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Telamon April 13th 08 10:09 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo[_4_] April 13th 08 11:40 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.



[email protected] April 13th 08 11:47 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of theHD...
 
Four daughters? My mom and dad had four daughters and two sons, I am one
of their sons.I got along A OK with my four sisters.I left them alone
and they left me alone.

www.devilfinder.com 4 Marys

Neither one of their names is Mary.
cuhulin


Telamon April 13th 08 11:52 PM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.


I disagree with your generational descriptions. They are not correct.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon April 14th 08 12:41 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.


There is no real difference between what you call the 1st and 2nd
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.


These were the prototypes.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Rfburns April 14th 08 12:54 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 2:26 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Not with four daughters, I don't.


Eduardo - You should not be reproducing.

jw


IBOCcrock April 14th 08 01:00 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 4:32�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....



I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


The HD chipsets are still way too power-hungry for portable devices:

"HD Radio"

"Until now, portable HD Radio receivers have been unavailable because
the chipsets needed by this technology required too much power to be
practical for a battery-operated device. However, in January 2008 at
the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas iBiquity unveiled a
prototype of a new iPod-sized portable receiver. It is based on a new
chipset developed by Samsung. Although portable, it is still a
relatively power-hungry device (it will run on an average set of
alkaline batteries in about two hours, according to an iBiquity
engineer)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio

"Sirius Satellite Radio"

"Sirius Stiletto 100 - the first portable Sirius radio that allows
subscribers to listen to live Sirius programming... The unit's
batteries give the user approximately 30 hours of life."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius_Satellite_Radio

LOL!


IBOCcrock April 14th 08 01:01 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 2:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
t...
Telamon wrote:


Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."


(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


That was for cuhulin, you know hansom Harry.


But women are not something you need to worry about Eduardo.


Not with four daughters, I don't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's it like to know that they have done the "dirty deed"?

IBOCcrock April 14th 08 01:04 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HDRadio farce
 
On Apr 13, 2:26�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

....





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
t...
Telamon wrote:


Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?


An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."


(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


That was for cuhulin, you know hansom Harry.


But women are not something you need to worry about Eduardo.


Not with four daughters, I don't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You've got five females, whipp'n boy! Any of them ever get pregnant,
as teenagers?

David Eduardo[_4_] April 14th 08 01:43 AM

Eduardo is just angry about the latest Arbitron study of the HD Radio farce
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you
will
see in Q3 to Q4.


These were the prototypes.


Those were not prototypes. They were units like the Pioneer car stereos (the
ones nearly every engineer had) with HD and the BA Receptor.




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