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Telamon wrote:

Another thing I noticed is this "????" or "???". Most of your posts
have
sentences followed by 3 or 4 question marks so are you extra confused?

An interesting grammatical question, especially coming from one who
hasn't
yet grasped the difference between "to" and "too".


... or "hansom" and "handsome."

(She said Telamon is the most hansom SWL on the west coast of America.)


You moron, he was spelling 'hansom' like Cuhulin spells it.

Pay attention, oh faux one!


Citing the errors of others should either involve using quotes or the
parenthetical (sic) after the recognized error. You need a fresh copy of
Strunk & White.


I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?

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I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


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I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


Say Eddie, is that third generation, or third rate?

Drifter...

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I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.




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In article ,
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"Telamon" wrote in message
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I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.


I disagree with your generational descriptions. They are not correct.

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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..

I'm still waiting for a link for a 2nd generation HD radio from you in
quotes or did you forget?


The receivers coming later this year are third generation.


And I say they would be 2nd generation because all the radios out there
in the market are 1st generation. So if you could point out a 2nd
generation radio design it would be helpful.


No, they are not all first generation. Everything up to the BA Receptof HD
was first generation, and the stuff of the last two years is second
generation.


There is no real difference between what you call the 1st and 2nd
generation.

There were the prototypes with the demodulation part run on a card in a
computer. Then the 1st generation radios actually sold to the public
have general purpose DSP chips with all the supports parts needed to
adapt it to this specific IBOC application. The next generation will
have parts designed for IBOC and as such will have at least some degree
of optimization for this specific application. The parts count should
reduce and the required power should reduce. Hopefully performance will
improve and there will be more features provided.


The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you will
see in Q3 to Q4.


These were the prototypes.

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"Telamon" wrote in message
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The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you
will
see in Q3 to Q4.


These were the prototypes.


Those were not prototypes. They were units like the Pioneer car stereos (the
ones nearly every engineer had) with HD and the BA Receptor.


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The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you

will
see in Q3 to Q4.



OK, so what's the actual difference between these generations? Hardware?
Software?

And which of these generations are ready for subscription radio?

Frank Dresser


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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you

will
see in Q3 to Q4.



OK, so what's the actual difference between these generations? Hardware?
Software?


Chipset, software.

And which of these generations are ready for subscription radio?


None. I have never heard subscription radio talked about, in fact. Most
subscription based services are using other technologies.




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