On Mar 21, 10:27�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in ...

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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� Which raises the question....why would you waste your time?

� You dismiss him as irrelevant. You dismiss him as alcoholic.

� And yet...you're the one who engages him.

If you had been on a high school or college debate team, you would
understand.

� � �So, this just sport for you. You're not arguing to purpose, you're
simply arguing. Got it.

No, you do not get it. Debate, going back to the Greeks, was as much about
the enjoyment of the discussion as the content being discussed. There are
two parts... holding a point of view and enjoying the challenge of defending
it.



I have a disdain for DXers who have a disdain for broadcasters. Big
difference.

� � �What you conveniently ignore, is that fans don't turn on the object
of their fanaticism....they have to be run off.

This "hatred" has to origins...

One is based in the decline of AM whereby most "DX hours" programming is
networked and there is little variety to hear among domestics.

The second is based on AM looking for a saviour, and placing some faith inHD Radioto improve its declining fortunes.

The first makes late-night DX boring. The second makes it impossible. Both
are reasonable business decisions by AM stations, but DXers see them as
attacks.



� � �Broadcasters were long disdainful of DXers before DXers were turned
off.

I would not say that. Interest in DX reports waned as the importance of
non-local coverage waned, while at the same time most non-Metro stations
used outside contract engineers who were not paid to answer reception
reports. Today, nearly nobody at a station will know what DX even is.



Unless, like another poster here, who faded away about the time of your
appearance, your bickering here is fodder for some discussions outside
of the group.

How nice to be able to foment conversation.

� � �As usual, you miss my point.

You have no point.

"News/Talk/Sports:Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio..."

http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

"Sean Hannity's warning for music-oriented Radio"

"In five years when every car has an iPod connection and you can
listen to anything you want, what is music radio going to do? Sean is
dead right on this point. Within five years we'll see diminishing
ratings on sound-alike music-oriented FM's. And radio will enter a new
age of non-music programming. Not necessarily talk. But not
particularly music... The AM radio style of political talk is only one
facet of what will fast become a burgeoning trend towards non-music."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/12/sean-hannitys-w.html

"The Last Days of AM Radio?"

"Sports, all-news and talk programming continue to draw large
audiences to the AM band in most big cities..."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfi..._am_radio.html

"News/Talk/Sports Tops Radio Formats, Interep Analysis Reveals"

"The latest share numbers place the News/Talk/Sports format at the
top, pulling in an average of 17 percent of listenership among persons
age 12-plus, based on Arbitron figures for total radio listening in 92
continuously measured metros. That share number is even higher than
levels seen last spring, when the war in Iraq began. According to
Interep, more stations than ever are programming News/Talk."

http://www.thenewsletterplace.com/05...9/article4.htm

It's the music-oriented FMs that are screwed.