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Old April 1st 08, 01:13 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave
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Default HD it's time to upgrade?

The new theme arose in part from a brainstorm session they had with partners
and consultants earlier this month in Orlando. The HD Alliance folks were
kind enough to invite me to that session. Although I wasn't able to attend,
I certainly appreciate the invitation, which they obviously didn't need to
extend.
It's tough to be critical of this marketing campaign because, frankly, there
is no marketing campaign that can address the core difficulties of HD, which
have to do with all those issues I spelled out years ago
http://www.feedblitz.com/t.asp?/526/9720952/http://www.hear2.com/2005/05/the_premature_d.html
and today looks downright prescient.
The only point I'll make here is that big screen HD TV's aren't selling
because "it's time to upgrade." The latest iPod isn't selling because "it's
time to upgrade." These things are selling because their benefits are
obvious and compelling.
Further, "upgrade" implies the need to buy something new, when (as I have
argued before) the best way for HD to enter the lives of consumers is
invisibly and "for free" through the cars and clock radios they are already
buying. Do a reality check, and you'll see that satellite radio is coming to
this same conclusion, albeit kicking and screaming.
Finally, HD is certainly an "upgrade" from the perspective of the
broadcaster and the engineer. But is it an "upgrade" from the perspective of
the consumer, who already has more choices than they know what to do with -
even if they're not choices which are not under the control of the radio
industry? After all, when the Internet is in my car, isn't HD Radio actually
a downgrade?
So in a sense the folks who advertise HD have to say something. And yet
there is virtually nothing they can say that will matter.
An unenviable predicament.

I've said the same thing. HD TV's & Ipods are selling because their benefits
are obvious and compelling.
HUD Radio it's not so obvious. Heck if I could walk into Walmart or Best Buy
and hear 20 or 15 great sounding stations in HD format that might help. But
you can't.. Unless the tower is right down the street.. these expensive rigs
need an outside stick to maybe hear just a few unimpressive stations. I
can't wait for the band to be filled with new impressive HD formats. It
won't happen though. Radio owes it's soul to Arbitron and to make money you
must be have ratings. Yes you can be #20 in a market and have a radio
station, but station owners won't make money and they won't invest in talent
and marketing.. the station will just be there. Owners will just continue to
invest in analog radio because that's were the money is. Chicken or egg
situation...
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW! Not enough radios and listeners equals HD stations
stuck in limbo.
They exist. but who cares.. Ok maybe when the average consumers can walks
into Walmart and can find HUD radios for $29.99 then maybe we'll see
movement.. Until then my old fashion radios work just fine!
If I was iBiquity I'd strike a deal with a manufacture and start giving
away ton's of HD radios. Advertising Hd on analog radio ain' working guys...
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Default IBOC : AM/FM HD-Radio - Status Sells ! -while- Upgrades Just Happen.

Scooter,

The HD-Radio Alliance needs to Pump-Up the Message :
Like back in the 1950's with Direct Promos to the 'Local'
High School Students; and may be College Students too . . .

-weak- HD Digital Radio : IT'S TIME TO UPGRADE !
http://www.hdradio.com/

-weak- The HD Digital Radio Alliance -
http://www.hdradioalliance.com/
It's Time To Upgrade !

-weak- 'New Logo' "HD Radio - It's Time To Upgrade !"
http://www.hdradioalliance.com/i/log...io_upgrade.jpg
(c) 2008 HD Digital Radio (tm) Alliance. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.hdradioalliance.com/trademark.php
iBiquity Digital Corporation - http://www.ibiquity.com/
-cool- "HD Radio - It's Time for Cool All Digital Sounds and more !"
-hot- "HD Radio - It's Time for Hot All Digital Sounds and more !"
-digital- "HD Radio - It's Time for the All Digital Sounds and
more !"
The Younger "Next" Generation of Audio Consumers :
"Want More" from their AM/FM Radios besides Sound :
"They Want More . . ." {Promise Them More and Deliver.}

Hello ! - GIVE-A-WAY a "Free" AM/FM HD-Radio to :
One Boy and One Girl in each 'Local' High School :
"The King and Queen of the Cool Hot New . . . Sounds"
with Their New HD-Radios . . .

TO VOTE : High School Students must Go-On-Line
{Registar} at the 'Local' HD-Radio Stations -website-
and Vote for the Most Popular Boy and Girl at their
High School. { What Could Be Easier ! }

CONTESTS : One or More High-School each Week/Month
for as many Weeks/ Months : Until all the High Schools
have been done in the 'Local' Broadcast Area.

CREATES : "The BUZZ" for HD-Radio at the 15~18 Year Old
Demographic Grouping to start creating The-Next-Generation
of AM/FM HD-Radio Listeners.

GRAND PRIZE : One Over-All Grand Prize -from- All those
that Reqistered on the 'Local' HD-Radio Stations -website-
Wins an AM/FM HD-Radio 'installed' in their Car.

