Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old March 25th 08, 02:10 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
RHF RHF is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,652
Default IBOC : Broadcast Newsroom -reports- Mercedes-Benz Adds HD Radio AsOption

Broadcast Newsroom -reports- Mercedes-Benz Adds HD Radio As Option

http://radio.broadcastnewsroom.com/a....jsp?id=340824

Among Automakers now offering HD Radio are . . .

-source- Broadcast Newsroom (BN) - 03/24/08
CopyRight © 2008 - Reed Business Information,
a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. - All Rights Reserved.
  #2   Report Post  
Old March 25th 08, 02:28 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
RHF RHF is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,652
Default DBS-Radio : Clear Channel to FCC : Wash XM-Sirius' Mouth-Out withSoap

Clear Channel to FCC : Wash XM-Sirius' Mouth-Out with Soap
-by- Matthew Lasar - Published : March 25, 2008

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...with-soap.html

Taking the "X" out of XM Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) Radio
Clear Channel wants the FCC to apply the Broadcast Decency
Rules to DS-Radio.

Now Clear Channel wants even more strings attached
to the possible . . .

-source- Ars Technica {Art of Technology}
CopyRight © 1998-2008 - Ars Technica, LLC
All Rights Reserved.
  #3   Report Post  
Old March 25th 08, 09:20 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Aug 2007
Posts: 707
Default IBOC : HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change -Begins in the American Car and Truck

On Mar 25, 2:49�pm, RHF wrote:
IBOCcrock,

You Don't Get It ! - The Automakers are using "HD-Radio"
as a Premium Option on the High-End "Status" Cars and
Trunks. �Because they believe that "HD-Radio" confirs
"Status" and will Help-to-Sell New Cars and Trucks.

STATUS = New + Innovative + Interesting = Sales !

Yes the Automakers are Using "HD-Radio" for any
and all the Free Publicity that they can get from the
HD-Radio Alliance.

-ps- The Automakers make Premium Money on Each
Premium Option : It is only incidental that this Premium
Option is an "HD-Radio".

This simply follows a Tried-and-True Marketing Scheme
that has been used forever by the Automakers : They
use something that they consider "New + Innovative +
Interesting" as a Premium Option on the High-End
"Status" Cars and Trunks for 1~3 Years.

Next the Automakers will make "HD-Radio"a Standard
Feature on those High-End "Status" Cars and Trunks;
and a Premium Option on their 'other' Vehicles for
another 1~3 Years.

-ps- The Automakers make make Money on Each Standard
Feature inclued in the New Higher Price of the New and
Better Car and Truck even when that Feature is an "HD-Radio"
Plus The Automakers will be making much more Premium
Money on Each Premium Option Sold : It is only incidental
that this Premium Option is an "HD-Radio".

Then with another for 1~3 Years the Automakers make
"HD-Radio" a Standard Feature on all Cars and Trucks.

-ps- The Automakers make make even more Money on
Each Standard Feature inclued in the New Higher Price
of All the New and Better Car and Truck even when that
Feature is an "HD-Radio".

HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change :
[ Begins in the American Car and Truck ]

The most direct path to the vast majority of "Free" Over-the-Air
AM/FM Radio Listeners has always been -via- the Radios
in their Cars and Trucks. �What Happens Audio Wise in
the Cars and Trucks follows-through in the Home and
Office; again with-in 1~3 Years.

Do-the-Math : 3 + 3 + 3 = 9 Years which is about a Decade.
The vast majority of new Cars and Trucks will have a new
"HD-Radio" in them and many used �Cars and Trucks will
have a new "HD-Radio" in them too.
+ Add-in another 3 Years and in little over a Decade the
vast majority of American Homes and Offices will have a
new "HD-Radio" in them too.

