In article ,
"dBc" wrote:

Greetings Telamon..

Regarding:
"It was meant as a divisive description of amateurs. Most
amateurs I have come across are not much more than equipment
operators. Some appear to be good operators but do not seem to
exhibit any depth beyond that."

I believe this may be called appliance operator syndrome. With a
move away from concentrating on understand fundamental
electronics and circuits at the component level and their
operation, and not testing for such on the current amateur exams,
this results in the above syndrome. Result, is it any wonder that
a tsunami of technical design work is now being done overseas, OR
is moving overseas, where the science is considered/taught more
intensely at a younger age and school level.

This is exactly my thoughts on the subject. Amateur radio started out
with very little equipment made for it and the amateur had to build it
himself. The amateur service will only improve if the government
requires more technical understanding of the hobby since you can just go
out and buy everything you need to get on the air.

"If you like to fix your own electronics it makes sense but if
you do not it doesn't make any difference. I would suspect for
most people it makes no difference."

I would like to at least believe that the regular newsgroup crowd
here are of a more technical nature. Perhaps, they are
[primarily] nothing more than appliance operators - but I would
like to believe otherwise.

I'm sure they are no more technical that the people in the ham news
groups. At least that is the way it looked to me when I used to read
groups such as rec.radio.amateur.antenna. If you ever fell the need to
go insane go read that news group. I guarantee you will be muttering at
the monitor. You can read threads hundreds of posts long about electrons
sloshing back and forth in a coax due to some amount of VSWR on one end.

As mentioned in another thread here, the gentleman in South Africa
has recently purchased a IC-7700 that sits along side his IC-756 PRO
III. Apparently, he primarily listens (ONLY) to LF and MW. No
transmitting - amazing!

Yeah, he wants to use the digitally sharp and narrow filters to listen
to AM broadcasts in SSB mode so he can DX the AMBCB band. I'll stick
with SW receivers.

One thing is for certain, there is little doubt, that some of the
folks here have more of a budget than I do with my modest set up.

Most of the people I read in this news group appear to have portables
that cost $100 to $500. Others own boatanchors and a few have spent many
thousands of dollars on high end receivers and there are a few
individuals that hang around for no apparent reason generating
continuous streams of garbage posts.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

dBc wrote:
Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two links
do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

The 'good reason' may be that the OP doesn't seem to have a very good
grasp of the English language -- and sometimes he gets a little, shall
we say, creative; "raw" Amtor, "hammies" and a perpetual
misunderstanding of "to" vs. "too".

You are just an idiot. Your posting are proof of that. The government
should pull your license for your demonstrated ignorance.

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site,

This should be past tense, as AC6V has gone to the Big Hamfest
In the Sky. (I believe that a relative is currently maintaining the web
site).

I would not worry about this as you will be going the other way when you
die.

I wouldn't take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

True...because although there are -many- theories as to the origin of
the term 'ham', nothing has been proven to be definitive.

I have empirical evidence that you are an idiot, which seems pretty
definitive.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On May 1, 7:38*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Billy Burpelson wrote:

dBc wrote:
Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two links
do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

The 'good reason' may be that the OP doesn't seem to have a very good
grasp of the English language -- and sometimes he gets a little, shall
we say, creative; "raw" Amtor, "hammies" and a perpetual
misunderstanding of "to" vs. "too".

You are just an idiot. Your posting are proof of that. The government
should pull your license for your demonstrated ignorance.

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site,

This should be past tense, as AC6V has gone to the Big Hamfest
In the Sky. (I believe that a relative is currently maintaining the web
site).

I would not worry about this as you will be going the other way when you
die.

I wouldn't take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

True...because although there are -many- theories as to the origin of
the term 'ham', nothing has been proven to be definitive.

- I have empirical evidence that you are an idiot,
- which seems pretty definitive.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

PONG : Telamon - I Have Empirical Evidence That You Are An Idiot,
Which Seems Pretty Definitive.

teli - what you post says a lot about you ~ RHF

In article
,
RHF wrote:

On May 1, 7:38*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
*Billy Burpelson wrote:

dBc wrote:
Greetings Michael..

I'm well aware of the history and use of the slogan "ham" but the
term previously used here was "Hammies." No where in those two links
do you see that term used - probably for good reason.

The 'good reason' may be that the OP doesn't seem to have a very good
grasp of the English language -- and sometimes he gets a little, shall
we say, creative; "raw" Amtor, "hammies" and a perpetual
misunderstanding of "to" vs. "too".

You are just an idiot. Your posting are proof of that. The government
should pull your license for your demonstrated ignorance.

While Rod, AC6V puts a lot of work into his Web site,

This should be past tense, as AC6V has gone to the Big Hamfest
In the Sky. (I believe that a relative is currently maintaining the web
site).

I would not worry about this as you will be going the other way when you
die.

I wouldn't take it as absolute gospel on every little detail.

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

True...because although there are -many- theories as to the origin of
the term 'ham', nothing has been proven to be definitive.

- I have empirical evidence that you are an idiot,
- which seems pretty definitive.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

PONG : Telamon - I Have Empirical Evidence That You Are An Idiot,
Which Seems Pretty Definitive.

teli - what you post says a lot about you ~ RHF
SNIP

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard
like you.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard
like you.

If you aren't a retard like him, are you a retard like this guy?


Steve Lare's LATEST:
===============
Hey, Chink Boy, I got a real Rolex, still ticking after 33 years.. shove
it up your slant eyed ass.
===============



Why do you like and approve of that attitude? You attack RHF for his
antenna posts, yet racist crap is just fine with you. Wake up.




mike



And how is our news group retard doing this fine evening?

In article xGGSj.6$KB3.5@edtnps91, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard
like you.

If you aren't a retard like him, are you a retard like this guy?

No, I'm a program listener and DxAce is a DX'er.

Steve Lare's LATEST:
===============
Hey, Chink Boy, I got a real Rolex, still ticking after 33 years.. shove
it up your slant eyed ass.
===============

My issue is not a racial one. My issue is about a disruptive asshole.

Why do you like and approve of that attitude? You attack RHF for his
antenna posts, yet racist crap is just fine with you. Wake up.

1. Because the news group retard posts incorrect information.

2. Because even after I correct the news group retard he still continues
to repost the same incorrect information.

3. Because the news group retard can not defend his incorrect
information.

4. The information news group retard posts that is good is other peoples
work, which sometimes I and others have some problems with and because
the news group retard provides links to it those people (the authors)
are not posting here to defend their information on their web pages.
Generally that is a discussion ender.

5. In the rare event that news group retard actually tries to post
technical information in his own words the news group retard generally
get the ideas of the original author wrong.

6. The news group retard posts are nearly indecipherable as a
consequence of his unique predilections. Any post the news group retard
generates factually correct or not looks like a retard wrote it.

7. The news group retard posts crap (incorrect information) in nearly
any antenna or radio related thread. Another discussion ender occurs
should people in that thread respond to him causing thread along with
his posts to be a confusing mishmash.

8. The news group retard is an asshole.

If you want more reasons let me know.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

If you want more reasons let me know.


Do you approve of the racial slurs made by Steve Lare?





mike

In article ABTSj.113$Yp.20@edtnps92, m II wrote:

Telamon wrote:

If you want more reasons let me know.


Do you approve of the racial slurs made by Steve Lare?

What do you think?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article
,
RHF wrote:

PONG : Telamon - I Have Empirical Evidence That You Are An Idiot,
Which Seems Pretty Definitive.

teli - what you post says a lot about you ~ RHF

SNIP

Yeah, I post what I know about, I don't BS people, and I'm not a retard...

Then why are you posting to alt.idiots?