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Telamon March 24th 08 06:27 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
In article
,
RHF wrote:

On Mar 23, 3:34*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

..
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


When I was programming our talk station in LA, I would
periodically acquire these critters from the audience...
disgruntled listeners who disagreed with a host's opinions or
our use of the language or something even less fathomable. Some
would call the station manager, some would even call the
corporate offices or write to the newspapers. I really enjoyed
this, since the complaints to a supposed higher level generally
had enough data in them for one of our host to call the
complainer on the air and grill them, which made for really
entertaining radio and put the troll in its place.


Isn't that wonderful you used the bully power of your media
outlet to kill off dissenting opinion. You must be proud.


These trolls were not ordinary complainers... thery were nut cases
of the first water and there was considerable entertainment value
in their behaviour. In addtion to complaining, they were rude or
obscene or personally offensive to myself and my staff.

One was a character who thought himself the protector of the
Spanish language, and who objected to the use of the term "troca"
for "pickup truck" instead of the traditional "camioneta" which
nobody uses on the street. The guy would write 7 and 8 page letters
about language, failing to see that word usage is dynamic.



"Troca" ~ Spanglish - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanglish

Spanish & Chicano English
http://www.pbs.org/speak/education/c.../high/spanish/


We ambushed him by having two university professors who explained how
language changes.


- It made for informative radio, with the entertainment value
- of a nutcase who wanted to roll language usage back 100 years.

Sounds like L'Académie Française and their Annual Exorcism
of English Word Usage that creaps into theFrench Language


SNIP

Now you are going to give Eduardo a Spanish lesson? Now that is funny.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF March 24th 08 09:00 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 23, 11:27*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





*RHF wrote:
On Mar 23, 3:34*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message


..
.


In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


When I was programming our talk station in LA, I would
periodically acquire these critters from the audience...
disgruntled listeners who disagreed with a host's opinions or
our use of the language or something even less fathomable. Some
would call the station manager, some would even call the
corporate offices or write to the newspapers. I really enjoyed
this, since the complaints to a supposed higher level generally
had enough data in them for one of our host to call the
complainer on the air and grill them, which made for really
entertaining radio and put the troll in its place.


Isn't that wonderful you used the bully power of your media
outlet to kill off dissenting opinion. You must be proud.


These trolls were not ordinary complainers... thery were nut cases
of the first water and there was considerable entertainment value
in their behaviour. In addtion to complaining, they were rude or
obscene or personally offensive to myself and my staff.


One was a character who thought himself the protector of the
Spanish language, and who objected to the use of the term "troca"
for "pickup truck" instead of the traditional "camioneta" which
nobody uses on the street. The guy would write 7 and 8 page letters
about language, failing to see that word usage is dynamic.


"Troca" ~ Spanglish -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanglish


Spanish & Chicano English
http://www.pbs.org/speak/education/c.../high/spanish/


We ambushed him by having two university professors who explained how
language changes.


- It made for informative radio, with the entertainment value
- of a nutcase who wanted to roll language usage back 100 years.


Sounds like L'Académie Française and their Annual Exorcism
of English Word Usage that creaps into theFrench Language


SNIP

-
- Now you are going to give Eduardo a Spanish lesson?
- Now that is funny.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California -

Teli - Spanglish is my 2undo Landwich. :o) ~ RHF

MnMikew March 24th 08 03:40 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Scooter" wrote in message
.. .
Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising revenues
as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad dollars
for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn't even in
yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the
terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he
would
not
own any of them under any condition right now.

Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/


Cramer is the biggest dumbass in the financial world!


And you are the biggest dumb ass posting to this news group.

Another thought provoking post by our resident troll Telletroll. I bet you
let Cramer pick your stocks for you too.



Telamon March 26th 08 01:04 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Scooter" wrote in message
.. .
Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising revenues
as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad dollars
for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn't even in
yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the
terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he
would
not
own any of them under any condition right now.

Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/

Cramer is the biggest dumbass in the financial world!


And you are the biggest dumb ass posting to this news group.

