' is not a 'race', retard boy!

Shanti Om!



dxAce March 23rd 08 05:42 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Yeah, but what is the point of generating this Web page and Usenet
fabrication? What does he have to gain by doing this? There has to be a
payoff somewhere.


There is no fabrication. dxAss claims to have proven lies, and all he can
come up with is questioning if I went to Mexico in March or April of
1963...
as I said, no fabrication.


Didn't you 'claim' to have 'moved' to Mexico at the age of 13? That woould
be
1959 or 1960.


Go look at my resume. I went to Mexico in 1963.


Not what you'd earlier claimed, retard boy.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 05:44 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I
have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone;
they
are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some
time
or another.

'HR department'? In your case that must mean Hispanic Retard
department.
Probably a very busy place!


Another racist comment from dxAss about people he does not know.


Racist? Everyone but you knows that 'Hispanic' is not a 'race', retard
boy!


"Race" is defined very broadly in the dictionary to also be a way of
referring to classes rather than races of people. And "racist" covers race
hatred, ethnic hatred and cultural hatred.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 05:45 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Yeah, but what is the point of generating this Web page and Usenet
fabrication? What does he have to gain by doing this? There has to
be a
payoff somewhere.


There is no fabrication. dxAss claims to have proven lies, and all he
can
come up with is questioning if I went to Mexico in March or April of
1963...
as I said, no fabrication.

Didn't you 'claim' to have 'moved' to Mexico at the age of 13? That
woould
be
1959 or 1960.


Go look at my resume. I went to Mexico in 1963.


Not what you'd earlier claimed, retard boy.


You are delusional, then.



[email protected] March 23rd 08 05:45 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 23, 11:41 am, Billy Burpelson wrote:
wrote:
There is no reason to be bored in HS, period.


Well, that's a pretty broad and indefensible statement, isn't it?


Not really.

There
could be many reasons you are bored in HS; just a few that come to mind a

a) poor teacher(s)
b) an average student in a class full of dummies or hooligans
c) a particularly bright student in a class full of average students

So, there are three of many reasons why someone -could- be bored in HS,


There's no shortage of reasons why someone *could* be bored in HS or
anywhere else. The point is that one shouldn't allow oneself to be
bored and if you are bored it's probably your own fault.



[email protected] March 23rd 08 05:46 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 23, 1:11 pm, m II wrote:
wrote:
If you'd gone on to study additional areas of mathematics, I'm sure
you'd have been even more impressed.


So, Ron..do you prefer the Tampa area internet providers or the German
ones?

mike


The best ones are actually in Latvia. I'm not entirely sure what the
trick is, but the Latvians have it down on everyone else.

Drifter March 23rd 08 05:47 PM

for MII- Radio, why Jim Cramer is dead.
 
m II wrote: *********************************************

Happy Keester Mike/ MII.

http://www.bitoffun.com/Notes/Hairass.mp3

little something for your holiday.
this should be right up your alley.

Drifter...

--
"Regulatory capitalism is when companies invest in lawyers, lobbyists,
and politicians, instead of plant, people, and customer service."
- former FCC Chairman William Kennard (A real FCC Chairman,
unlike the current Corporate Spokesperson in the job!)

dxAce March 23rd 08 05:48 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 


David Frackelton Gleason, so damn stupid that he poses as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I
have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone;
they
are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some
time
or another.

'HR department'? In your case that must mean Hispanic Retard
department.
Probably a very busy place!

Another racist comment from dxAss about people he does not know.


Racist? Everyone but you knows that 'Hispanic' is not a 'race', retard
boy!


"Race" is defined very broadly in the dictionary to also be a way of
referring to classes rather than races of people. And "racist" covers race
hatred, ethnic hatred and cultural hatred.


You're talking out of the contours of your ass again, oh retarded one!



dxAce March 23rd 08 05:48 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Yeah, but what is the point of generating this Web page and Usenet
fabrication? What does he have to gain by doing this? There has to
be a
payoff somewhere.


There is no fabrication. dxAss claims to have proven lies, and all he
can
come up with is questioning if I went to Mexico in March or April of
1963...
as I said, no fabrication.

Didn't you 'claim' to have 'moved' to Mexico at the age of 13? That
woould
be
1959 or 1960.

Go look at my resume. I went to Mexico in 1963.


Not what you'd earlier claimed, retard boy.


You are delusional, then.


Once again, you are talking out of the contours of your ass, boy!



RHF March 23rd 08 09:58 PM

(OT) : Who Are The Real Preachers of Hate . . .
 
On Mar 22, 8:00*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
...


Yeah, but what is the point of generating this Web page and Usenet
fabrication? What does he have to gain by doing this? There has to be a
payoff somewhere.


There is no fabrication. dxAss claims to have proven lies, and all he can
come up with is questioning if I went to Mexico in March or April of
1963...
as I said, no fabrication.


The only payoff is the amusement of seeing how far this could go.


Are you amused that you have pulled the wool over people eyes because
they are your lessors? You are such a smart wolf and the rest of us are
such stupid sheep that we believe whatever you post. You have proved to
be our superior because we believed your lies. Have I got that right?


