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Non coms can have "commercials"



Sorry that was a typo....should've been "can't" have commercials.

(One typo can change the whole meaning of a sentence....)


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Radio Ron wrote:


And you don't think using words like 'moron' and 'retard' don't drive
people off?


I'm a retard and I'm still here.


There ya go....the retards stay...and the smart people leave.

That's the point.




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Non-Comm's are forbidden from having commercials...that's why they
have
underwriter announcements.

And reality is that there is no difference.

Check with a lawyer....there is.


Sorry bud, a private corporation pays and gets mentioned as supporting
the program. You think that's done for altruistic reasons?


Absolutely not....

But it's like someone getting their name listed as a donor at a museum.

But it's more a question of what you call it. Semantics.

As Eduardo pointed out, there are things that can make a difference as
defined by law.


Non coms can have "commercials" but there are restrictions on them, such
as no "call for action" and no price-item type ads. However, a commercial
can describe the merits of a business or product. An example would be
Mercedes can describe the design and careful attention to detail and
safety and the power of its engines, but not the $399 a month lease terms
for well qualified customers. It's an ad, but with restrictions.... very
significant restrictions.

As was said, check with a lawyer... any communications attorney can tell
you the differences between ads on a commercial and non commercial
station.




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"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Mon,
19 May 2008 08:50:37 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Mon,
19 May 2008 06:02:44 -0700, dave wrote: Begin

Bart Bailey wrote:

I remember back when there actually were non-commercial stations.

http://www.pacifica.org/

KPFK unavailable in San Diego due to international jammer XLNC


Not true. KPFK is protected only to the extent of a conforming B contour,
which ends in deep Orange County. No LA FM is protected into San Diego
County. XHLNC is a legal operation.


Legal schmegal, it still is jamming KPFK


No, it is not. Class B "grandfathered" FMs are only protected to the
distance of the protected contour of a standard B with 50 kw at 500 feet,
not the grandfathered extra coverage which is not protected at all.

XHLNC does not have any overlap with the KPFK protected contour.

Second, XHLNC (there is no XLNC) is moving to another frequency.


They already have lit up 104.9, but continue to simulcast for the only
ostensible purpose of jamming. Why not kill the 90.7 signal?


They have not fully moved because of licencing issues with 104.9. 104,9 has
ammended its technical application, and will be a licensed station as
opposed to a permit based station... a signficant change of class in Mexico.
All of this is sitting at the SCT right now.

And they can not jam a signal that is not legally required to be protected
in their coverage area.

Ya know fracklestein, you just like to try and nitpick your way out of
the losing corner of an argument you painted yourself into.


The argument is simple: KPFK is protected ONLY to the extent of the
protected contour of a standard B of 50 kw at 500 feet HAAT. That contour
ends in Orange County. The XHLNC contour does not interfere with the
standard B protection requirements, and is thus neither a "jammer" or
"illegal." It is so legal that it was approved years ago by the Comisión
Mixta of US and Mexican authorities which governs the border zone; Mexico
has a right to use the spectrum, too.


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Bart Bailey -wrote-
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Dave -wrote-
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(One typo can change the whole meaning of a sentence....)



No, it can...




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"Radio Ron" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
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Radio Ron wrote:


And you don't think using words like 'moron' and 'retard' don't drive
people off?


I'm a retard and I'm still here.


There ya go....the retards stay...and the smart people leave.

That's the point.


PLONK

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Non-Comm's are forbidden from having commercials...that's why they
have
underwriter announcements.

And reality is that there is no difference.

Check with a lawyer....there is.


Sorry bud, a private corporation pays and gets mentioned as supporting
the program. You think that's done for altruistic reasons? If it was
their name and what they do or manufacture would not be mentioned. They
want to be thought well of so you will buy the product or service. This
is very transparent and if you don't see it I don't hold much hope for
you. I don't care about the legalese.


Non coms can have "commercials" but there are restrictions on them, such as
no "call for action" and no price-item type ads. However, a commercial can
describe the merits of a business or product. An example would be Mercedes
can describe the design and careful attention to detail and safety and the
power of its engines, but not the $399 a month lease terms for well
qualified customers. It's an ad, but with restrictions.... very significant
restrictions.

As was said, check with a lawyer... any communications attorney can tell you
the differences between ads on a commercial and non commercial station.


And as I already posted I don't care about the legalese. They pay their
money and get the exposure that's all that counts.

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In article PvhYj.2961$Yp.707@edtnps92, m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

They can tell a real Hispanic from a faux Hispanic such as yourself as well.



....yawnnnnnnn....


You need to get some rest. Go to bed.

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On May 18, 9:15*pm, "Radio Ron" wrote:
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* * * * * Five Star Snip * * * * *

Telamon -wrote-
- - - - Yeah. What RHF posted is baseless.


SNIP

That's all you need to know.

And how is our news group retard doing this fine evening?

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