"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you
will
see in Q3 to Q4.


OK, so what's the actual difference between these generations?
Hardware?
Software?

Chipset, software.
And which of these generations are ready for subscription radio?

None. I have never heard subscription radio talked about, in fact. Most
subscription based services are using other technologies.

David, David, David...now that's in direct conflict to something
discussed here a year ago. A conversation YOU chimed in on and admitted
that conditional access has been under test.

That's not subscription radio, that is data with a fee. The things I have
heard of being tested are data streams, like stock quotes, weather, traffic
info (that's the biggie) and such, but not programming. FMeXtra is the
preferred substitute for subscription services over an FM station, as it can
carry many more program services than HD at decent quality and with the
ability to lock usage to enabled subscribers. There are LA stations already
with two or three subscriber based FMeXtra channels going.

Now, c'mon...you may be busy, but you're not so busy you can'r remember
your own participation in a conversation on a worldwide forum. Are you?

Again, it's data streaming that is or was being tested. Not pay-for-play
audio channels.

Or is there another reason you conveniently forgot?

No forgetting... it didn't exist.

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..
[snip]

The first generation is a description of the pre-FCC authorization
receivers. Second generation is what is out now, and thirds is what you
will
see in Q3 to Q4.


OK, so what's the actual difference between these generations?
Hardware?
Software?
Chipset, software.
And which of these generations are ready for subscription radio?
None. I have never heard subscription radio talked about, in fact. Most
subscription based services are using other technologies.
David, David, David...now that's in direct conflict to something
discussed here a year ago. A conversation YOU chimed in on and admitted
that conditional access has been under test.

That's not subscription radio, that is data with a fee. The things I have
heard of being tested are data streams, like stock quotes, weather, traffic
info (that's the biggie) and such, but not programming. FMeXtra is the
preferred substitute for subscription services over an FM station, as it can
carry many more program services than HD at decent quality and with the
ability to lock usage to enabled subscribers. There are LA stations already
with two or three subscriber based FMeXtra channels going.


Splitting frog hairs, brother. Conditional access is conditional
access. It's ALL data. Audio, weather, traffic, stock quotes--In the
digital universe it's ALL data. If conditional access can be applied to
ONE commodity in a digital feed, it can be applied to ALL commodities in
a digital feed.

Subscription radio. By definition.

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

Splitting frog hairs, brother. Conditional access is conditional access.
It's ALL data. Audio, weather, traffic, stock quotes--In the digital
universe it's ALL data. If conditional access can be applied to ONE
commodity in a digital feed, it can be applied to ALL commodities in a
digital feed.

Subscription radio. By definition.

To me, it ain't radio if it does not talk after being decoded. A pure data
stream never consisted of audio at the other end, and that is what is being
or was being tested.

David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...

Splitting frog hairs, brother. Conditional access is conditional access.
It's ALL data. Audio, weather, traffic, stock quotes--In the digital
universe it's ALL data. If conditional access can be applied to ONE
commodity in a digital feed, it can be applied to ALL commodities in a
digital feed.

Subscription radio. By definition.

To me, it ain't radio if it does not talk after being decoded. A pure data
stream never consisted of audio at the other end, and that is what is being
or was being tested.

Nice spin, 'Eduardo'.

David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
Splitting frog hairs, brother. Conditional access is conditional access.
It's ALL data. Audio, weather, traffic, stock quotes--In the digital
universe it's ALL data. If conditional access can be applied to ONE
commodity in a digital feed, it can be applied to ALL commodities in a
digital feed.

Subscription radio. By definition.

To me, it ain't radio if it does not talk after being decoded. A pure data
stream never consisted of audio at the other end, and that is what is being
or was being tested.



Frog hairs, again, Brother. We're not talking 'to you'. We're
talking what is, the realities of this technology, and the intentions of
the gatekeepers who dole it out.


And, Sweetheart...ALL digital audio is a pure data stream.