- No, the amusement is in seeing how a racist like dxAss
- can convince all of you that truth is suddenly a lie, despite
- his total failure to prove such a contention.
-
- This is akin to his rabid and senseless hatred for Canadians,
- and his hatred for Hispanics and so on.
-

(OT) : Who Are The Real Preachers of Hate . . .
{ Rec.Radio.Shortwave ONLY }

d'Eduardo,

DX Ace a Hater of Canada ? - More like DX Ace Clowning
the Canadians : Who's only purpose for Posting here seams
to be 'dissin' the USA and Preaching Hate for Americans.

-wrt- Hating Mexicans : It has been Mike [M II] {A Canadian}
that has been posting the DX Ace has been out Shooting at
Mexicans. Don't recall DX Ace ever say that he Enjoys
Shooting Mexicans.

-iirc- DX Ace Clowns "You" for using the name "Eduardo" for
what he considers a False Claim to being a Hispanic {I Don't}.

-but- I don't recall DX Ace preaching an Hate toward Mexicans
and Hispanics : At the Same Level of Hate that many of the
Canadian Posters her Preach HATE Toward the USA and
Americans.

and that's the way i see {read} it ~ RHF

Telamon March 23rd 08 10:02 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"m II" wrote in message
news:N0mFj.120040$w57.94356@edtnps90...
dxAcehole, AKA Steve Lare, pathological liar, racist and common drunk,
SUPCOMUCOMM (Supreme Commander,
United Counties of Michigan Militia)
Michigan
USA

during his fifth annual Farewell Forever tour, said:


And, if you don't belive that I make the calls, ask Mr. Bryant! He'll
'verie' that I indeed make the calls.




I remember it well. You called his past and present employers and
pretended to be from homeland security in order to get him fired. You
are a lying prick with a severe alcohol abuse problem.


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone; they are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some time
or another.

When I was programming our talk station in LA, I would periodically acquire
these critters from the audience... disgruntled listeners who disagreed with
a host's opinions or our use of the language or something even less
fathomable. Some would call the station manager, some would even call the
corporate offices or write to the newspapers. I really enjoyed this, since
the complaints to a supposed higher level generally had enough data in them
for one of our host to call the complainer on the air and grill them, which
made for really entertaining radio and put the troll in its place.


Isn't that wonderful you used the bully power of your media outlet to
kill off dissenting opinion. You must be proud.

You pit your whole organization against one guy in order to collect
intelligence and then had someone else pummel the guy. How brave.

You really are a scum-bag.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 23rd 08 10:06 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


That is good to know. I will immediately tell our HR department that I
have
acquired a troll, and give them Steve's name and address and phone;
they
are
used to such occurrences as most of our talent acquires trolls at some
time
or another.

'HR department'? In your case that must mean Hispanic Retard
department.
Probably a very busy place!

Another racist comment from dxAss about people he does not know.


Racist? Everyone but you knows that 'Hispanic' is not a 'race', retard
boy!


"Race" is defined very broadly in the dictionary to also be a way of
referring to classes rather than races of people. And "racist" covers race
hatred, ethnic hatred and cultural hatred.


How many posts have you posted "Hispanic is not a race but a culture"
Answer dozens of times? What a lamer.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 10:34 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

When I was programming our talk station in LA, I would periodically
acquire
these critters from the audience... disgruntled listeners who disagreed
with
a host's opinions or our use of the language or something even less
fathomable. Some would call the station manager, some would even call the
corporate offices or write to the newspapers. I really enjoyed this,
since
the complaints to a supposed higher level generally had enough data in
them
for one of our host to call the complainer on the air and grill them,
which
made for really entertaining radio and put the troll in its place.


Isn't that wonderful you used the bully power of your media outlet to
kill off dissenting opinion. You must be proud.


These trolls were not ordinary complainers... thery were nut cases of the
first water and there was considerable entertainment value in their
behaviour. In addtion to complaining, they were rude or obscene or
personally offensive to myself and my staff.

One was a character who thought himself the protector of the Spanish
language, and who objected to the use of the term "troca" for "pickup truck"
instead of the traditional "camioneta" which nobody uses on the street. The
guy would write 7 and 8 page letters about language, failing to see that
word usage is dynamic.

We ambushed him by having two university professors who explained how
language changes. It made for informative radio, with the entertainment
value of a nutcase who wanted to roll language usage back 100 years.

You pit your whole organization against one guy in order to collect
intelligence and then had someone else pummel the guy. How brave.


That is entirely what talk radio is about... it's a sport, not an
intellectual excercise. The whole idea is to do the same thing as the WWF
does: provide an entertainment. Ask any major market talk programmer... or
any well rated host, from Limbaugh to Hannity.

You really are a scum-bag.


You really don't get the fact that talk radio is entertainment, not news.



David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 10:39 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

"Race" is defined very broadly in the dictionary to also be a way of
referring to classes rather than races of people. And "racist" covers
race
hatred, ethnic hatred and cultural hatred.


How many posts have you posted "Hispanic is not a race but a culture"
Answer dozens of times? What a lamer.