Another thought provoking post by our resident troll Telletroll. I bet you
let Cramer pick your stocks for you too.


I don't see you posting anything on topic moron.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 26th 08 01:09 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Scooter" wrote in message
.. .
Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising revenues
as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad dollars
for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn't even in
yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the
terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he
would
not
own any of them under any condition right now.

Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/

Cramer is the biggest dumbass in the financial world!


And you are the biggest dumb ass posting to this news group.

Another thought provoking post by our resident troll Telletroll. I bet you
let Cramer pick your stocks for you too.


Oh, yeah, another great on topic post by MNMikew. The wannabe news group
retard.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

MnMikew March 26th 08 01:31 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Scooter" wrote in message
.. .
Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising
revenues
as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad
dollars
for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry
going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined
by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn't even
in
yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the
terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he
would
not
own any of them under any condition right now.

Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/

Cramer is the biggest dumbass in the financial world!

And you are the biggest dumb ass posting to this news group.

Another thought provoking post by our resident troll Telletroll. I bet
you
let Cramer pick your stocks for you too.


Oh, yeah, another great on topic post by MNMikew. The wannabe news group
retard.

Psssst. Look at the thread title, seems on topic to me. But being as dense
as you are I can see your confusion. Time for lil Telletubbie to keep RHF
company in the old killfile.
plonk




[email protected] March 26th 08 06:15 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
Allright now, if y'all keep on with this thread, it's going to wind up
being almost half as long as that Beaver thread was at
www.pipelinenews.org a few years ago.
cuhulin, not a Beaver


Telamon March 27th 08 02:01 AM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..
In article ,
"MNMikew" wrote:

"Scooter" wrote in message
.. .
Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising
revenues as more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In
2007 total ad dollars for radio fell to where they were in
2003. That point to an industry going backwards, not forward,
Cramer said. The average market cap of terrestrial radio
companies has declined by a staggering 80% over the last five
years. But the bottom isn't even in yet, as far as Cramer can
tell Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer
expects the terrestrial radio companies to go down harder
than almost anything else and he would not own any of them
under any condition right now.

Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/

Cramer is the biggest dumbass in the financial world!

And you are the biggest dumb ass posting to this news group.

Another thought provoking post by our resident troll Telletroll. I
bet you let Cramer pick your stocks for you too.


Oh, yeah, another great on topic post by MNMikew. The wannabe news
group retard.

Psssst. Look at the thread title, seems on topic to me. But being as
dense as you are I can see your confusion. Time for lil Telletubbie
to keep RHF company in the old killfile. plonk


Here is a clue for 14 year old poster boys. Posting crap to on topic
thread does not make your post on topic. A good example is the new news
group retard "MNMikew".

Try again Mikey.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF March 28th 08 12:19 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 27, 5:08*pm, Robert Cohen wrote:
On Mar 20, 9:33 pm, "Scooter" wrote:

Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising revenues as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad dollars for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn't even in yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he would not
own any of them under any condition right now.


Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/


- That's what the stock market seems to be intimating :
- Some of the notable chains are going for under $5 a share.
-
- http://finance.google.com/finance?meta=hl%3Den&q=ccu

Under $5 a Share : buy, Buy. BUY ! ~ RHF

David Eduardo[_4_] March 28th 08 08:01 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 

"Robert Cohen" wrote in message
...
On Mar 20, 9:33 pm, "Scooter" wrote:
Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising revenues as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad dollars
for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn't even in
yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the
terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he would
not
own any of them under any condition right now.

Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/


That's what the stock market seems to be intimating: Some of the
notable chains are going for under $5 a share.


Share price does not indicate value. A share of one company that goes for
$80 is no better a buy than one that sells for $5 if the earnings per share
and other fundamentals are in proportion to the stock price. Many companies
do stock splits when shares go up in price, in fact.



Robert Cohen March 29th 08 01:20 PM

Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
On Mar 28, 4:01*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Robert Cohen" wrote in message

...





