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Rfburns April 12th 08 05:52 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 12, 10:17 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

It took CD players 8 years to get to where a portable was under a hundred
bucks.


Eddie,

Nice try. The sale CD players showed continuous growth from their
inception. HD radio shows no growth. You need help in understanding
free markets.

Stubble...er... I mean Struble spends 90% of his time looking for
funds according to iBiquity insiders. Ibiquity is light years away
from self-supporting. It can't go on forever. People wanted CDs.
Nobody wants HD radio.

By the way what does "luddite" mean? You make up words like you take
your fantasies and peddle them as fact.

IBOCcrock April 12th 08 06:56 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 12, 10:17�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

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On Apr 12, 1:59?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"IBOCcrock" wrote in message


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"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"


"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."


All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix..
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.


iBiquity is running out of funds, and HD Radio has been around for
three years already, with zero consumer interest. As Arbitron stated,
that is not going to change. If HD Radio was going to take-off, it
would have done so, already, and you know it!

iBiquity is fully funded, and in for the long term. Consumer interest will
increase as prices decline.

It took CD players 8 years to get to where a portable was under a hundred
bucks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Are you waiting in line for your HD radio?"

"If you lower the price enough, folks will buy the radio."

That's the belief about HD radio that is being stoked in our industry.

And, of course, it's wrong.

At any given price consumers will purchase an item if the desire is
there and if the value of that item equals or exceeds the price being
charged for it. This is basic economics.

For example, if you wanted to be first to own a Sony PlayStation 3
game system, you waited on line for three days for the chance to spend
$600 on one of these babies when the doors opened at Best Buy last
Friday.

And you did it gladly. No discounts required.

Compare that with the industry's attitude about selling new radio
hardwa "Once the price drops below $100, they'll fly off the
shelves."

The more you have to drop your price, the lower the chance people
value what you're selling. And the less likely you are to sell your
wares at any price the maker of those wares finds appealing.

No matter if you're selling HD radios or satellite radios or whatever.

You could, of course, give the radios away (as we have argued), but
then don't pretend that your business plan requires people to buy
them.

Otherwise you will be judged a failure if they don't.

Check out this notice from Sirius about their hot new portable
Stiletto 100:

Due to high demand, we're now taking pre-orders on Stiletto 100. Place
your order today as new shipments are arriving weekly. Orders placed
today are now expected to ship the week of November 27, 2006.
And the price?

$349.99.

http://www.hear2.com/2006/11/are_you_waiting.html

Eduardo - are you really this stupid? Also, if iBiquity was fully-
funded for the long-hall, then they wouldn't be trying to scam J P
Morgan, and the likes, out of $15 million, and having to take out
loans:

"IBiquity Digital HQ expansion to include 82 new jobs"

"A $300,000 loan to iBiquity Digital Corp. from a state economic
development fund helped pay for expansion of the company's Columbia
headquarters."

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore...10/daily3.html

Telamon April 12th 08 10:05 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article
,
IBOCcrock wrote:

On Apr 12, 10:17?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

...
On Apr 12, 1:59?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





"IBOCcrock" wrote in message


...


"Arbitron/Edison study chills the already thin air of HD Radio"


"All you need to know about this research is this: It says relatively
few know about HD. It says that number hasn't gone up. And it implies
that folks are aware of what they care about, not vice versa. It also
strongly suggests this isn't going to change any time soon - as in,
forever."


All involved with HD know it is a long term proposition, not a quick fix.
Since the costs are very low for the top market stations to "do" HD, there
is plenty of time to let more and more receivers get into the market over
the next 5 to 7 years.


iBiquity is running out of funds, and HD Radio has been around for
three years already, with zero consumer interest. As Arbitron stated,
that is not going to change. If HD Radio was going to take-off, it
would have done so, already, and you know it!

iBiquity is fully funded, and in for the long term. Consumer interest will
increase as prices decline.

It took CD players 8 years to get to where a portable was under a hundred
bucks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Are you waiting in line for your HD radio?"

"If you lower the price enough, folks will buy the radio."

That's the belief about HD radio that is being stoked in our industry.


SNIP

I can tell you that I'm not going to buy some 1st generation piece of
crap radio.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] April 12th 08 10:20 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD...
 
What I ought to do about right now is step on over across Highway 80
from doggy's couch to Metrocenter Mall www.metromalljackson.com
and see can I sweet talk some of them cutie pie gals over there into
coming on over here and spend the night with me tonight.I am only two
hundred and seventy five foot steps from the mall.I am too drunk to
drive right now.I dont drive drunk.
cuhulin


David Eduardo[_4_] April 13th 08 03:15 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"m II" wrote in message news:pwcMj.4780$682.2007@edtnps90...
D Peter Maus wrote:

It's not a very precise term. Nor is it correctly used in this
application.



No it's not. Ludd wasn't anti progress, he was against machinery
destroying the livelihoods of countless thousands. The Guilds and
Journeymen/Apprentices had been around for quite while.


The current definition is "a person opposed to machinery or new technology."

Your definition is around a century old and obsolete.



dxAce April 13th 08 11:42 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"m II" wrote in message news:pwcMj.4780$682.2007@edtnps90...
D Peter Maus wrote:

It's not a very precise term. Nor is it correctly used in this
application.



No it's not. Ludd wasn't anti progress, he was against machinery
destroying the livelihoods of countless thousands. The Guilds and
Journeymen/Apprentices had been around for quite while.


The current definition is "a person opposed to machinery or new technology."

Your definition is around a century old and obsolete.


The only one 'obsolete' around here is YOU, 'Edurado'. You're not a radio
hobbyist. Now hit the road and stuff a sock in it, boy. Heavy emphasis on the
'boy'.



D Peter Maus April 13th 08 12:57 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD Radio farce
 
David Eduardo wrote:
"m II" wrote in message news:pwcMj.4780$682.2007@edtnps90...
D Peter Maus wrote:

It's not a very precise term. Nor is it correctly used in this
application.


No it's not. Ludd wasn't anti progress, he was against machinery
destroying the livelihoods of countless thousands. The Guilds and
Journeymen/Apprentices had been around for quite while.


The current definition is "a person opposed to machinery or new technology."

Your definition is around a century old and obsolete.



Ah, yes....the song of the truly desperate.



Telamon April 13th 08 05:29 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

SNIP

Huh?


SNIP

I noticed this happens to you a lot. Most of your posts revolve around
this word. Why is that?

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?

Looks like it to me.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Billy Burpelson[_2_] April 13th 08 06:16 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD Radio farce
 
Telamon wrote:

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


Telamon April 13th 08 06:30 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


You evaded the question Billy. Speaking of grasping how about an answer.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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