Don't have to Like or Hate "HD-Radio" to understand the
Path of Change and Trends that 'cause' Change to Occur.
�.
IBOC & HD-Radio = Follow-the-Money = Bu$ine$$ & Politi�$
�.
�.
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
�.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
�.
Google Search Results for : HD-Radiohttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
�.
Google News Results for : HD-Radiohttp://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
�.
=PS= You Win-the-Day when you put : IBOC -or-
HD Radio -or- iBiquity in the Subject-Line of your
Anti-IBOC-HD-Radio-iBiquity Posts :
* The People who want To-Read-It can choose to Read-It
-and- Like You
* The People who Do Not Want To-Read-It can choose
NOT to read it -and- They Will Not Dislike You.
TBL - That's Win+Win for You and Your Message.
�.
On Mar 25, 10:54 am, IBOCcrock wrote:



On Mar 25, 9:10 am, RHF wrote:


Broadcast Newsroom -reports- Mercedes-Benz Adds HD Radio As Option


http://radio.broadcastnewsroom.com/a....jsp?id=340824


Among Automakers now offering HD Radio are . . .


-source- �Broadcast Newsroom (BN) - 03/24/08
CopyRight (c) 2008 - Reed Business Information,
a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. - All Rights Reserved.
�.
IBOC & HD-Radio = Follow-the-Money = Bu$ine$$ & Politi�$
�.
�.
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
�.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
�.
Google Search Results for : HD-Radiohttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
�.
Google News Results for : HD-Radiohttp://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
�.
=PS= You Win-the-Day when you put : IBOC -or-
HD Radio -or- iBiquity in the Subject-Line of your
Anti-IBOC-HD-Radio-iBiquity Posts :
* The People who want To-Read-It can choose to Read-It
-and- Like You
* The People who Do Not Want To-Read-It can choose
NOT to read it -and- They Will Not Dislike You.
TBL - That's Win+Win for You and Your Message.
�.


"DEAD AIR: Radio's Great Leap Forward stalling in the Valley"


"Nearly two years after the Valley's four Clear Channel stations went
HD, several high-end car manufacturers have promised to offer HD
radios as an option on new models. But while Ford announced in
September that it offers the radios as dealer-installed upgrades -- as
have Mini, Volvo, Jaguar and BMW -- local Ford and Lincoln dealers had
not heard of HD and said they don't offer the option."


http://www.themonitor.com/news/radio...ml/digital_new....


"Are Ford and HD Radio in Sync?"


"The radio industry will, of course, promote Ford for free in exchange
for this development as part of the presumably soon-to-expire pledge
of airtime to the HD radio effort."


http://www.hear2.com/2007/09/are-ford-and-hd.html


Look what Ford pulled - Mercedes sales are down, and just like every
one else, they are using HD Radio for free publicity.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


****ing kook.
  #4   Report Post  
Old March 25th 08, 09:23 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Aug 2007
Posts: 707
Default IBOC : HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change -Begins in the American Car and Truck

On Mar 25, 2:49 pm, RHF wrote:
IBOCcrock,

You Don't Get It ! - The Automakers are using "HD-Radio"
as a Premium Option on the High-End "Status" Cars and
Trunks. Because they believe that "HD-Radio" confirs
"Status" and will Help-to-Sell New Cars and Trucks.

STATUS = New + Innovative + Interesting = Sales !

Yes the Automakers are Using "HD-Radio" for any
and all the Free Publicity that they can get from the
HD-Radio Alliance.

-ps- The Automakers make Premium Money on Each
Premium Option : It is only incidental that this Premium
Option is an "HD-Radio".

This simply follows a Tried-and-True Marketing Scheme
that has been used forever by the Automakers : They
use something that they consider "New + Innovative +
Interesting" as a Premium Option on the High-End
"Status" Cars and Trunks for 1~3 Years.

Next the Automakers will make "HD-Radio"a Standard
Feature on those High-End "Status" Cars and Trunks;
and a Premium Option on their 'other' Vehicles for
another 1~3 Years.

-ps- The Automakers make make Money on Each Standard
Feature inclued in the New Higher Price of the New and
Better Car and Truck even when that Feature is an "HD-Radio"
Plus The Automakers will be making much more Premium
Money on Each Premium Option Sold : It is only incidental
that this Premium Option is an "HD-Radio".

