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April 17th 08, 10:21 PM
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"Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. Then I can test it out Saturday night. If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. That antenna is currently laying on my roof in the shape of a sigma. I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about 75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D |
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#2
April 18th 08, 01:59 PM
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Michael wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. Then I can test it out Saturday night. If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. That antenna is currently laying on my roof in the shape of a sigma. I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about 75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D Ground the switch. |
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April 18th 08, 02:14 PM
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"Dave" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. Then I can test it out Saturday night. If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. That antenna is currently laying on my roof in the shape of a sigma. I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about 75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D Ground the switch. To what ??? Given that the switch will already be connected to the PL-259 connection of the well grounded sloping L antenna's shielded coax, hooking up another wire to the switch from the outside ground rod will be redundant, no ??? The best I can do is put a ground strap from the switch to an iron radiator in the shack. Think that will be any help ??? Michael |
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April 18th 08, 02:20 PM
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Michael wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. Then I can test it out Saturday night. If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. That antenna is currently laying on my roof in the shape of a sigma. I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about 75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D Ground the switch. To what ??? Given that the switch will already be connected to the PL-259 connection of the well grounded sloping L antenna's shielded coax, hooking up another wire to the switch from the outside ground rod will be redundant, no ??? The best I can do is put a ground strap from the switch to an iron radiator in the shack. Think that will be any help ??? Michael Yes. Lightning can induce voltage onto the cable shields that will either pass through your radios or find another path to ground. A radiator is usually a very nice ground. |
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#5
April 18th 08, 02:31 PM
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"Dave" wrote in message m... Michael wrote: "Dave" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. Then I can test it out Saturday night. If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. That antenna is currently laying on my roof in the shape of a sigma. I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about 75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D Ground the switch. To what ??? Given that the switch will already be connected to the PL-259 connection of the well grounded sloping L antenna's shielded coax, hooking up another wire to the switch from the outside ground rod will be redundant, no ??? The best I can do is put a ground strap from the switch to an iron radiator in the shack. Think that will be any help ??? Michael Yes. Lightning can induce voltage onto the cable shields that will either pass through your radios or find another path to ground. A radiator is usually a very nice ground. Will do. Thanx :-) Michael |
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April 26th 08, 07:40 PM
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On Apr 18, 6:14*am, "Michael" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... Michael wrote: "Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. *I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. *I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. *If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. *Then I can test it out Saturday night. *If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. * I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. *That antenna is currently laying on myroofin the shape of a sigma. *I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. *The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about *75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. *I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. *The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. *Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D Ground the switch. To what ??? Given that the switch will already be connected to the PL-259 connection of the well grounded sloping L antenna's shielded coax, hooking up another wire to the switch from the outside ground rod will be redundant, no ??? *The best I can do is put a ground strap from the switch to an iron radiator in the shack. Think that will be any help ??? Michael- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Michael, Install a 'separate' 8-foot Copper-Clad Steel Ground Rod very close to your Radio Shack for your Radio Shack's Ground. Use a very Heavy AWG Wire from the Ground Rod to your Radios and Receivers. iane ~ RHF |
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April 26th 08, 08:14 PM
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, RHF wrote: SNIP Michael, Install a 'separate' 8-foot Copper-Clad Steel Ground Rod very close to your Radio Shack for your Radio Shack's Ground. Use a very Heavy AWG Wire from the Ground Rod to your Radios and Receivers. Go sit on a ground rod news group retard. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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April 18th 08, 03:17 PM
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On Apr 17, 2:21*pm, "Michael" wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. *We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. *I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. *I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. *If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. *Then I can test it out Saturday night. *If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. * I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. *That antenna is currently laying on my roof in the shape of a sigma. *I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. *The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about *75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. *I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. *The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. *Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D Michael, In the location where you plan on sticking your Ground Rod : Take the time today to dig down about a Foot Deep and a Foot around {Hole} and Fill the Hole with Water Today, Friday and Saturday {Soak the Ground}. Pounding the Ground Rod into the Soil should be a little easier. Stop pounding the Rod into the Soil when you have about 6"~8" above the normal Soil level left to do. Fill the Whole with Soil and Tamp and the Soil Down {Walk-On-It}. Pound the Rod a little further into the ground and leave about 2"~4" of it above the Soil Level. READ - Make Your Own 'Special' Ground Rod Soil Mixture http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...b69b219da2de33 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...549154294a4d9b hope this helps - iane ~ RHF |
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April 18th 08, 03:30 PM
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"RHF" wrote in message ... On Apr 17, 2:21 pm, "Michael" wrote: "Michael" wrote in message ... Hiya... Hiya... Got the 6' solid brass ground rod and 24' ground strap today from ICE. We have clear weather forecast here for Saturday, so I plan to pound it into the ground. I'll mount the balun to the foundation low to the ground and connect the ground strap. I ordered 100' spool of antenna wire and a 100' length of coax. If they arrive in the next day, I'll be able to put it up Saturday along with the balun and ground spike. Then I can test it out Saturday night. If I don't get the antenna wire and other goodies by the weekend, it will have to wait another week for completion and testing. I'm glad I also have the 102' G5RV to test it against. That antenna is currently laying on my roof in the shape of a sigma. I plan to leave it as is. I'd say the 6' brass rod into the earth is a better ground then the brick chimney, but I don't think it will out perform the whole uncooked chicken. I'm still not sure if I should also ground the radio in the shack. The radio is on the second floor in the house, so any ground wire would have to be about 75' long to reach the spike, unless I just ground it to the iron radiator... or a chicken. I use a six receiver, six radio MFJ- 1700C switch to go between antennas and my two radios. The new properly grounded inverted L will always be hooked up to the switch along with both my radios and all antennas. Given that one antenna is well grounded and all items are hooked up to the same switch via shielded PL-259, will the other radios and antennas benefit from that one single grounded antenna ??? Forgive me for being a total retard here... My first ever antenna was a roll of aluminum foil and an alligator clip :-) I'm making some progress... Mike D Michael, In the location where you plan on sticking your Ground Rod : Take the time today to dig down about a Foot Deep and a Foot around {Hole} and Fill the Hole with Water Today, Friday and Saturday {Soak the Ground}. Pounding the Ground Rod into the Soil should be a little easier. Stop pounding the Rod into the Soil when you have about 6"~8" above the normal Soil level left to do. Fill the Whole with Soil and Tamp and the Soil Down {Walk-On-It}. Pound the Rod a little further into the ground and leave about 2"~4" of it above the Soil Level. Thank you. I was just wondering how much of the rod to leave above the ground. I read a few articles that say no more then 4" is idea. Is it OK if the clam that holds the strap on the rod is above the burry line ??? I want to be able to see that is still attached every now and then :-) Michael |
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April 18th 08, 03:00 PM
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A bunch of years ago, I bought eight copper plated, whatever plated they
are? eight foot long ground steel rods at the Goodwill store, dirt cheep.Last year, I gave one of my auld buddies five of them, for free.((Ronnie, you never know when you might need to hacksaw off a piece of rod for something)) He told me,,, you dont need to use a big hammer,,, just hold it between your fingers and bump it up and down in the dirt. cuhulin |
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