The High School Student PROMO Does Two Things :

1 - Drives High School Students to the 'Local' HD-Radio
Stations -website- To Register {Who's Listening}

2 - Creates Awareness in the 15~18 Year-Old Demographic
of AM/FM HD-Radio and 'makes' It-a-Status-Thing !

IBOC : AM/FM HD-Radio - Status Sells !
-while- Upgrades Just Happen.
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On Apr 1, 7:13�am, "Scooter" wrote:
The new theme arose in part from a brainstorm session they had with partners
and consultants earlier this month in Orlando. The HD Alliance folks were
kind enough to invite me to that session. Although I wasn't able to attend,
I certainly appreciate the invitation, which they obviously didn't need to
extend.
It's tough to be critical of this marketing campaign because, frankly, there
is no marketing campaign that can address the core difficulties of HD, which
have to do with all those issues I spelled out years ago
http://www.feedblitz.com/t.asp?/526/9720952/http://www.hear2.com/2005...
and today looks downright prescient.
The only point I'll make here is that big screen HD TV's aren't selling
because "it's time to upgrade." The latest iPod isn't selling because "it's
time to upgrade." These things are selling because their benefits are
obvious and compelling.
Further, "upgrade" implies the need to buy something new, when (as I have
argued before) the best way for HD to enter the lives of consumers is
invisibly and "for free" through the cars and clock radios they are already
buying. Do a reality check, and you'll see that satellite radio is coming to
this same conclusion, albeit kicking and screaming.
Finally, HD is certainly an "upgrade" from the perspective of the
broadcaster and the engineer. But is it an "upgrade" from the perspective of
the consumer, who already has more choices than they know what to do with -
even if they're not choices which are not under the control of the radio
industry? After all, when the Internet is in my car, isn't HD Radio actually
a downgrade?
So in a sense the folks who advertise HD have to say something. And yet
there is virtually nothing they can say that will matter.
An unenviable predicament.

I've said the same thing. HD TV's & Ipods are selling because their benefits
are obvious and compelling.
HUD Radio it's not so obvious. Heck if I could walk into Walmart or Best Buy
and hear 20 or 15 great sounding stations in HD format that might help. But
you can't.. Unless the tower is right down the street.. these expensive rigs
need an outside stick to maybe hear just a few unimpressive stations. I
can't wait for the �band to be filled with new impressive HD formats. It
won't happen though. Radio owes it's soul to Arbitron and to make money you
must be have ratings. Yes you can be #20 in a market and have a radio
station, but station owners won't make money and they won't invest in talent
and marketing.. the station will just be there. Owners will just continue to
invest in analog radio because that's were the money is. Chicken or egg
situation...
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW! Not enough radios and listeners equals HD stations
stuck in limbo.
They exist. but who cares.. Ok maybe when the average consumers can walks
into Walmart and can find HUD radios for $29.99 then maybe we'll see
movement.. Until then my old fashion radios work just fine!
If I was iBiquity �I'd strike a deal with a manufacture and start giving
away ton's of HD radios. Advertising Hd on analog radio ain' working guys....


This is an obious attempt to confuse consumers wit hthe mandated 2009
DTV changeover - here's Ramsey's take on this:

HD Radio: Is it "time to upgrade"?

Well you can't say the HD Radio folks aren't persistent.

Today they announced their new marketing theme, replacing "discover
it" with "it's time to upgrade."

Let's leave aside the perspective that awareness has been achieved, so
now it's time to shift gears to market penetration, since this
perspective implies that getting radios in the hands of consumers was
not the goal until now.

The new theme arose in part from a brainstorm session they had with
partners and consultants earlier this month in Orlando. The HD
Alliance folks were kind enough to invite me to that session. Although
I wasn't able to attend, I certainly appreciate the invitation, which
they obviously didn't need to extend.

It's tough to be critical of this marketing campaign because, frankly,
there is no marketing campaign that can address the core difficulties
of HD, which have to do with all those issues I spelled out years ago
and today looks downright prescient.

The only point I'll make here is that big screen HD TV's aren't
selling because "it's time to upgrade." The latest iPod isn't selling
because "it's time to upgrade." These things are selling because their
benefits are obvious and compelling.

Further, "upgrade" implies the need to buy something new, when (as I
have argued before) the best way for HD to enter the lives of
consumers is invisibly and "for free" through the cars and clock
radios they are already buying. Do a reality check, and you'll see
that satellite radio is coming to this same conclusion, albeit kicking
and screaming.

Finally, HD is certainly an "upgrade" from the perspective of the
broadcaster and the engineer. But is it an "upgrade" from the
perspective of the consumer, who already has more choices than they
know what to do with - even if they're not choices which are not under
the control of the radio industry? After all, when the Internet is in
my car, isn't HD Radio actually a downgrade?

So in a sense the folks who advertise HD have to say something. And
yet there is virtually nothing they can say that will matter.

An unenviable predicament.

http://www.hear2.com/2008/03/hd-radio-is-it.html

HD Radio - what a farce.
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