Then with another for 1~3 Years the Automakers make
"HD-Radio" a Standard Feature on all Cars and Trucks.

-ps- The Automakers make make even more Money on
Each Standard Feature inclued in the New Higher Price
of All the New and Better Car and Truck even when that
Feature is an "HD-Radio".

HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change :
[ Begins in the American Car and Truck ]

The most direct path to the vast majority of "Free" Over-the-Air
AM/FM Radio Listeners has always been -via- the Radios
in their Cars and Trucks. What Happens Audio Wise in
the Cars and Trucks follows-through in the Home and
Office; again with-in 1~3 Years.

Do-the-Math : 3 + 3 + 3 = 9 Years which is about a Decade.
The vast majority of new Cars and Trucks will have a new
"HD-Radio" in them and many used Cars and Trucks will
have a new "HD-Radio" in them too.
+ Add-in another 3 Years and in little over a Decade the
vast majority of American Homes and Offices will have a
new "HD-Radio" in them too.

Don't have to Like or Hate "HD-Radio" to understand the
Path of Change and Trends that 'cause' Change to Occur.
.
IBOC & HD-Radio = Follow-the-Money = Bu$ine$$ & Politi¢$
.
.
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
Google Search Results for : HD-Radiohttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
Google News Results for : HD-Radiohttp://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
=PS= You Win-the-Day when you put : IBOC -or-
HD Radio -or- iBiquity in the Subject-Line of your
Anti-IBOC-HD-Radio-iBiquity Posts :
* The People who want To-Read-It can choose to Read-It
-and- Like You
* The People who Do Not Want To-Read-It can choose
NOT to read it -and- They Will Not Dislike You.
TBL - That's Win+Win for You and Your Message.
.
On Mar 25, 10:54 am, IBOCcrock wrote:



On Mar 25, 9:10 am, RHF wrote:


Broadcast Newsroom -reports- Mercedes-Benz Adds HD Radio As Option


http://radio.broadcastnewsroom.com/a....jsp?id=340824


Among Automakers now offering HD Radio are . . .


-source- Broadcast Newsroom (BN) - 03/24/08
CopyRight (c) 2008 - Reed Business Information,
a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. - All Rights Reserved.
.
IBOC & HD-Radio = Follow-the-Money = Bu$ine$$ & Politi¢$
.
.
the truth is out there - riding on a radio wave ~ RHF
.
- - - the digital divide : i draw the line @ iboc 'hd' radio - - -
.
Google Search Results for : HD-Radiohttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
Google News Results for : HD-Radiohttp://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=HD-Radio
.
=PS= You Win-the-Day when you put : IBOC -or-
HD Radio -or- iBiquity in the Subject-Line of your
Anti-IBOC-HD-Radio-iBiquity Posts :
* The People who want To-Read-It can choose to Read-It
-and- Like You
* The People who Do Not Want To-Read-It can choose
NOT to read it -and- They Will Not Dislike You.
TBL - That's Win+Win for You and Your Message.
.


"DEAD AIR: Radio's Great Leap Forward stalling in the Valley"


"Nearly two years after the Valley's four Clear Channel stations went
HD, several high-end car manufacturers have promised to offer HD
radios as an option on new models. But while Ford announced in
September that it offers the radios as dealer-installed upgrades -- as
have Mini, Volvo, Jaguar and BMW -- local Ford and Lincoln dealers had
not heard of HD and said they don't offer the option."


http://www.themonitor.com/news/radio...ml/digital_new....


"Are Ford and HD Radio in Sync?"