On Mar 20, 9:33 pm, "Scooter" wrote:
Terrestrial radio's biggest problem is retaining advertising revenues as
more ad dollars are siphoned by the internet. In 2007 total ad dollars
for
radio fell to where they were in 2003. That point to an industry going
backwards, not forward, Cramer said.
The average market cap of terrestrial radio companies has declined by a
staggering 80% over the last five years. But the bottom isn't even in
yet,
as far as Cramer can tell
Either way, the bottom line remains the same. Cramer expects the
terrestrial
radio companies to go down harder than almost anything else and he would
not
own any of them under any condition right now.


Here's the video - http://www.cnbc.com/id/23558686/from/ET/


That's what the stock market seems to be intimating: Some of the
notable chains are going for under $5 a share.


Share price does not indicate value. A share of one company that goes for
$80 is no better a buy than one that sells for $5 if the earnings per share
and other fundamentals are in proportion to the stock price. Many companies
do stock splits when shares go up in price, in fact.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I agree with your point.

Here is problem/opportunity (imho)

Some fiduciary "conservative" funds are not allowed by charter to buy
anything under $5, and "reverse splits" in "cheap" penny stocks
sometimes happen for this reason.

NYSE, New York Stock Exchange, under $2 stocks aren't publicized/
listed in daily highlight/lowlight reports of many newspapers.

Of course they are all over the internet

NASDAQ exchange is seemingly somewhat similar

Caveat penny stocks players, because there seems to be somewhat more
manipulating, cheating, scalping, pumping-dumping, chicanery-trickery
with "cheapos" than with the "high priced"

I see Citadel, Radio One, the Spanish radio chain, Westwood etal are
under $5.

You, say in the sales departments of stations that are nevertheless
seemingly doing nicely, are encouraged to post your experieces and
perceptions.

Is now the time to load-up, and/or is your industry dying, as the
movie industry was thought to be in the 1950s because of television

These are blunt, flawed ideas and I apologize to any offended: your
corrections & opposing ideas are encouraged

Scooter April 5th 08 10:12 PM

Moive Industry Thrives/ Jim Cramer Why Radio is dead.
 
The movie industry thrives because movie goers still must walk into a
theater to view the latest block buster movie! Yes you can sit back and wait
a few months to watch the release on DVD or HBO or such services. But people
still view going out to the movies as entertainment and will pay the price
for admission to see the latest release from Hollywood. Also producers know
to keep people interested their products must wow customers! And their
content must be better than good!

When a new song is released I can hear the artist anyplace. I can buy the CD
from any store or download it from the Internet. Music and the content of
radio is now available everywhere. The Internet, satellite radio, cell
phones Am/FM HD 1 & 2 and wireless Internet access. with more gadgets to
follow I'm sure. And with the exception of a few rare shows or personalities
most radio stations sound the same. And forgive but where's the wow factor
for HD radio? This is their big release! their big hit! HD is radio's future
and what we have is more of the same but it sounds a little better. You
can't even walk into Best Buy and hear a dozen or so great sounding
stations. You're lucky if you can receive one. I'm not wowed... I'm curious
but not wowed to part with $200.00 or more! Maybe $29.99 but not $200.00
They just don't get it. I've listened to a few Clear Channel HD stations
online.. The comedy channel is different. The music stations sound like
everything else. They're not investing in personalites or marekting their
stations.. Do people still want to listen to fun creative radio
personalites? maybe not.

Radio revenues have been flat for years. 1% growth is no growth. And
recently revenues have gone backward. It means advertisers have lost
confidence and are spending their resources elsewhere. Googles point and
click is affordable and advertisers can track their response. Other
advertising forms are still healthy and growing Internet revenues are now
outpacing radio! Radio is a mature industry and has hit the ceiling. Radio
needs to innovate and recreate it self. Doing the same old thing won't work
anymore. They'd be better off giving their HD stations to interns and
college kids they'd come up with fresh new ideas! Steve Jobs builds better
mouse traps and it takes maverick like thinking to cut through the bull and
get the job done.


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