The term "racist" defines more than just "race" based hatred.

Oxford American Dictionary
racism

n noun

1 the belief that each race or ethnic group possesses specific
characteristics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish it as inferior or
superior to another such group.

2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races or ethnic groups
based on such a belief.

Similarly, "Hispanic" is not a race because an Hispanic can be of any
race... Black, Indigenous, White, Asian and any mix of the four races.
Hispanic is ALL races.



Telamon March 23rd 08 10:46 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

When I was programming our talk station in LA, I would
periodically acquire these critters from the audience...
disgruntled listeners who disagreed with a host's opinions or our
use of the language or something even less fathomable. Some would
call the station manager, some would even call the corporate
offices or write to the newspapers. I really enjoyed this, since
the complaints to a supposed higher level generally had enough
data in them for one of our host to call the complainer on the air
and grill them, which made for really entertaining radio and put
the troll in its place.


Isn't that wonderful you used the bully power of your media outlet
to kill off dissenting opinion. You must be proud.


These trolls were not ordinary complainers... thery were nut cases of
the first water and there was considerable entertainment value in
their behaviour. In addtion to complaining, they were rude or obscene
or personally offensive to myself and my staff.

One was a character who thought himself the protector of the Spanish
language, and who objected to the use of the term "troca" for "pickup
truck" instead of the traditional "camioneta" which nobody uses on
the street. The guy would write 7 and 8 page letters about language,
failing to see that word usage is dynamic.

We ambushed him by having two university professors who explained how
language changes. It made for informative radio, with the
entertainment value of a nutcase who wanted to roll language usage
back 100 years.

You pit your whole organization against one guy in order to collect
intelligence and then had someone else pummel the guy. How brave.


That is entirely what talk radio is about... it's a sport, not an
intellectual excercise. The whole idea is to do the same thing as the
WWF does: provide an entertainment. Ask any major market talk
programmer... or any well rated host, from Limbaugh to Hannity.

You really are a scum-bag.


You really don't get the fact that talk radio is entertainment, not
news.


Just because it is entertainment does not mean it can't be informative.

I don't know where your rules of engagement come from but pitting a team
of people against one guy is not what I would consider "sporting" or
"fun." That is just a setup.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 23rd 08 10:50 PM

David Gleason: Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

"Race" is defined very broadly in the dictionary to also be a way of
referring to classes rather than races of people. And "racist" covers
race
hatred, ethnic hatred and cultural hatred.


How many posts have you posted "Hispanic is not a race but a culture"
Answer dozens of times? What a lamer.


The term "racist" defines more than just "race" based hatred.

Oxford American Dictionary
racism

n noun

1 the belief that each race or ethnic group possesses specific
characteristics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish it as inferior or
superior to another such group.

2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races or ethnic groups
based on such a belief.

Similarly, "Hispanic" is not a race because an Hispanic can be of any
race... Black, Indigenous, White, Asian and any mix of the four races.
Hispanic is ALL races.


That does not change the fact you have argued the opposite in many past
posts. This isn't a debate and you are not funny either. You do look
really lame though.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] March 23rd 08 11:46 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

Just because it is entertainment does not mean it can't be informative.


The same show put the brakes on closed door, no-bit purchasing for some LA
City parks and recreation events. You can't be sedrious and "informative"
every day.

On the other hand, baiting the guy who called all the way to the FCC about
us calling pickups "trocas," called our receptionist of 15 years an
illiterate hooker, etc., etc. was definitely fair game.

I don't know where your rules of engagement come from but pitting a team
of people against one guy is not what I would consider "sporting" or
"fun." That is just a setup.


I suppose I have not conveyed what a nasty piece of work the guy was. We got
this sort with some frequency; when they would not listen to a reasoned
explanation, they became sport and the hunting season was always on. We
never turned away a complaint call and always listened up to a point where
the caller swore or engaged in name calling or racist or religious or ethnic
insults, at which point we hung up. Most stations do not do that, by the
way... they send complaints to voice mail.



RHF March 24th 08 05:14 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 23, 5:02*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*"David Eduardo" wrote:





"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


Just because it is entertainment does not mean it can't be informative..


The same show put the brakes on closed door, no-bit purchasing for some LA
City parks and recreation events. You can't be sedrious and "informative"
every day.


On the other hand, baiting the guy who called all the way to the FCC about
us calling pickups "trocas," called our receptionist of 15 years an
illiterate hooker, etc., etc. was definitely fair game.


I don't know where your rules of engagement come from but pitting a team
of people against one guy is not what I would consider "sporting" or
"fun." That is just a setup.


I suppose I have not conveyed what a nasty piece of work the guy was. We got
this sort with some frequency; when they would not listen to a reasoned
explanation, they became sport and the hunting season was always on. We
never turned away a complaint call and always listened up to a point where
the caller swore or engaged in name calling or racist or religious or ethnic
insults, at which point we hung up. Most stations do not do that, by the
way... they send complaints to voice mail.


- Well, you should listen to Sean Hannity sometime.
- He puts them the voice mail on the air with bleeps
- for the expletives of course.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California
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