"The radio industry will, of course, promote Ford for free in exchange
for this development as part of the presumably soon-to-expire pledge
of airtime to the HD radio effort."


http://www.hear2.com/2007/09/are-ford-and-hd.html


Look what Ford pulled - Mercedes sales are down, and just like every
one else, they are using HD Radio for free publicity.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You don't get it:

"Ford Gets More Sirius"

"Sirius Satellite Radio and Ford announced today that they are
targeting a 70% installation rate for the Ford and Mercury brand of
automobiles. Ford had previously announced that their Lincoln brand
was effectively at standard equipment. This commitment with the Ford
and Mercury brands is a substantial step for Sirius, as it brings Ford
up to a similar installation pace as Chrysler."

http://siriusbuzz.com/ford-gets-more-sirius.php

"Ford to make Sirius Factory Standard in Canada"

"Here's some incredible news for Sirius Canada: Ford of Canada has
announced that they will make Sirius Satellite Radio a factory-
standard feature in virtually all Fords sold in Canada, by the end of
2007. That's a total of 20 vehicle lines. Absolutely great news, and
hopefully a sign of things to come for the U.S."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/fo...in-canada.html

"Ford SYNC, HD Radio and the state of competition"

"Now here's the killer: Ford is making SYNC available as a factory-
installed option for just over $300. And for the top-end trim levels,
like the Focus SES, it'll be a standard feature."

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/fo...mpetition.html

"Radio: Internet Radio or HD Radio. You choose!"

"The first video is a pitch from Ford for their new optional SYNC,
which, among many other things, allows one to listen to any Internet
Radio from anywhere in the world... I searched in vain for a Ford
pitch video on HD Radio but, wisely, they didn't do one."

http://gormanmediablog.blogspot.com/...blog-post.html

"iBiquity Digital Investor Information"

"iBiquity's investors are global leaders in the technology,
broadcasting, manufacturing, media and financial industries all
supporting the development and rollout of HD Radio broadcasting:
Leading Manufacturers include Ford Motor Company, Visteon
Corporation...."

http://www.ibiquity.com/about_us/investor_information

"Lincoln Mercury, Visteon and iBiquity to Showcase HD Radio?"

"Both Ford and Visteon have agreements with iBiquity Digital, the sole
developer and licenser of digital AM and FM radio in the United
States, with Visteon already developing HD Radio capable OEM receivers
for the 2004 model year."

http://www.ibiquity.com/press_room/n...eases/2002/100
  #5   Report Post  
Old March 26th 08, 01:52 AM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 4,494
Default IBOC : HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change - Begins in the American Car and Truck

In article
,
RHF wrote:

IBOCcrock,

You Don't Get It ! - The Automakers are using "HD-Radio"
as a Premium Option on the High-End "Status" Cars and
Trunks. Because they believe that "HD-Radio" confirs
"Status" and will Help-to-Sell New Cars and Trucks.


SNIP

You are the one that does not "get it". Most people don't even know what
HD radio is and if they do they don't generally want it. Most people
that are serious about music get satellite radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


  #6   Report Post  
Old March 26th 08, 07:17 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Oct 2006
Posts: 52
Default IBOC : HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change -Begins in the American Car and Truck

On Mar 25, 6:52 pm, Telamon
wrote:

Most people don't even know what HD radio is and if they do they don't generally want it. Most people that are serious about music get satellite radio.


A few years ago most people didn't even know what satellite radio is.
JUST LIKE HD RADIO, satellite radio started as a PREMIUM in the LUXURY
cars. Then, after SEVERAL YEARS, became an option on most cars. I am
surprised that so many people are so clueless as to how new products
start and develop into the mainstream. Just like navigation systems.
They were first offered as an option on the Luxury cars about 9 or 10
years ago, and STILL this option is NOT offered on all models of
cars. IT TAKES TIME for the mainstream to become informed. Not to
mention that MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS about spending their hard-
earned money WISELY would NEVER pay for a satellite subscription.
  #7   Report Post  
Old March 26th 08, 08:13 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
RHF RHF is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,652
Default IBOC : HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change -Begins in the American Car and Truck

On Mar 25, 6:52*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,

*RHF wrote:
IBOCcrock,


You Don't Get It ! - The Automakers are using "HD-Radio"
as a Premium Option on the High-End "Status" Cars and
Trunks. *Because they believe that "HD-Radio" confirs
"Status" and will Help-to-Sell New Cars and Trucks.


SNIP

You are the one that does not "get it". Most people don't even know what
HD radio is and if they do they don't generally want it. Most people
that are serious about music get satellite radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


Telamon - It's 1958* and FM (Mono) Radio all over again. ~ RHF

* Then by 1978 everyone had FM-Stereo Radio in their Cars,
Homes amd Offices.

Change Simply Happens at Its Own Pace and In It's Own Time.
  #8   Report Post  
Old March 26th 08, 08:14 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
RHF RHF is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,652
Default IBOC : HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change -Begins in the American Car and Truck

On Mar 26, 12:17*pm, wrote:
On Mar 25, 6:52 pm, Telamon

wrote:
Most people don't even know what HD radio is and if they do they don't generally want it. Most people that are serious about music get satellite radio.


A few years ago most people didn't even know what satellite radio is.
JUST LIKE HD RADIO, satellite radio started as a PREMIUM in the LUXURY
cars. *Then, after SEVERAL YEARS, became an option on most cars. *I am
surprised that so many people are so clueless as to how new products
start and develop into the mainstream. *Just like navigation systems.
They were first offered as an option on the Luxury cars about 9 or 10
years ago, and STILL this option is NOT offered on all models of
cars. *IT TAKES TIME for the mainstream to become informed. *Not to
mention that MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS about spending their hard-
earned money WISELY would NEVER pay for a satellite subscription.



GA - It's 1958* and FM (Mono) Radio is a Premium Option
in New Cars. ~ RHF

* Then by 1978 everyone had FM-Stereo Radio in their Cars,
Homes amd Offices.

Change Simply Happens at Its Own Pace and In It's Own Time.
  #10   Report Post  
Old March 26th 08, 09:04 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
RHF RHF is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,652
Default IBOC : HD-Radio and the Implementation of Technological Change -Begins in the American Car and Truck

On Mar 26, 1:16*pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
wrote:

MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS about spending their hard-

earned money WISELY would NEVER pay for a satellite subscription.


* *That's what they said about cable. *And later satellite TV.

* *It's all about content, Gary. What you want, you'll pay for. Cable TV
has taught us that.

* *HD has failed to deliver on its promise of better audio. And it's
never made a case for content.

* *Cable subscribers signed up for content not available over the air.
Satellite TV subscribers signed up for content not available through Cable..

* *Satellite radio subscribers have signed up for content not available
on terrestrial radio.

* *HD could offer the same alternatives, but has not. So, HD has been of
interest to gadgeteers and geeks, broadcasters and those with a vested
interest in the technology. But the public has been unwilling to drop
$200+ on a radio that only provides what is already available free.

* *Radio listening is about content. Until HD is promoted for it
content, it will not garner much interest with the buying public.

* *If the radio is not playing what the listener wants to hear....it
doesn't matter what it sounds like.


DPM,

Hence the Clear Channel request to the FCC to Extend
the Broadcast Decency Rules to DBS-Radio.

Create an Equality in the Allowable "Content" for both
Terrestrial AM/FM and Direct Satellite Radio Broadcasters.

Clear Channel to FCC : Wash XM-Sirius' Mouth-Out with Soap
-by- Matthew Lasar - Published : March 25, 2008

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...nnel-to-fcc-wa...

Taking the "X" out of XM Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) Radio
Clear Channel wants the FCC to apply the Broadcast Decency
Rules to DBS-Radio.

Now Clear Channel wants even more strings attached
to the possible . . .

-source- Ars Technica {Art of Technology}
CopyRight © 1998-2008 - Ars Technica, LLC
All Rights Reserved.
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HD Radio - How To Complain About IBOC AM/MW Radio Broadcast Interference RHF Shortwave 0 October 8th 07 08:07 PM
Nighttime AM broadcast band IBOC approved by FCC Doug Smith W9WI[_2_] Broadcasting 0 May 9th 07 07:32 PM
Nighttime AM broadcast band IBOC approved by FCC Jim Burgan Broadcasting 0 May 8th 07 07:34 PM
Nighttime AM broadcast band IBOC approved by FCC Xmttrman Broadcasting 0 April 20th 07 08:02 PM
Newsroom In A Box Kevin Coan Broadcasting 0 May 4th 04 01:07 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:47 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017